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Post by jdskycaster on Jun 18, 2013 8:07:07 GMT -5
Sorry to pull a single sentence out like this, but the above doesn't fill me with joyful expectations of an imminent release. No signs of the XMC-1 ever coming out of it's Coma. "High expectations"? Sure sounds like it's not even known if 'Dirac Live' will even work on the XMC-1. Why can't they just release the XMC-1 without any RC software? Because RC software has reached a level where it is no longer a nice to have feature. I say this with regard to multi-channel HT use which is what the XMC-1 is directly targeted at. I think the decision to implement Dirac Live is the right one and hope the implementation of it in the XMC-1/RMC-1 platform goes smoothly. It will be worth any additional wait. Before this announcement I was ready to just replace my three year old Denon AVR with one of their latest iterations. It is still performing perfectly in my HT so I will now just continue to wait and see.
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Post by bootman on Jun 18, 2013 9:10:10 GMT -5
I have a question:
With DIRAC should we be able to actually set independant level and phase adjustments for each but EQ as a whole?
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Post by DYohn on Jun 18, 2013 9:21:24 GMT -5
Just like I said during all the hoopla preceding the UMC-1 release, if you can't or don't want to be patient and wait for the product then buy something else. Lots of choices out there. Then when the XMC-1 is ready and released you can make a decision about upgrading, or not. But all this crap about being tired of "delays" or fake outrage over development plans changing is annoying. Get a life, people, it's a new product, it takes longer than expected to develop (like almost ALL new products) and it will be ready for your credit cards when it's ready. Sheesh.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 9:31:14 GMT -5
>>Why can't they just release the XMC-1 without any RC software?<<
It isn't just software, there has to be a hardware support system. And they'd have to ensure that units in the field *could* be updated to Dirac at some time in the future. And ya can't do that unless you actually build one that incorporates it successfully and then strip it out to see if it still works properly. And they damn sure ain't there yet...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 9:32:56 GMT -5
"Get a life, people, it's a new product, it takes longer than expected to develop..."
David, pyramids were built more quickly than this prepro...<g>
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 18, 2013 9:58:03 GMT -5
...iOS / android app for remote control via ethernet / wireless as was talked about years ago. This is critical for other zone operations... Yes, but I'm referring to the ability to do direct upgrades in a "push" fashion, not the use of a remote app via iOS or Android devices. If this, too, was discussed earlier my apologies and consider the question withdrawn. If not, it would be nice to know about this feature. Two separate features, both important. I, like wizardofoz, feel IP control is essential for a product of this calibre and hope these capabilities are robust (I won't buy many - or any - more products without it). As for the software updates, they announced at EmoFest that it would be via a USB stick plugged into the rear, so hopefully no more threads on update failures due to wrong OS, USB cable, operation order, or the like.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 12:44:26 GMT -5
"As for the software updates, they announced at EmoFest that it would be via a USB stick plugged into the rear, so hopefully no more threads on update failures due to wrong OS, USB cable, operation order, or the like. "
It would be nice if Emo were to enable this functionality of the front panel. Lots of folks will have the processor shoved into a cabinet, making updates a PITA. Barring that, I reckon you could use something like Oppo *provides* with their BDP players, an extension device enabling you to leave it plugged into the rear USB port and providing easy accessibility for cabinet-installed processors...
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Post by emovac on Jun 18, 2013 17:14:28 GMT -5
"Get a life, people, it's a new product, it takes longer than expected to develop..." David, pyramids were built more quickly than this prepro...<g> -RW- LOL
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 18, 2013 20:49:24 GMT -5
David, pyramids were built more quickly than this prepro...<g> -RW- Not actually true, the Great Pyramid of Giza (The Pyramid of Khufu) took ~20 years (according to Miroslav Verner). Plus of course they used 200,000 men in the build process (also according to Miroslav Verner). I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been 20 years since the XMC-1 was announced. Also I'm pretty sure that Emotiva doesn't have 200,000 men working on the XMC-1. Cheers Gary
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Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2013 21:14:05 GMT -5
Sorry to pull a single sentence out like this, but the above doesn't fill me with joyful expectations of an imminent release. No signs of the XMC-1 ever coming out of it's Coma. "High expectations"? Sure sounds like it's not even known if 'Dirac Live' will even work on the XMC-1. Why can't they just release the XMC-1 without any RC software? I'm just speculating, but perhaps because some people purchase a processor based upon the RC software? The podcast said that DIRAC is ported and working. Perhaps not an imminent release, but I think that the real hurdles have all been cleared. The XMC-1 shipping with no RC or "half baked" RC (like a troublesome implementation of Tact) -- could easily have sunk the product. I'm not in a rush to buy a new processor, but I suspect that the delay due to changing to DIRAC (in part) is probably going to pay off.
