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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 19, 2013 0:34:34 GMT -5
A Dirac 2 Channel processor loopable box would be sweet for the XSP-1. Good idea.
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Post by junchoon on Jun 19, 2013 0:44:29 GMT -5
Keith, is DSD decoding still on? Thanks, WPS The XMC-1 product page has been updated with the latest specs. "Full support for multichannel DSD" is among the additions. So, the answer to your question is a much welcomed "yes"... Thanks for the info. WPS
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Post by eirik84 on Jun 19, 2013 0:49:49 GMT -5
Dan mentioned that they had the ERC-3 at the Newport show, but didnt say anything more about it. Guess it soon will be up on the website since the ERC-2 is gone? Sure hope for some digital inputs on it
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Post by GreenKiwi on Jun 19, 2013 1:38:12 GMT -5
It used to have a phono button on the front...and what is this phono and ground on that other image? That's cool. Yeah, I think that somewhere along the lines they decided that it would be better to have it external so people who didn't want it didn't have to pay for it. And probably an improvement in sound quality as there would be less interference with low level analog signals.
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Post by deewan on Jun 19, 2013 8:11:45 GMT -5
It would be nice if Emo were to enable this functionality of the front panel. Lots of folks will have the processor shoved into a cabinet, making updates a PITA. Barring that, I reckon you could use something like Oppo *provides* with their BDP players, an extension device enabling you to leave it plugged into the rear USB port and providing easy accessibility for cabinet-installed processors... -RW- It's the little things that mean a lot. Good point, if we can't have Ethernet updates we should at least be sparred from reaching around the back. The Oppo extension is a workaround, but a front panel USB would be nice. While it might be a hassle to dig around to the back of the XMC-1 to plug in a USB stick, owners of the XMC-1 hopefully won't be doing updates as often as someone who owns a PC or Adobe product. Maybe a couple the first year and then one annually after that, if at all. I for one would rather not have a ugly USB jack on the front of my XMC-1.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 19, 2013 11:10:16 GMT -5
... owners of the XMC-1 hopefully won't be doing updates as often as someone who owns a PC or Adobe product. Maybe a couple the first year and then one annually after that, if at all. I for one would rather not have a ugly USB jack on the front of my XMC-1. No kidding, can't seem to turn a PC on without a greeting from Adobe. I would agree that there probably won't be many updates, though some good products have them regularly. If you have a team working on updates you can fix small problems quickly instead of queuing up a large number of fixes, but hopefully the XMC-1 won't have too many. The latest picture shows a front USB A connector and it doesn't look too bad, the back shows both A & B connectors so not sure if maybe the extension cable is already planned (I'm also not sure about the one under the Ethernet connector). If the front panel connector could do both updates and play music files that would be great, but then what's the B connector on the back for? Could be an extension cable there might be for updates.
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 19, 2013 11:11:03 GMT -5
Good point, if we can't have Ethernet updates we should at least be sparred from reaching around the back. The Oppo extension is a workaround, but a front panel USB would be nice. While it might be a hassle to dig around to the back of the XMC-1 to plug in a USB stick, owners of the XMC-1 hopefully won't be doing updates as often as someone who owns a PC or Adobe product. Maybe a couple the first year and then one annually after that, if at all. I for one would rather not have a ugly USB jack on the front of my XMC-1. Agreed. I'd rather have to give the XMC-1 a reach around (couldn't resist) to plug in a USB stick then have to pull it out of the rack, hook it up to a computer etc....
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Post by deewan on Jun 19, 2013 11:18:22 GMT -5
I guess I need to point out, the USB jack on the recent XMC-1 model isn't that bad. While I normally dislike most front panel inputs since I have personally never had the need for one, I understand the need and convenience of them being on the front. Surely isn't a deal breaker for me and the XMC-1 still looks very sharp!!!
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 19, 2013 12:08:05 GMT -5
Well as long as it doesnt grow rca inputs on the front ill be happy.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 20, 2013 0:48:53 GMT -5
I guess I missed it earlier but it lists both the Ethernet port and the USB-A for firmware updates, I'm thinking the Ethernet is a typo but is sure like it to be true.
