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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 25, 2014 8:58:38 GMT -5
Hello Guys.... My long design phase as regards upgrading the speaker is finished ..... now it's the most delicate which is that of choosing audio system: what to match to the receiver. Here's what the choice brought forth every day between various thoughts and various modifications: Fronts: Focal Aria 926 (pair) Central: Focal Aria CC900 Surround: Focal Aria 906 (pair) Surround Back: Wharfedale WH20 (pair) Front Presence Speakers: Focal Aria 906 (pair) Presence speakers Rear: Focal Dome Sat (pair) Subwoofer: Svs PB1000 (double) Receiver: Yamaha RX A 3040 Player Bd / Dvd: Oppo BDP83 mod. Amplifiers:
My first question is this: the combination of the Yamaha RX 3040 A and amplifiers Emotional is perfect? My idea would be to leave amplify two subwoofers to the receiver and to use two amplifiers to amplify 7 channels and presence speakers. What do you say? And 'correct my idea? I had thought of combining the XPA-7 (to amplify the 7.1 system for which at the moment you can not make international shipping) but I do not know what to choose to amplify the presence speakers (Frontal and Rear) ..
Now it's up to you ... I await advice
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Post by novisnick on Nov 25, 2014 9:10:31 GMT -5
Hello Guys.... My long design phase as regards upgrading the speaker is finished ..... now it's the most delicate which is that of choosing audio system: what to match to the receiver. Here's what the choice brought forth every day between various thoughts and various modifications: Fronts: Focal Aria 926 (pair) Central: Focal Aria CC900 Surround: Focal Aria 906 (pair) Surround Back: Wharfedale WH20 (pair) Front Presence Speakers: Focal Aria 906 (pair) Presence speakers Rear: Focal Dome Sat (pair) Subwoofer: Svs PB1000 (double) Receiver: Yamaha RX A 3040 Player Bd / Dvd: Oppo BDP83 mod. Amplifiers:
My first question is this: the combination of the Yamaha RX 3040 A and amplifiers Emotional is perfect? My idea would be to leave amplify two subwoofers to the receiver and to use two amplifiers to amplify 7 channels and presence speakers. What do you say? And 'correct my idea? I had thought of combining the XPA-7 (to amplify the 7.1 system for which at the moment you can not make international shipping) but I do not know what to choose to amplify the presence speakers (Frontal and Rear) ..
Now it's up to you ... I await advice
Hello..... Lucas, welcome to the nuthouse lounge ! So glad your here. As far as your hights amplification, you don't need much. Check my sig, I'm running a Yamaha 3020, almost identical to your AVR,,,,but newer. I'm using a pair of Sherbourn 2/150. That's 75 wpc. The hights speakers don't require much power and these do the job well. or you could use the XPA-5 if the -7 dosnt ship to you. Then use a set of MONOBLOCKS up front for your L/R. Do you do a lot of 2 channel listening? If so , monos are great!! 8). IMHO QUICK NOTE; Sherbourn is / was the sister company of Emotiva, I think a U series 5 channel would do you fine for the hights speakers. Edit; Answer to your question, yes,,,,Yamaha and Emotiva match beautifully!!! Subs fed from the Yamaha will only recieve a signal, not power. The subs will need to be active. ( their own amps )
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 27, 2014 6:55:30 GMT -5
thanks for giving me novisnick responded ..... I was reflecting on some aspects that I want to share with you ... We start from the fact that my system will be exploited to 80% for the ht and 20% for listening to music. Multi-channel or 2 ch for music? It 's so marked the difference between the multi-channel and 2 ch? I would like to get the most for listening in ht and the maximum for listening music? Would it be possible or do I have to make sacrifices? What would be the right balance?
