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Post by geebo on May 27, 2016 19:26:08 GMT -5
3 is half again as good as 2. If 2 is very good then 1 should be too, right? Stop that!! I feel like I'm in math class. Now let's talk about some prime numbers.... And factoring. And then later we can talk about something like the ever popular straw man argument! I'm going back to my beer now You didn't leave a beer for this did you?
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Post by knucklehead on May 27, 2016 19:30:05 GMT -5
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Wake me when the class d amps arrive please!
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Post by Hair Nick on May 27, 2016 19:35:15 GMT -5
This is a brand new spanking line of products for us and their warranty is 3 years. It isn't like we are reducing the XPAs to 3 years or anything. They are still at 5. The Egos have a 1 year warranty. Different product ranges and series can have different warranties. It's silly that THIS is the thing we are discussing...and not that we have made some new kick-ass products at VERY competitive prices that gives our old stuff wedgies and rubs their face in the dirt
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Post by Hair Nick on May 27, 2016 19:43:13 GMT -5
This is a brand new line of products and their warranty is 3 years. It isn't like we are reducing the XPAs to 3 years or anything. They are still at 5. This is silly that this is the thing we are discussing. So let's throw out the warranty discussion. Since it is silly. Why no capacitance specs? No xformer VA? No AP? At least for the 700. Mistakenly left out? The 80W ACD is surprising. More specs & photos are coming I promise. It took me all day..and I mean ALL day to get these 4 new pieces up and fine tuned! We aren't leaving you guys out to dry, we were also talking about the Gen3 AP reports today as well for y'all.
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Post by chicagorspec on May 27, 2016 20:18:37 GMT -5
This is a brand new spanking line of products for us and their warranty is 3 years. It isn't like we are reducing the XPAs to 3 years or anything. They are still at 5. The Egos have a 1 year warranty. Different product ranges and series can have different warranties. It's silly that THIS is the thing we are discussing...and not that we have made some new kick-ass products at VERY competitive prices that gives our old stuff wedgies and rubs their face in the dirt Regardless the industry, pumping up a new generation of products by saying the ones they just replaced, that many of your loyal customers still own, are comparatively crap is just plain dumb. You'd be better off to put a lid on the emotion, and if you can't defend your new products without tearing down your previous products, just stop talking.
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Post by klinemj on May 27, 2016 20:32:45 GMT -5
Dan LaufmanIf you have a stroke or two, please limit it to golf strokes. Go for a quad bogie on the front 9. No other strokes allowed. Are we clear on this? Mark
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Post by mdanderson on May 27, 2016 20:37:04 GMT -5
I have a Marantz SR5010 receiver with 100 wpc and the sound is very good, but I am wondering how the BasX-A500 will sound compared to it. I had an Emotiva xpa-5 until a tornado wiped out my audio stuff last December.
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Post by leonski on May 27, 2016 20:37:33 GMT -5
How's it sound? Forget the AP data, too, generally. Some measured data can show potential issues, but I'll bet FEW know what most of it means. And some data is simply MIA. I'd love to see 10KHz Square Wave response published. And that largish increase in distortion at 4 vs 8 ohms? That should tell me something too, but I'll have to mull that over. AS for "new kick-ass products at VERY competitive prices that gives our old stuff wedgies and rubs their face in the dirt In the meantime, ENJOY the amps.", I find that funny, too. Sorry if I drug warranty stuff to death. But it is important for purchasers to know that warranty coverage is NOT 'FREE'. The LINKED ARTICLE shows warranty costs for the AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY where the manufacturer 'sets aside' money for potential warraty claims. I see the stereo / hifi industry following a similar practice. That's a HUGE drive to improve quality and reliability. today's stuff must be much better than 3 or 4 decades ago. LOTS. www.warrantyweek.com/archive/ww20140717.html
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Post by Axis on May 27, 2016 20:42:41 GMT -5
The BasX sounds very good.
The Ultra sounded very good.
The Basx is an improvement on the Ultra.
Get it ! Got it ! Good !
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Post by Axis on May 27, 2016 21:22:44 GMT -5
It sounds like all their other solid state amps, I'm sure. Amirite? Your right ! And that is good Jim.
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Post by hemster on May 27, 2016 21:43:24 GMT -5
I have a Marantz SR5010 receiver with 100 wpc and the sound is very good, but I am wondering how the BasX-A500 will sound compared to it. I had an Emotiva xpa-5 until a tornado wiped out my audio stuff last December. Sorry to hear about the tornado. Mother Nature can be punishing that way. IMHO your 'digms will thank you for the BasXA-500.
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Post by rbk123 on May 27, 2016 22:00:36 GMT -5
It's silly that THIS is the thing we are discussing...and not that we have made some new kick-ass products at VERY competitive prices that gives our old stuff wedgies and rubs their face in the dirt Um, what else can we talk about other than things we know like specs, cost, and warranty? How would we know these are kick-ass? How would we know BasX rubs your competitors faces in the dirt? None of us know the design, none of us have seen the build quality, and none of us have actually heard them. Good grief, the expectations of manufacturers that we aren't worshiping every single new item or change in benefit. I'm going to log off before I have a stroke.