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Post by cwt on Jun 20, 2013 5:18:11 GMT -5
The latest picture shows a front USB A connector and it doesn't look too bad, the back shows both A & B connectors so not sure if maybe the extension cable is already planned (I'm also not sure about the one under the Ethernet connector). If the front panel connector could do both updates and play music files that would be great, but then what's the B connector on the back for? Could be an extension cable there might be for updates. This is what seems logical to me audiohtit based on the plethora of usb ports ; the usb a port on the back is for flac etc and the front one for upgrades as has been mentioned in the past iirc ?. The usb b wouldn't surprise to be usb 3.0 for the high bitrate streaming . I am certainly speculating here based on my tvix 3ds2 media player which also has a usb b port that is hi bandwidth capable too [ it's for fast file transfers 4x quicker than usb2.0 i found ] Maybe we'll get a little rubber stopper for the front usb like my oppo to keep things neat
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Post by rocky500 on Jun 22, 2013 21:53:56 GMT -5
I think the XPS-1 external phono pre is a good solution as the quality will be higher, and only those who want it will pay. +1 .I already have a good external phono stage.
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Post by solidstate on Jun 23, 2013 14:05:55 GMT -5
iOS / android app for remote control via ethernet / wireless as was talked about years ago. This is critical for other zone operations. What happened to the phono input? And when will we see the alternative available. Dirac support for different setups like stereo and 5.1 modes, plus the ability to use it in other zones would be great too. Save options to a pc/mac for loading up different setups would be great too. Let hope the technical info for the HTTP control or what ever solution they use is public so people can integrate control into third party apps. I don't understand why anyone would want phono input and I think people are nuts to think vinyl even comes close to a digital transport in any regard what so ever.
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Post by solidstate on Jun 23, 2013 14:11:03 GMT -5
It would be nice if Emo were to enable this functionality of the front panel. Lots of folks will have the processor shoved into a cabinet, making updates a PITA. Barring that, I reckon you could use something like Oppo *provides* with their BDP players, an extension device enabling you to leave it plugged into the rear USB port and providing easy accessibility for cabinet-installed processors... -RW- It's the little things that mean a lot. Good point, if we can't have Ethernet updates we should at least be sparred from reaching around the back. The Oppo extension is a workaround, but a front panel USB would be nice. It used to have a phono button on the front...and what is this phono and ground on that other image? I think again right around EmoFest they discussed the problem with having the phono section and DACs in the same chassis. I think the XPS-1 external phono pre is a good solution as the quality will be higher, and only those who want it will pay. I'm glad it's gone and I personally think anyone in this day and age farting around with LPs outta get their head examined (or perhaps ears) or learn critical thinking and avoid snake oil/BS audio fables. Same goes for tube over solid-state in my opinion but hey... people have their notions and why not make a buck and give them what they want even if it's total BS. LOL There is also a concern regarding VFDs as they also create EMI/RFI. Hopefully the front panel is well shielded from the analog section.
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Post by solidstate on Jun 23, 2013 14:12:38 GMT -5
... owners of the XMC-1 hopefully won't be doing updates as often as someone who owns a PC or Adobe product. Maybe a couple the first year and then one annually after that, if at all. I for one would rather not have a ugly USB jack on the front of my XMC-1. No kidding, can't seem to turn a PC on without a greeting from Adobe. I would agree that there probably won't be many updates, though some good products have them regularly. If you have a team working on updates you can fix small problems quickly instead of queuing up a large number of fixes, but hopefully the XMC-1 won't have too many. The latest picture shows a front USB A connector and it doesn't look too bad, the back shows both A & B connectors so not sure if maybe the extension cable is already planned (I'm also not sure about the one under the Ethernet connector). If the front panel connector could do both updates and play music files that would be great, but then what's the B connector on the back for? Could be an extension cable there might be for updates. Stop using Adobe reader and download something like Foxit Viewer. Flash is a whole other ball of wax if you use mozilla or IE and as a general rule these days don't install Java unless you need it as it's a major infection vector and security hole.
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