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Post by hsamwel on Aug 18, 2019 15:36:16 GMT -5
You mean speaker setup, not bass management? Other than single center back and the auro3d speakers (HLS, HRS, HC AND TOP) I don’t see RMC lacking anything really? The auro3d speakers are meaningless to have unless you support the format. That leaves us with center back speaker. Seldom used these days. It was popular for a while when DTS created the DTS ES matrix/discrete format. The bluray/UHD discs with DTS-HD/X and Dolby TrueHD/Atmos all use dual surround back speakers. Maybe it’s also used in auro3d? But I see this list lacks Height L/R rear unless Height L/R surround acts double? Which would be bad for those using both in a Atmos/Auro3D dual setup. I guess you want a Dual stereo sub setting to be used in 2ch mode? This should be easy for Emotiva to add. Connect each sub to left/right and use them as dual mono in movies and left/right stereo with crossover from music (left & right speaker). Separate settings for 2 ch modes in RMC, maybe even connected to each unique input setting. Stereo subs in a 2.2 configuration isn't supported? Is it road-mapped? I'm hoping the RMC's bass management gets another overhaul because 11.5.8 isn't really 11.5.8 without flexible bass management. Here is a snippet from Lyngdorf's MP-50 (supports 7.5.4/5.5.6/9.5.2) manual. Lyngdorf's bass management flexibility pales in comparison to StormAudio. Step up again into a Trinnov I have yet to encounter a scenario which cannot be implemented. I have stereo subs (folded horns) in the front for bass management (125Hz xover) and separate subs for LFE. I could always use an external DSP [w/Front L&R set Large] to accomplish but such a workaround (extra DA/AD conversions) is far from ideal.
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Post by hsamwel on Aug 18, 2019 15:43:42 GMT -5
Klinemj & AudioHTIT
No, my TV is always in standby when using the projector. I meant disconnected physically from the HDMI output.
My previous AVR, Pioneer SC-LX801 was set to do nothing, in other words full passthrough.
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Post by hsamwel on Aug 19, 2019 3:34:12 GMT -5
I did go through my dish receiver box settings again to find anything that could be wrong.
I found thar CEC was on (off on all other of my devices), so I turned it off. I also found an option that has a ”fast startup” of some sort, it was on. I set it to slow startup, doing a full startup including checking for signal and doing a hdmi sync.
I have RMC set video on standby and remember last input. I started my TV and the dish receiver did a slow startup and now got a picture. Yesterday I got nothing during several tests. Although still no sound. I though maybe try changing input might help. I pressed INPUT 6 which is my Analog 1 streamer input, no hdmi. To my surprice the sound suddenly started on the TV, this with RMC still on standby.
How is this possible?
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Post by deewan on Aug 19, 2019 7:52:54 GMT -5
I did go through my dish receiver box settings again to find anything that could be wrong. I found thar CEC was on (off on all other of my devices), so I turned it off. I also found an option that has a ”fast startup” of some sort, it was on. I set it to slow startup, doing a full startup including checking for signal and doing a hdmi sync. I have RMC set video on standby and remember last input. I started my TV and the dish receiver did a slow startup and now got a picture. Yesterday I got nothing during several tests. Although still no sound. I though maybe try changing input might help. I pressed INPUT 6 which is my Analog 1 streamer input, no hdmi. To my surprice the sound suddenly started on the TV, this with RMC still on standby. How is this possible? The RMC passes both audio and video (using hdmi) when the "video on standby" is selected. I've found it's nice so if I need to quickly do anything involving AV, I can start my secondary monitor and the source device without having to power on the RMC. Edit: Opps, I just noticed you said you are using analog input. that is indeed strange. Maybe double check your internal input settings for AV connections on the RMC.
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Post by TDifEQ on Aug 19, 2019 8:38:31 GMT -5
The details themselves can be quite complicated..... To answer your questions... There is some latitude in terms of which combinations of layouts we choose to support. (The standard, as per the license, includes some mandatory requirements and some that are optional.) The current consumer version of Dolby Atmos does not support a center height speaker. (Technically we could develop our own proprietary upmixer to do so - but we have no plans to do so.)
