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Post by werty on Oct 25, 2018 13:52:00 GMT -5
I currently have a Yamaha a870. I'm going to be purchasing an xpa2. My question is would a pt100 be better than the Yamaha as far as pre amp? Thanks in advance.
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 15:56:44 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by werty on Oct 25, 2018 16:04:06 GMT -5
Thanks
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Post by emofrmcgy on Oct 25, 2018 16:07:43 GMT -5
How can you be so sure ?? |
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 16:31:33 GMT -5
How can you be so sure ?? I know everything about audio  |
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Post by werty on Oct 25, 2018 16:42:18 GMT -5
Funny. I was going to wait and get the xpa dr2. Though I think it might be over kill for my Kef r 300's. Then realized I can get the pt100 and an xpa-2 now. I'm impatient I guess. Plus I don't ever watch movies or tv. So I have this avr for 2 channel audio only. Seems like a waste to me. I'm hoping to sell it. Thanks for any advice.
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 17:27:26 GMT -5
On a more serious note, I owned a Yamaha AVR in the past and I have also owned a TA-100, though not at the same time but I thought the TA-100 sounded very very good given I got it for $300 shipped, the PT is the same preamp section without the amps which I'm sure you are aware of. What sources will you be using, and have you considered those new PA-1 mono amps ? What about two of those PA-1 amps and a used XSP-1  |
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Post by brubacca on Oct 25, 2018 17:34:05 GMT -5
We can not know for sure if you will prefer the PT100 over the Yamaha for two channel.
There is a very high chance that this will be the case (very high). Did I say very high chance?
It should and most likely will be markedly better, but thats why they have the return policy.
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Post by werty on Oct 25, 2018 17:36:50 GMT -5
I looked into those ask well. Not having a 12v trigger really bothers me. I like one power button. The little things I guess. Lol
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Post by brubacca on Oct 25, 2018 19:29:23 GMT -5
Its not little things. It may sound crazy, but if you want a trigger than get an amp with triggers.
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 19:39:28 GMT -5
I looked into those ask well. Not having a 12v trigger really bothers me. I like one power button. The little things I guess. Lol The PA-1 amps have auto on I believe From the product page: AC power can be switched manually, allowing the Stealth PA-1 to be controlled by an ordinary switched power strip. The PA-1 can also be configured to turn on automatically when it detects an incoming audio signal. |
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Post by dsonyay on Oct 25, 2018 19:49:43 GMT -5
I currently have a Yamaha a870. I'm going to be purchasing an xpa2. My question is would a pt100 be better than the Yamaha as far as pre amp? Thanks in advance. I have the XPA2 PT100 combo. They go well together.. very well. As for the Yamaha, I have no idea how it would work as a PreAmp.. you can first buy the amp, pair it with the Yamaha, and if you're happy with the combo, stop there and enjoy. Maybe later you can buy the pt100 when the Yamaha bites the bullet. Originally, I bought the PT100 to pair with an older Kenwood Amp... |
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Post by werty on Oct 25, 2018 20:12:58 GMT -5
I currently have a Yamaha a870. I'm going to be purchasing an xpa2. My question is would a pt100 be better than the Yamaha as far as pre amp? Thanks in advance. I have the XPA2 PT100 combo. They go well together.. very well. As for the Yamaha, I have no idea how it would work as a PreAmp.. you can first buy the amp, pair it with the Yamaha, and if you're happy with the combo, stop there and enjoy. Maybe later you can buy the pt100 when the Yamaha bites the bullet. Originally, I bought the PT100 to pair with an older Kenwood Amp... That's a fantastic idea. Thank you! |
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Post by garbulky on Oct 25, 2018 20:14:34 GMT -5
I currently have a Yamaha a870. I'm going to be purchasing an xpa2. My question is would a pt100 be better than the Yamaha as far as pre amp? Thanks in advance. I reccomend the XPA-2 gen 2 - excellent amp. |
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Post by dsonyay on Oct 25, 2018 20:32:21 GMT -5
I wanted to add, I kept putting off the pt100 , then Emo had a scratch and dent sale, so I went for it.
Only ding I give the pt100 is the awkward menu system.. but once you play around with it a while , it's not difficult.