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Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2013 21:19:59 GMT -5
More than you need to know about TacT.... When it became obvious that TacT was a non-starter, we went looking for an alternative. We found Dirac (I've heard Dirac and I think it's even better). We also have expectations of its being easier to integrate into our XMC-1. The XMC-1 is a perfect match for Dirac. I think that perhaps one of the most important parts about Dirac that I caught from the podcast was "aggressive development". That means that it's not only a good product now, but will remain actively developed. A well supported/developed RC that's supported on multiple Emo devices? That has tons of potential! In my mind, the worst thing that you could do with RC software is under-develop it (kind of seems like Audyssey has stagnated a little, now that I think of it). I've heard so very little about Tact, even after trying to dig up more about it. Being somewhat familiar with Dirac, I'm excited.
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 18, 2013 21:23:55 GMT -5
I just want to know what Lonnie was referring to when he mentioned "emotiva glass" and then got cut off by Big Dan.
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Post by emovac on Jun 18, 2013 21:33:18 GMT -5
Good info from Keith. After 4 years, I moved on a few months ago and bought something else, but I hope the XMC-1 product is a big success, and a solid foundation for the RMC-1.
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Post by junchoon on Jun 18, 2013 22:00:31 GMT -5
Keith, is DSD decoding still on?
Thanks, WPS
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 18, 2013 22:38:38 GMT -5
I just want to know what Lonnie was referring to when he mentioned "emotiva glass" and then got cut off by Big Dan. Lonnie was referring to Carver's "tube" gear when he mentioned "emotiva glass". He was about to release information on an upcoming tube product when Big Dan interrupted him.
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 18, 2013 22:59:42 GMT -5
Keith, is DSD decoding still on? Thanks, WPS The XMC-1 product page has been updated with the latest specs. "Full support for multichannel DSD" is among the additions. So, the answer to your question is a much welcomed "yes"...
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 18, 2013 23:02:19 GMT -5
I just want to know what Lonnie was referring to when he mentioned "emotiva glass" and then got cut off by Big Dan. Lonnie was referring to Carver's "tube" gear when he mentioned "emotiva glass". He was about to release information on an upcoming tube product when Big Dan interrupted him. I know that much...but I want to know what it is!
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 19, 2013 0:04:23 GMT -5
What happened to the phono input? And when will we see the alternative available. I don't believe that there was going to be a phono input. I believe that is what the xps-1 is for. It used to have a phono button on the front...and what is this phono and ground on that other image?
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 19, 2013 0:18:14 GMT -5
A Dirac 2 Channel processor loopable box would be sweet for the XSP-1.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 19, 2013 0:31:40 GMT -5
It would be nice if Emo were to enable this functionality of the front panel. Lots of folks will have the processor shoved into a cabinet, making updates a PITA. Barring that, I reckon you could use something like Oppo *provides* with their BDP players, an extension device enabling you to leave it plugged into the rear USB port and providing easy accessibility for cabinet-installed processors... -RW- It's the little things that mean a lot. Good point, if we can't have Ethernet updates we should at least be sparred from reaching around the back. The Oppo extension is a workaround, but a front panel USB would be nice. It used to have a phono button on the front...and what is this phono and ground on that other image? I think again right around EmoFest they discussed the problem with having the phono section and DACs in the same chassis. I think the XPS-1 external phono pre is a good solution as the quality will be higher, and only those who want it will pay.
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