Our implementation of the Dolby Atmos standard does not support a single surround or single rear surround. (I'm not certain whose limitation that is - but we have no plans to support it.) Dolby Atmos itself recognizes a single "subwoofer channel".... and this is how Dolby Atmos discs are encoded. (You will notice that ALL of Dolby's current recommended speaker layouts are "x.1.x".)
(And the RMC-1 currently follows the Dolby Atmos standard - which is why your choice of subs is "mono", "dual mono", and "triple mono".) Supporting stereo subs in bass management was done on the XMC-1 IN ADDITION TO what was supported by Dolby TrueHD. We do actually have plans in our roadmap to bring back stereo subwoofers in the RMC-1 at some point in the future (but I don't know when).
(Dolby Atmos itself does not currently support stereo subs - however there is no restriction on us if we prefer to do it ourselves.) The whole issue/question about "pinned channels" and the number of overhead channels supported by particular content is not actually an issue at all. The Dolby Atmos STANDARD supports both "bed channels" and "objects"... It is up to the producer of the disc which of these features they choose to use and how they choose to use them... (For example, the Dolby Atmos Authoring software allows me to create an object, then designate that it be delivered by a single specific speaker.) In general, Dolby Atmos is intended to offer the engineer who creates the content lots of control, and to then deliver that content THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO BE DELIVERED. (So, if Disney decided to use "pinned height channels", however they chose to do so, then apparently that's the way they intend for you to hear their product.)
Keith, your two quotes: “Instead, the current implementations support a relatively wide variety of specific speaker layouts and combinations of speaker locations.” and "You may put your speakers wherever you want - as long as you want them in spots that are listed among the locations recommended by Dolby." Would seem to indicated that there is some latitude in the assignment of channels. So, since I don't know the pin-outs of the Atmos decoder chip, my question is: Are you saying, specifically, that of the combination of input parameters available to, and, the pin-outs available from the Atmos decoder chip, that there is NOT the possibility to designate a rear center-channel, NOR the possibility to designate an overhead center-channel? Also, as every responder to my post has gotten hung-up on overhead center-channels and the lack of object-based sounds being embedded in consumer disc formats, my other question about the front left and right width channels being re-purposed as left and right subwoofer channels has still not been addressed!
joehzar FYI. Found this @keithl post from another thread stating RMC-1 does not support single rear speaker. Also talks about RMC-1 subwoofer implementation.
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Post by KeithL on Aug 19, 2019 8:53:17 GMT -5
The RMC-1 responds to the type of audio it is receiving at any given time (it doesn't specifically know if you've pressed Stop or Pause). When you do either, the audio coming from the surface of the disc, or from the video stream you've been watching, obviously stops playing... At that point it's up to your source device what sort of "audio carrier" it continues to send out while "idling". (So, if your disc player, or DVR, plays some sort of menu screen, or screen saver, that could indeed be accompanies by PCM audio - even if it's simply "playing silence".) (All AVRs and processors must "resynch" audio every time the stream is interrupted or changed - although some may do it more quickly than others and some may or may not tell you.)
Many AVRs and processors internally process the video they pass - which may include the ability to upsample or downsample it. Unfortunately, this not only adds complexity, but inevitable results in some reduction in video quality in some circumstances. The RMC-1 (and the XMC-1 and XMC-2) DO NOT resample video - so cause no loss of quality.
HOWEVER, since the HDMI signal itself can only be at a single resolution, and we don't change it, this means that we cannot deliver two different resolutions via the two outputs. (It also opens up the possibility that, if either monitor or projector fails to report its capabilities properly, there can be a problem with your source successfully choosing a resolution that works for both.)
(When you connect a 1080p device, we report back that "not all devices now connected support 4k" and your source device is supposed to "fall back to the lowest resolution that both support" - usually 1080p.)