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Post by Hair Nick on May 27, 2016 22:24:53 GMT -5
It's silly that THIS is the thing we are discussing...and not that we have made some new kick-ass products at VERY competitive prices that gives our old stuff wedgies and rubs their face in the dirt Um, what else can we talk about other than things we know like specs, cost, and warranty? How would we know these are kick-ass? How would we know BasX rubs your competitors faces in the dirt? None of us know the design, none of us have seen the build quality, and none of us have actually heard them. Good grief, the expectations of manufacturers that we aren't worshiping every single new item or change in benefit. I'm going to log off before I have a stroke. For those that know our products, you can expect us to deliver on the high build quality, tight and refined designs, and excellent sound quality that all of our products have always had. As for hearing these new pieces, you will have to place an order or reserve one so you can hear for yourself. That is another reason why we offer a no hassle 30 day in home trial. We have high expectations in all our new products we design because of the time and effort we put into them. We constantly push ourselves to deliver the best product we can to you at very reasonable prices so you get real value for your money. I would like to apologize if some of us show too much emotion when it comes to our gear but these products we create are pretty special to us and we are very proud when we launch them on the site. I hope everyone has a safe and fun holiday weekend and that people get to hear these products, as well as our other lines coming out this year. I will have more stuff for you guys next week! And for those who are military, from myself and all of us at Emotiva, Thank you for your service to our country. You men and women are the real heroes.
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Post by garbulky on May 27, 2016 22:48:21 GMT -5
But isn't it the UPA-200 and 500 though? I always assumed that. Bas-X A-300 UPA-200 So what are the differences?
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Post by knucklehead on May 27, 2016 22:59:26 GMT -5
But isn't it the UPA-200 and 500 though? I always assumed that. Bas-X A-300 UPA-200 So what are the differences? Differences? One is a UPA-200 and the other is a BassX-A-300? I was thinking maybe Emotiva had cloned the UPA-2 but what the hey! Cloning the UPA-200 seems like a great idea. I've never owned a UPA-200 but have had several UPA-2 amps. And the UPA-200 is a decent amp. Why re-invent the wheel when you have so many 'wheel' designs already?
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Post by teaman on May 27, 2016 23:24:23 GMT -5
I am not really sure why anyone is getting worked up because forum goers point something out about the new products. The fact that every amp Emotiva sold to this point carried a five year warranty and seeing now that the new line offers a three year warranty, questions should be expected.
I think 95% of us that frequent the forums are fans of the company and what they offer and are not trying to be critical.
Before I knew a single thing about the what the new product lines offered I knew some things were going to change. Once you leave internet direct sales and move to the Emotiva partner brick and mortar stores which are obviously getting a cut there will have to be compromises. I was just surprised the changes came in the way of lesser warranty periods. I am perfectly happy with my gear and I am not looking to argue with people but I think it is fair game when we ask why the warranty policy has changed.
Tim
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Post by lehighvalleyjeff on May 27, 2016 23:38:10 GMT -5
I am not really sure why people get so worked up when somebody points something out about the new products. The fact that every amp Emotiva has sold to this point carried a five year warranty and now the new line offers a three year warranty, questions should be expected. I think 95% of us that frequent the forums are fans of the company and what they offer. Before I knew a single thing about the new product lines I expected something to change. Once you leave internet direct sales and the Emotiva partner brick and mortar stores are getting a cut there have to be compromises. I am perfectly happy with my gear and I am not looking to argue with people but I think it is fair game that we ask why a warranty policy has changed. [br I agree. At the end of the day for the full msrp of $299 for preamp and $399 for stereo amp I think 3 years is generous. Now you can go see the units on display and listen to them in a store before buying them. That's a big advantage and dollar for dollar I think they represent a respectable way for an enthusiast to put together a seperates system and enter the world of high fidelity. On the other hand I've never heard these units but the proof is in the pudding. If they sound reasonably good for seperates at their price point then they will sell without anyone having to hype them up. I'm happy that they are being built in the USA. I'd take a shorter warranty knowing QC was being done in house and not in China. The QC from the overseas manufacturing was beginning to concern me. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 28, 2016 0:41:52 GMT -5
... I'm happy that they are being built in the USA. I'd take a shorter warranty knowing QC was being done in house and not in China. The QC from the overseas manufacturing was beginning to concern me. ... I mentioned this in another thread and was told "it doesn't matter", but since you mention it, it does mater to have the facts straight. I'm reasonably sure the BasX line is not Made in the USA, only designed here, Made in China. I have had no problems with the previous MIC products so it doesn't bother me for this line. Just setting the record straight (see the first post in this thread).
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Post by lehighvalleyjeff on May 28, 2016 0:45:05 GMT -5
I stand corrected on the made in USA part. My apologies.
For the record I haven't had any China units go bad personally either but I think that having QC in house rather than overseas is an advantage.
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Post by yeeeha17 on May 28, 2016 1:21:53 GMT -5
The only thing I see that is made in the USA is the XMC-1 and I might be wrong
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