XMC-1L anyone???

[Dan Laufman]

OK, OK, OK... let the fun start!

Hypothetical question...

A new 2RU processor based on the XMC-1/Emersa platform. Let's call it the XMC-1L

TI based HD decoding
Linux OS
Full parametric EQ's on all channels
REW compatible
1 pr. balanced Inputs
2 pr. RCA in
1 coax digital input
1 Toslink optical input
Internal Bluetooth
USB DAC 24/192
AM/FM tuner
5x1 HDMI 2.0 w/ 1 HDCP 2.2 input
7.1 XLR balanced outputs
7.1 RCA outputs
Network connectivity and control
USB firmware update
OLED display
Aluminum remote control
Made in USA

Full Dirac live upgrade with measuring mic,. $199.00

You get the idea... BUT, this platform will NEVER be upgradeable to Atmos/DTSX. However, the HDMI subsystem is modular and will evolve along side the XMC-1 and other AVP solutions we are designing.

Anticipated retail price - $999.00

What we want to know is this, are there any takers out there??

The platform is already designed, we want to know of this is a product that interests you to the point of actually buying it before we invest in building it.

Serious, on topic replies only please. Don't start asking for this to be what it is not... we have other solutions for the dreamers out there coming soon!!

Thank you,
Big Dan

[qdtjni]

Since I already have an XMC-1, no thanks.

[monkumonku]

If I didn't already own the XMC-1, I would most definitely be interested.

[geebo]

FWIW, if I didn't already have an XMC-1 I might just buy one of these instead of an XMC. But I just LOVE my XMC.

[brubacca]

Dan,

I would absolutely buy this product (although I thought that was the point of the Emersa Processor).

I just don't ever see myself spending as much as the XMC-1 costs for a HT component.

[rip]

I will buy one, been waiting on the Emersa to come out! 

[melm]

Attractive, it seems too similar to Emersa. How about DSD decoding?

Mel

[garbulky]

When you say 7.1 balanced outputs, do you mean they are all fully balanced? Also how many DACs?

[mshump]

I think this is a great idea for a lower cost pre/pro with DIRAC. The XMC-1 is a fantastic product but the price point is high for some people that would like to get into the higher end on a budget.

Dan, you guys are on a heck of a roll this year !!

Mark

[creimes]

Sounds interesting, but I'm still waiting for the EMP-1 that I thought was supposed to hit the cart earlier this year for $899 with Dirac just no XLR outs though, so are you saying the XMC-1L will have Dirac and XLR outs but for $1199

And where did the XPA-1L go, nothing new planned to go alongside the maybe XMC-1L

Chad

[mgbpuff]

Waste of time! Prepros are bought by people who want it all, everyone else buys receivers. The main difference from the Emersa offering seems to be XLR out which most people on this forum seem to belittle and Dirac room eq., which is an upscale feature. Chuck this and put all your efforts into a sota RMC-1 with every up to date feature imaginable.

[wrinklemash]

Dan,

I voted MAYBE mainly because the proposed is not the product I am looking for, it lacks some of the features I want, and gives output connectivity features I don't want or need. This said, I would be tempted as it does meet most of my needs, especially if something that does meet my needs never materializes. What is proposed is an "OK, I settle for this" compromise product. This said, if you bring this product to market in a hurry, in a big hurry, I think you would sell a bunch of them. I just may not be one of those buying.

Six thoughts as to why:

One, I do not understand the full extent of what "network connectivity" means - I am assuming Wifi & Bluetooth. But if that also meant access to Spotify, Pandora and other streaming services, you would have my attention as those would be very influential to me. I would likely buy one of these for my living room then. If there is an outboard solution that gets me this and internet radio in combination with this, I am still interested.

Two, there is no mention of Zone control. Which is not a killer for me, but I am looking for a piece with at least one zone and the reasons are associated greatly with thought one above.