I did test my projector again today with firmware 1.5. It still behaves the same, resyncing all the time.. Then I tried to change settings in my bluray player. Instead of relying that the hdmi sync being right I set the output resolution to 1080p/24. Also turned off Dolby Vision and HDR10. I put in a standard bluray disc, checked that it got both input and output in Rec709/sdr, 1080p/24 and everything else correct. It still did the resyncs all the time. Then I removed the Sony ZD9 from the output 2 on RMC. Then no more resyncing, I sat for almost one hour and a half testing different discs. Even some 4k disc that I scaled down to rec709 and 1080p. Everything worked fine. This worked fine on my previous AVR.. So is there something that RMC checks for that other manufacturers don’t that make it behave like this? Something that I have reacted to, and my friend visisting also, is that everytime I press pause RMC let go of audio sync. For example while playing a 4k movie with atmos, then pressing pause on the bluray player makes RMC go to PCM. Why does it do that? Yes if I press stop, but it should keep it in pause IMO. From what you describe it sounds like your Dish box is failing to "notice" that the RMC-1 has turned on... (So, it has "gone to sleep", shut off its output, and not noticed that it should turn the output back on because the RMC-1 is "there" again.)
However.....
"Maybe there’s a problem with the Sony TV hogging the HDMI sync somehow? Even though it’s in standby.." This is also a distinct possibility. HDMI devices remain "visible" to other HDMI devices, even when they're in Standby, even when they're off, and even when they're unplugged from the AC line. (An HDMI device actually sends power down the HDMI connection so it can read the status of the device at the other end - even if its off.) We have absolutely seen situations where a certain HDMI device causes problems - even when it's turned off - or ONLY when it's turned off. The easy way to rule this out is to physically unplug the HDMI cable between that TV and the RMC-1 and see if the problem goes away.
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Post by TDifEQ on Aug 19, 2019 9:29:33 GMT -5
From what you describe it sounds like your Dish box is failing to "notice" that the RMC-1 has turned on... (So, it has "gone to sleep", shut off its output, and not noticed that it should turn the output back on because the RMC-1 is "there" again.)
However.....
"Maybe there’s a problem with the Sony TV hogging the HDMI sync somehow? Even though it’s in standby.." This is also a distinct possibility. HDMI devices remain "visible" to other HDMI devices, even when they're in Standby, even when they're off, and even when they're unplugged from the AC line. (An HDMI device actually sends power down the HDMI connection so it can read the status of the device at the other end - even if its off.) We have absolutely seen situations where a certain HDMI device causes problems - even when it's turned off - or ONLY when it's turned off. The easy way to rule this out is to physically unplug the HDMI cable between that TV and the RMC-1 and see if the problem goes away.
While much much better generally there’s still much work to do until you reach other manufacturers level. Example, I have problem syncing with my parabol dish receiver. when I start it I usually get only picture, no sound at all. No matter of restarting any devices or changing order of start help. If RMC is on and I pull the plug of the dish receiver and reconnect it will sync picture and sound. It never works from standby. This has actually become worse since 1.4. Also the problem with two different output units. I have serious problems using my projector, as reported in earlier posts. And no problem at all from my TV. This with 1080p sources that should work for both outputs. If this has to do with output 1 or 2 problems, problems with devices that has different HDMI standard, resolution or whatever it still doesn’t work as it should. Not even close. As I said, I can’t even start my projector for a minute before resyncs start. It even resynced before outputting video from the bluray player, other than its logo. Maybe there’s a problem with the Sony TV hogging the HDMI sync somehow? Even though it’s in standby.. Same cable and everything worked flawlessly on Pioneer SC-LX801. 1)
Noted.... and, no promises, but I'm optimistic. 2)
We're not big believers in fancy feet... especially on devices with no moving parts (and no parts that are really affected by minor vibration). Adding fancy feet probably won't hurt anything... but we really doubt it would help. (DO avoid using feet that require excessively long screws... which can protrude inside the case and damage one of the circuit boards.) 3) Not necessarily a bad idea... but more of a grey area.
- Not every AVR allows audio pass-through... - Products that allow audio pass-through may not necessarily do so without altering the audio... - While we simply switch the video, many low-cost AVRs actually do pass it through some sort of processing, which MAY degrade the picture...