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Post by cgolf on Oct 26, 2018 13:07:34 GMT -5
I currently have a Yamaha a870. I'm going to be purchasing an xpa2. My question is would a pt100 be better than the Yamaha as far as pre amp? Thanks in advance. Good question. I have a Yamaha A860 that I only use as a processor for movies and pre-amp for 2 channel. Have thought about either the MC-700 or PT-100 or both or neither. Same question. Would it make a difference. I think it would but no way to tell without doing it!!  |
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 26, 2018 16:06:06 GMT -5
Funny. I was going to wait and get the xpa dr2. Though I think it might be over kill for my Kef r 300's. I'm for going slow and getting the best that you can get. Therefore, I vote for buying the DR2s. Enjoy them with your Yamaha, and then upgrading again later after more consideration. |
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Post by knucklehead on Oct 26, 2018 19:58:48 GMT -5
Is the A870 clipping? If not then an external amp might end up being more eye candy than an actual jump in audio quality. The A870 is a decent AVR. IIRC the 7810 is the same as the A870 & the RX-V781.
IMO the audio quality difference between using an AVR's preamp side driving an external amp vs separates is very small unless you have low efficiency low impedance speakers. My 7810 sounds very good driving the Salk Surround 1 monitor speakers I have. I had it cranked up earlier today playing some Moody Blues. Great sounding combo. The Salk monitors are quite revealing, and I'm not hearing anything that would cause me any concern.
Once in a while I'll get out an old Adcom 535 amp with 60wpc, just to remind me of how little power one really needs. Unless you like to blast the volume to 7 or 8. To answer your question on the external amp, there probably won't be much difference, maybe none. And AVR preamps are very good these days.
I'm considering selling my Yamaha A-S1000 integrated and putting the Adcom in it's place and use the A2070 in preamp mode (2 channel). Using the 2070 to drive the Song Towers made little audible difference to me. Even driving the big Polk towers doesn't faze it, to a point, which would be a louder level than I ever listen. It has the very good Sabre DACs, the same ones that Oppo self-screwed themselves with a bad implementation in their 205 BR player. Give the AVR a chance. It may surprise you. And AVR's are much more flexible than any preamp/amp setup. Bass management for one.
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Post by vcautokid on Oct 26, 2018 20:05:49 GMT -5
Another vote for the PT100, and I "DON'T" know everything about audio. Why? Remember the Yamaha has a budget for all the stages in place. The PT-100 IS only a Preamplifier. So the money goes all into that stage. Also no crosstalk with other stages aiding in transparency. So it comes to the separates are better because of isolation. It does count.
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Post by cgolf on Oct 27, 2018 17:48:49 GMT -5
Is the A870 clipping? If not then an external amp might end up being more eye candy than an actual jump in audio quality. The A870 is a decent AVR. IIRC the 7810 is the same as the A870 & the RX-V781. IMO the audio quality difference between using an AVR's preamp side driving an external amp vs separates is very small unless you have low efficiency low impedance speakers. My 7810 sounds very good driving the Salk Surround 1 monitor speakers I have. I had it cranked up earlier today playing some Moody Blues. Great sounding combo. The Salk monitors are quite revealing, and I'm not hearing anything that would cause me any concern. Once in a while I'll get out an old Adcom 535 amp with 60wpc, just to remind me of how little power one really needs. Unless you like to blast the volume to 7 or 8. To answer your question on the external amp, there probably won't be much difference, maybe none. And AVR preamps are very good these days. I'm considering selling my Yamaha A-S1000 integrated and putting the Adcom in it's place and use the A2070 in preamp mode (2 channel). Using the 2070 to drive the Song Towers made little audible difference to me. Even driving the big Polk towers doesn't faze it, to a point, which would be a louder level than I ever listen. It has the very good Sabre DACs, the same ones that Oppo self-screwed themselves with a bad implementation in their 205 BR player. Give the AVR a chance. It may surprise you. And AVR's are much more flexible than any preamp/amp setup. Bass management for one. I agree with your response on external amps. For me, I am more interested in the difference in the processing platform. Say, between the Yamaha A860 and the PT100 or MC700. |
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