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Post by thomasd92 on Aug 15, 2015 10:39:21 GMT -5
I agree with Knucklehead about the Salk speakers, I have the HT3's and for two channel there is no need for a sub. They replaced a pair of HT2's that also sound great , that are now in my office. Another thing about the Salk speakers they are a fine piece of furniture. The finish on these speakers is excellent. I found mine used.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 15, 2015 10:45:49 GMT -5
I agree with Knucklehead about the Salk speakers, I have the HT3's and for two channel there is no need for a sub. They replaced a pair of HT2's that also sound great , that are now in my office. Another thing about the Salk speakers they are a fine piece of furniture. The finish on these speakers is excellent. I found mine used. What finish is yours? What do you think of the HT 3 and 2? How would you describe the sound? Got any pics?  |
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Post by pdaddy on Aug 15, 2015 12:02:07 GMT -5
You want big and bad - Tekton Pendragons. Ditto |
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 15, 2015 13:15:28 GMT -5
Hi guitarhero - Your question isn't a simple one, although on the surface, it seems to be. Your main "thing" as I understand you, is that you want speakers that play loudly and with good bass response without subwoofers. Before we go on, might I ask why you're opposed to subs? My 2.2 system is pretty darned good... But for the time being, let's take your request at face value - subwooferless passive or semi-passive speakers... The first thing I'd ask of you is "How big is your room?" If you live in a warehouse, a cathedral, or a similarly large space, then your answer is a no-brainer. You need highly-efficient horn loaded speakers that have deep bass response. Klipschorns come to mind immediately if you have corners available. If your listening room is "normally sized," (no dimension longer than about 25 feet), then dynamic or planar speakers come into the picture. The second question on the table, then, is "How loudly do you like to listen?" If the answer is "LOUDLY!" then you choose either highly sensitive speakers with an amplifier of about 100 watts per channel (real watts, not "receiver watts") or else "normal" speakers with an amplifier of 200 watts per channel on up. I've heard good results from both combos. One of my friends, Mr. novisnick - has some Paradigm speakers that go deeply, and which also go loudly thanks to his XPR-1 mono block amplifiers. Another of my acquaintances has a pair of Klipsch La Scala speakers with a 60 watt per channel receiver. This rig also sounds lovely. My third question would be "Is your room symmetrical from side to side?" If not, then any speaker that launches a back-wave is a bad choice. In this category are planar panel speakers (Martin Logan electrostatics, Magenapan planar magnetics, and bipolar speakers of many brands - including Definitive Technology's bi-polar or BP series speakers). The asymmetry of your room will virtually always make the right & left channels sound differently due to the different reflections from the rear wave. So for the time being, I'll assume that speakers with significant rear radiation are not an option. What would I recommend? Definitive Technology Mythos ST-L speakers have built-in powered subwoofers (no extra boxes). They go loudly & low plus they image very well. About $4K per pair Golden Ear Triton 2 towers also have built-in powered subwoofers (again, no extra boxes). They go loudly & low and they also image very well. About $3K per pair Atlantic Technology AT-1S-GLF tower speakers go very low & loudly for about $2K per pair Many here recommend Klipsch and Tekton - Although I've heard only the Klipsch offerings, they can also fit your needs. One other suggestion - Buy used! At the end of every semester in college towns, the student union bulletin boards & local Craigslists are FULL of speakers that students who are finishing their educations are eager to sell. If you have the time and inclination, you can also do well at garage sales & thrift shops. I've picked up Klipsch La Scala IIs for $1K per pair, Martin Logan electrostatic speakers for $500 per pair, and many other "studio monitor" style speakers of various ages for as low as $10 per pair. Happy Shopping! Boomzilla |
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 15, 2015 13:19:14 GMT -5
Does Klipsch still put out a quality speaker.I have been a little skeptical ever since they showed up at Best Buy. Martin Logan, McIntosh, Rotel, B&W, and many other quality brands are sold by Best Buy under their "Magnolia" kiosks. Being sold by BestBuy isn't the stigma inducer that you seem to think... |
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Post by vneal on Aug 15, 2015 14:41:45 GMT -5
If you can pick up a pair of Klipsch LaScalla for a grand do it. THEY PLAY LOUD. AND THEY ARE BIG. I miss mine from the early 80's--though on bass they are OK
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Post by guitarhero on Aug 20, 2015 15:44:13 GMT -5
I appreciate all the food for thought.I knew I would get good advice on this forum.I checked on the Pendragons and they are quite large,they just do not do it for me.I just do not like the way they look.I did manage to get it down to 2 used options.I am trying to decide between a pair of Paradigm Studio 100 V2 towers or a pair of Klipsch KLF-20 towers.I just can't decide which one is the bigger bad ass.
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 20, 2015 15:49:27 GMT -5
...I am trying to decide between a pair of Paradigm Studio 100 V2 towers or a pair of Klipsch KLF-20 towers.I just can't decide which one is the bigger bad ass. I've heard both. One of my friends locally has a pair of KLF-20s powered by a GIANT Marantz (?) AVR. They KICK. Mr. novisnick has a pair of Paradigm towers powered by a pair of XPR-1 mono block amplifiers. They are scary good! IMHO, you can't go wrong with either choice! Boomzilla |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 20, 2015 16:02:10 GMT -5
Definitive Technology Mythos ST-L speakers have built-in powered subwoofers (no extra boxes). They go loudly & low plus they image very well. About $4K per pair Golden Ear Triton 2 towers also have built-in powered subwoofers (again, no extra boxes). They go loudly & low and they also image very well. About $3K per pair +1. And Def Tech has other options like the 8000 series that do the same. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Aug 20, 2015 16:05:34 GMT -5
Dude!! These are bad ass!!  |
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 20, 2015 16:26:14 GMT -5
Arriving a little late to the party... Look for Phase Technologies PC series speakers. The bass response of the 9.x series is phenomenal. I've seen pairs go as little as $400. MSRP is closer to $4,000 but street price is closer to $2,000.
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