- And even low quality internal wiring might adversely affect the audio video to some degree (HDMI is a very high frequency and bandwidth signal)...
(So you're probably safer with some sort of purpose-built matrix switcher than with using a low cost AVR as a switch.)
4) We have eliminated most of the HDMI issues we've had - and are working on the remaining few. However, the two HDMI outputs on the XMC and RMC are essentially a single HDMI signal being passed through a splitter... Therefore, they WILL NOT deliver both 1080p and 4k signals AT THE SAME TIME...
(So, if the 1080p device is turned On, the output FOR BOTH will be switched to 1080p, and the 4k device will be getting a 1080p signal.) This is due to the way HDMI works. In order to get two different resolutions at the same time you would need to resample the video. Both the XMC and RMC act purely as switches - which ensures that you'll get the best possible video quality - but rules out resampling.
5) You absolutely CAN connect just one RCA output for Zone 2 if you like. It won't hurt anything (but you will only be hearing one channel.)
You can also combine the two into a single monaural channel using a simple passive mixer. (In this case, that can be as simple as a y-cable, wired with two resistors to act as a passive mixer.... but we don't recommend connecting the two outputs directly together.)
Hello all. Thank you so much for sharing in the thread, in helps a ton when making a purchase decision. I intend to purchase in December. I am torn between RMC-1, NAD and Arcam (in Europe RMC and Arcam cost roughly the same and NAD is almost $1k more expensive). Several questions come to mind: 1. Any guesses what’s the chance there will be more than one slot for Dirac filters? I’m sure it may be a deal breaker for people like me, who have screens that are retractable and acoustically transparent (Emo people, if you read this, PLEASE give us more than one slot). 2. RMC feet look pretty basic for a hi-end device. Do you think it’s worthwhile or even possible to install something more advanced? 3. Did anyone consider using an inexpensive receiver as a HDMI switcher and upscaler, sort of poor man’s version of Lumagen? And to work around possible issues with HDMI switching/locking in RMC? (I’m assuming the receiver will output unchanged audio...) 4. Since firmware 1.4 seems more refined, did anyone try to use both HDMI outputs when only one of them is 4k? Especially with Video On Standby? That’s going to be my setup, so I’m wondering. 5. Will zone 2 work with only one of two RCAs connected? (yeah, I know, there’s no mono setting for zone 2). When RMC-1 Output 1 and 2 both have a display connected, one display is active and the other display is inactive, but in standby mode: Can EMO development provide a "matrix mode" for RMC-1's outputs where the outputs are mutually exclusive and the RMC-1 only listens to the EDID coming from the user selected "active" output ... and ignores the EDID coming from the inactive output which has a display powered down in standby mode. Right now, RMC-1's Output 1 and 2 are in "splitter" mode, where both outputs get the same signal, but RMC-1 is listening to both outputs for EDID information. This mode is reeking havoc on the active output because the RMC-1 is being controlled, in some cases, by the EDID from the inactive output! Disconnecting the HDMI cable to the inactive RMC-1 output (with the display that's in standby power mode) is not an option. Matrix mode would prevent the RMC-1 from listening to EDID from the Output whose device is in standby and reeking havoc on the active RMC-1 output device. The user would have to select which RMC-1 output port (1 or 2) to use in matrix mode.
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Post by KeithL on Aug 19, 2019 9:56:11 GMT -5
I wanted to take a moment to answer your last question...
HDMI devices are virtually never "really out of the picture". As long as your HDMI monitor or projector is PHYSICALLY connected to other devices via an HDMI cable it remains visible to them.... - even if it is "In Standby"... - and even if it is "Off"... - and sometimes even if its power cable is unplugged from the wall...
In theory, there is status information that is relayed upstream, which tells other equipment when a downstream device is "offline"... So, for example, in theory, your Blu-Ray player should be informed when and if you have "a 4k TV that is On and a 1080p projector that is connected but Off".
(And, from that information, it will know that it's OK to send a 4k signal to your TV, because it knows that the projector is Off.)