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Post by garbulky on Nov 27, 2014 11:19:36 GMT -5
It's not tremendously marked. But if you care about two channel you may want to get yourself an XSP-1 and a nice DAC. There are many to choose from
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 27, 2014 11:57:57 GMT -5
thanks for giving me garbulky responded ...xsp-1 as I understand it is a preamp .... I will have a receiver Yamaha RX in 3040 then tried another configuration and here's why the Hamlet question: better to have an amplifier for 3/5/7 channels to give a little 'breathing the tuner (even if it has 9 Yammy integrated amplifiers high quality is always a receiver) or put a 2 ch? The two options tease me a lot and I do not know what to choose and what (product) choose ... If I chose the option 3/5/7 channels should stay with the following recommendations: Front: poteza amplifier recommended 40 / 250W Central: power amplifier recommended 40 / 200W Surround: power amplifier recommended 40 / 120W Surround Back: power amplifier recommended 150W
If I chose instead the option 2 ch I was highly recommended an integrated amplifier with input "Main In", with unbalanced inputs, with bypass function of the volume control (or without volume control circuit) and a minimum power output 100W or more (6 to 8 ohm). I believe that on this there is no problem because the solution can be found
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Post by Canuck_fr on Nov 27, 2014 12:10:56 GMT -5
As step #1 I would let your Yamaha receiver amplify your presence speakers and add an XPA2 for the fronts (or 2 x XPA-1) and add an XPA-5 for the other channels.
As Garbulky recommends, if you add an XSP-1 in the mix, it has a Home Theater bypass loop, and can be connected in conjunction with your Yamaha receiver. This will allow for a much improved 2 channel listening when compared to your Yamaha receiver.
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 27, 2014 12:48:19 GMT -5
the rear outputs are not already pre-assigned ..but can be used to amplify other speakers? For INTED XPA-5 has the following assignments: CH5 FR CH4 RS CH3 C CH2 LS CH1 FL Using XPA-2 for the two fronts remain free these inputs sull'XPA-5 in this way I could feed the two surround back?
Another question: Xpa-2 according to the manual releases a power of 300w RMS per 8Ohm .. fronts Focal Aria 926 is recommended 250W. The 300W RMS are intended as max volume?
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Post by garbulky on Nov 27, 2014 12:52:53 GMT -5
As step #1 I would let your Yamaha receiver amplify your presence speakers and add an XPA2 for the fronts (or 2 x XPA-1) and add an XPA-5 for the other channels. As Garbulky recommends, if you add an XSP-1 in the mix, it has a Home Theater bypass loop, and can be connected in conjunction with your Yamaha receiver. This will allow for a much improved 2 channel listening when compared to your Yamaha receiver. Correct but it's mainly beneficial IF you also buy a good 2 channel DAC. The point of the XSP-1 is to provide a good strong pre-amp which allows you to add in the dac while keeping the signal paths separate. You are not running a dac through your avr. All the switching goes on in the pre-amp.
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Post by klinemj on Nov 27, 2014 14:37:57 GMT -5
Welcome! Since you say you are 80/20 HT/music, I would focus on amps for now. If you have unlimited funds, then I would by all means consider either the XSP-1 and DC-1 for your 2-channel OR...go with the XMC-1 for both multi-channel and 2-channel. It has excellent sound quality for both by all reports.
But, for amps...I would consider going with the XPA-5 for your workhorse channels and a UPA-700 for the rest.
Mark
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 27, 2014 14:43:15 GMT -5
If I read it correctly his system is 11-2. If so an XPA-7 would be a good choice for the main 7 leaving the "presence" channels to the Yammy internal amps. But if I remember rightly his model doesn't allow internal amplification of the rear "presence" channels. Maybe someone with more Yammy experience can confirm this.
Since the XPA-7 is too heavy for international shipment I'd suggest a pair of XPA-1L's and an XPA-5. Using 2 of the XPA-5 channels to drive the rear "presence" channels if the Yammy can't handle them internally. My experience has been that Focal Arias like a bit of Class A, so the XPA-1L's should give a lift in stereo sound.