Three, if this is essentially an EMP-1 in a X-series style chassis with the addition of 7.1 balanced outputs (and those outputs are not truly balanced), it does not excite me at all. What's the point? If the outputs are truly balanced, and an affordable balanced amplifier is not offered with them, again what's the point? Rationale: I appreciate the styling matching the legacy products, but IMO - balanced connections that are not truly balanced do little other than help those making long runs or use professional amps, and thus amount to wanna-be audiophile jewelry. And even if those outputs are truly balanced, what affordable and attainable balanced amplifier is going to accompany the XMC-1L? Will there be other options other than the balanced double wide modules to take advantage of a fully balanced design? If the double wide models are the only balanced amps modules offered and they are considerably more $$$ than the current modules, it is going to be very, very expensive to take advantage of any truly balanced outputs, on any present and future balanced multi-channel Emotiva Pre/Pro. If on the other hand a more affordable balanced mini-block amp module option were offered, perhaps based on the forthcoming stereo modules, that might be extremely interesting and would make the proposed quite appealing. For practical reasons, this is iffy to me.

Four: Still, for the price of $999 and $1198 with full Dirac is tempting none-the-less, and it would serve most of my needs.

Five, I really want an Atmos & DTS:X option, if only in a 5.1.2 implementation. Do I truly need it? Probably not. But the fact that it does not have that capability at release, and then will NEVER have it is very disappointing (and prabably uncompetitive too).

Six, I still have an upgrade card and though the RMC-1 is overkill for me, I would use it on an RMC-1. I'd rather save my pennies for it than purchase a $1000 processor that does not fulfill all my wants and needs.

-Wrinklemash

[leefdalucky]

Hmm, pretty close to the EMP-1. But it's a 2U unit with balanced in's.

I truly wish the Emersa line was coming out with regular Emotiva cosmetics (still beautiful IMO).
You guys can have 1U units (pres and amps) and still have that nice brushed finish.
Personally, I think Emotiva is spreading itself out too thin, by offering a series with a new face plate.
If the EMP-1 platform had XMC style of cosmetics, a 1U unit AND still had DIRAC, I believe we wouldn't even be having this 1L conversation.
I'm giving it a maybe. If this sees light of day before EMP, I may jump at it.
or the mc-700. hmmmm.

good luck, Dan.

[Chuck Elliot]

Great replacement for the UMC-200. I have a friend with this need!

I might even think of replacing my XSP-1 and XDA-2 in my 2 channel system, but I'd really prefer 7.2.

[Topend]

I will buy it. I planned on buying the XMC-1 but by the time it came to market it was priced beyond my reach.

I still have my 40% upgrade card.

Thanks,
Dave.

[novisnick]

Sept 22, 2016 10:33:54 GMT -5 creimes said:

Sounds interesting, but I'm still waiting for the EMP-1 that I thought was supposed to hit the cart earlier this year for $899 with Dirac just no XLR outs though, so are you saying the XMC-1L will have Dirac and XLR outs but for $1199

And where did the XPA-1L go, nothing new planned to go alongside the maybe XMC-1L

Chad

The XPA-1L's are right hear with my Yamaha 3020 Chad!    


Also, I think a unit like this will pull in most of the remaining 40 %  off cards.

[saru]

I voted "yes", though not because I would personally buy this product -- I've got my XMC-1, so I'm all set -- but because I recognize it as the product that I likely would have bought had it been available when I was shopping for a pre-pro last year. It's an attractive feature set for the price.

[embra]

As I am still using the UMC-1, this seems to be a great upgrade in the right price range. The 2RU would fit better in my rack than the 1RU/Emersa while still having the DIRAC available.

[Bonzo]

Looks like the perfect unit for many. But I voted no.

At first glance I would only switch one priority, and from my history I bet you already know where I'm going.

I would totally ditch the XLR input and outputs in favor of more RCA analog inputs, at least 1 RCA analog record loop output, and the same for digital inputs with at least 1 output.

XLR is simply something most people just don't need, it's more a luxury. Someone should make a poll here to see who uses what. Wait, I'll do it......

[The History Kid]

You've got my attention, Big Dan...