HOWEVER, in practice, not all devices follow the rules properly, and not all devices set all the flags and other information properly. So, for example, a 1080p TV that is in Standby may "still look like it's a 1080p device that's On". And, if that happens, when your source "sees it", your source will step down to 1080p to accommodate it.
We have even seen one or two instances where a TV worked fine while it was On.... However, when it was Off, it continued to "report in" that it was still On....
And, as a result, the processor continually tried to perform HDMI negotiations, which would then fail, forever..... (A device that's Off will not successfully complete HDMI negotiations.)
The telltale test is to physically disconnect the HDMI cable to the device.........
(If you only have a problem when your device is "connected but turned Off" then there's something odd about your device.)
If you have a device that does this the only real solution is to add an HDMI switch to its line that physically disconnects it when you're not using it.
Have you tried completely unplugging the HDMI of each sink device and see if the issue remains for each one individually? Lonnie Yes. Each Output/sink works individually with no issues ... worse case is there is only a sync issue present and this is corrected by shifting RMC-1 inputs 1 > 3 >1 to trigger a hot plug connect ... like you said. Why does the other "inactive" output affect the active output? Are there any restrictions on how to use RMC-1 outputs? I've normally used output 2 for LG C* 77" OLED and output 1 for JVC600 projector ... unless in "audio only" mode.
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Post by SOWK on Aug 19, 2019 10:54:09 GMT -5
KeithL Lonnie Can we get confirmation Emotiva plans to support DTS-X Pro once it is released. I have a few people asking about the XMC-2 and RMC-1 on AVSForum that are interested in buying if they know you will be supporting that format once out.
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Post by TDifEQ on Aug 19, 2019 16:48:23 GMT -5
I wanted to take a moment to answer your last question...
HDMI devices are virtually never "really out of the picture". As long as your HDMI monitor or projector is PHYSICALLY connected to other devices via an HDMI cable it remains visible to them.... - even if it is "In Standby"... - and even if it is "Off"... - and sometimes even if its power cable is unplugged from the wall...
In theory, there is status information that is relayed upstream, which tells other equipment when a downstream device is "offline"... So, for example, in theory, your Blu-Ray player should be informed when and if you have "a 4k TV that is On and a 1080p projector that is connected but Off".
(And, from that information, it will know that it's OK to send a 4k signal to your TV, because it knows that the projector is Off.)
HOWEVER, in practice, not all devices follow the rules properly, and not all devices set all the flags and other information properly. So, for example, a 1080p TV that is in Standby may "still look like it's a 1080p device that's On". And, if that happens, when your source "sees it", your source will step down to 1080p to accommodate it.
We have even seen one or two instances where a TV worked fine while it was On.... However, when it was Off, it continued to "report in" that it was still On....
And, as a result, the processor continually tried to perform HDMI negotiations, which would then fail, forever..... (A device that's Off will not successfully complete HDMI negotiations.)
The telltale test is to physically disconnect the HDMI cable to the device.........
(If you only have a problem when your device is "connected but turned Off" then there's something odd about your device.)
If you have a device that does this the only real solution is to add an HDMI switch to its line that physically disconnects it when you're not using it.