Cheers Gary
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 28, 2014 16:24:23 GMT -5
Guys thank you for the advice they are giving me and for those who will give me in the future ... for now I'm looking at all the models that I have recommended and I'm reading in the various threads dedicated comments ..... this is definitely the first step to better understand what to do. I read widely differing views .. I think this is mainly due to the audio chain owned and the environment in which the sound is propagated .. I want to ask you this, but you have treated acoustically your area movie theater / home theater and music?
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Post by Canuck_fr on Nov 28, 2014 17:33:00 GMT -5
Room treatments and proper placement of speakers offer a great return on investment, probably better return than any Equipment you can buy. The second best return are the speakers themselves.
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Nov 29, 2014 4:44:07 GMT -5
as I said yesterday, I'm documenting read ... and if I do not have mistranslated there would be some problems in the response / playing some musical genres ... my 20% of music is divided between rock and blues (U2, Bon Jovi, Pink Floyd, Gary Moore (RIP), Joe Bonamassa to name a few) .....
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Dec 4, 2014 3:08:54 GMT -5
I am going to get or should I say we are coming (since I'm sharing with you the doubts, concerns and recommendations) to the choice of amplifier ... I read with great pleasure and with great interest all your consigli..Gary some time ago wrote: "" But if I remember rightly His model does not allow internal amplification of the rear "presence" channels. Maybe someone with blackberries Yammy experience can confirm this "." I wrote a Yamaha on having a plant 11.2 channels and its amplification and this is the summary of the response: Option 1: Exploit dell'RXA3040 channels for the front and add a final challenging for attendance rear Option 2: Use a high-quality end to the front and let the 3040 management of the other 9 channels (or 8 if the central we do fly from one end). Taking a look at the budget and calculating the various additional charges such as customs clearance fees, VAT and miscellaneous charges I just have to fall back on two amplifiers: XPA-2 or XPA-3
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Post by garbulky on Dec 4, 2014 17:32:29 GMT -5
You may be interested in a used sherbourn PA 7-350. It is an XPR-7 that is now only recently discontinued. An XPA7 would also work
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Post by lucasscott2872 on Dec 9, 2014 15:46:12 GMT -5
I do not know if it is the right section but I ask if the power cord ships in EU is replaced or it must be replaced as soon as the amplifier is delivered?
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Post by Gary Cook on Dec 9, 2014 21:11:23 GMT -5
I do not know if it is the right section but I ask if the power cord ships in EU is replaced or it must be replaced as soon as the amplifier is delivered? All of mine have arrived with a US power cord. I just swap the plug to Aussie style. Cheers Gary
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Post by lehighvalleyjeff on Dec 11, 2014 2:45:43 GMT -5
Room treatments and proper placement of speakers offer a great return on investment, probably better return than any Equipment you can buy. The second best return are the speakers themselves. ^ +1 Where and how you decide to place your speakers is more critical to the sound quality than most people realize. Honestly, the room will affect your sound quality as well as the proper / improper placement of the speakers. Here is a good link to get you started. noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/
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Post by yves on Dec 11, 2014 15:41:15 GMT -5
Room treatments and proper placement of speakers offer a great return on investment, probably better return than any Equipment you can buy. The second best return are the speakers themselves. ^ +1 Where and how you decide to place your speakers is more critical to the sound quality than most people realize. Honestly, the room will affect your sound quality as well as the proper / improper placement of the speakers. Here is a good link to get you started. noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/Here's another good link. realtraps.com/art_room-setup.htmEDIT – My speaker placement is similar to Figure 2 in that article, but because my surround channel speakers—the Emotiva Pro Airmotiv 5 powered studio monitors—are rear-ported speakers, I have placed these farther from the side walls, i.e. closer to the main listening position. The UMC-200 'speaker setup' settings menu allows me to easily compensate for this decrease in surround channel speaker distance. Furthermore, I believe the optimal angle for the surround channel speakers is not 110–120 degrees measured from one surround channel speaker's axis to the other—as shown in Figure 2—but 110-120 degrees measured from each one of both surround channel speakers' axis to the center channel speaker's axis. ( However, the remark about placing the tweeter of each surround channel speaker at ear height does appear to be correct IMO.)
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