Yes. Each Output/sink works individually with no issues ... worse case is there is only a sync issue present and this is corrected by shifting RMC-1 inputs 1 > 3 >1 to trigger a hot plug connect ... like you said. Why does the other "inactive" output affect the active output? Are there any restrictions on how to use RMC-1 outputs? I've normally used output 2 for LG C* 77" OLED and output 1 for JVC600 projector ... unless in "audio only" mode. Still, when the RMC-1 fixates on the inactive output port's EDID, the RMC-1 will not listen to the other RMC-1 output port ... even when the HDMI cable is disconnected ... the RMC-1 is locked into the EDID from the inactive port. Just tested this. The only way to get RMC-1 to listen to the active port is to first, disconnect the HDMI cable from the inactive display then to do a cold start reset (unplug from wall, wait 10 sec, plug back in, wait 2 min, ect). That's the only way it works. Your code seems to check the EDID of RMC-1 Output1 before Output2 and if it finds anything there ... [EDIT: or since the RMC-1 is a splitter, the output EDID sent back to the source is the lowest common denominator EDID of the 2 outputs] ... it will lock in to that EDID of that port/common_EDID ... and RMC-1 will never look at RMC-1's Output2 until a cold start reset is done. Yeah, disconnect the HDMI cable will work ... but, one needs to do a cold start reset to wake up the RMC-1 to read the EDID from Output2 ... changing RMC-1 input ports back and forth does not work ... RMC-1 off/on does not work ... turning off/on active display does not work ... turning off/on OPPO203 does not work ... only a cold start reset works. How about development give the owner the option of choosing only one RMC-1 Output port to use at a time and RMC-1 listens to the EDID of just that output port? All these cold start resets are not good for AV equipment. I can see why now OPPO203 provides a Forced HDR and Forced DV mode ... because of the EDID issues. Config: Goal: Trying to go from 4K HDR to 4K DV. 4K HDR only display (no DV) is on RMC-1 Output 1 (this display is inactive (Standby) but controlling the EDID) ... 4K DV display is on RMC-1 Output 2 and it's EDID is being ignored by RMC-1. Movie: 4K Hunter Killer (4kDV or 4kHDR, ATMOS) (disc)OPPO203/Main_V/A ---> Input1/RMC-1 RMC-1/Output1 --->---> JVC600 RMC-1/Output2 ---> LG_C8_77"_OLED
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Post by hsamwel on Aug 19, 2019 18:01:47 GMT -5
I did go through my dish receiver box settings again to find anything that could be wrong. I found thar CEC was on (off on all other of my devices), so I turned it off. I also found an option that has a ”fast startup” of some sort, it was on. I set it to slow startup, doing a full startup including checking for signal and doing a hdmi sync. I have RMC set video on standby and remember last input. I started my TV and the dish receiver did a slow startup and now got a picture. Yesterday I got nothing during several tests. Although still no sound. I though maybe try changing input might help. I pressed INPUT 6 which is my Analog 1 streamer input, no hdmi. To my surprice the sound suddenly started on the TV, this with RMC still on standby. How is this possible? The RMC passes both audio and video (using hdmi) when the "video on standby" is selected. I've found it's nice so if I need to quickly do anything involving AV, I can start my secondary monitor and the source device without having to power on the RMC. Edit: Opps, I just noticed you said you are using analog input. that is indeed strange. Maybe double check your internal input settings for AV connections on the RMC. I have all connections fully correct. The dish receiver is connected to hdmi 3 (input3) and the streamer on analog 1 (input 6). RMC was in standby with video on standby on and input set to hdmi 3. I only got video from the dish receiver. I got surpriced when I tried to do a input change to get a new hdmi sync so the audio might get on. After setting input to analog in then RMC’s lock of not passing audio to my TV through hdmi was let go, the instant I pressed input 6 button. This might be a moot problem however.. After going through the settings of the dish receiver it does now work fine with both video and audio. But it takes about a minute to start it instead of 4-5 seconds before. I can live with that. It’s too bad RMC is so picky with its hdmi syncing.
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Post by hsamwel on Aug 19, 2019 18:45:28 GMT -5
OK. I can buy that argument, most AVRs probably just keep the latest audio input in the display until a new is received. It does look a lot better than showing PCM x.x everytime you do a pause don’t you think? I had the possibility of doing video processing, but I had the AVR set to do straight passthrough so no change in video quality. I don’t do output on both devices at the same time. When using the projector the TV is obviously turned off. My projector reports fine when using it alone, so there must be something else disturbing RMC when the TV in connected and set to standby. EDIT: Also you always talk about others doing wrong, could it not be a bug in your software aswell? Is it not worth checking the code? Still I guess most other manufacturers get this working. So there must be a solution for this. Is there a way I could log what my RMC is doing when it does the resyncs and send it to you guys? The RMC-1 responds to the type of audio it is receiving at any given time (it doesn't specifically know if you've pressed Stop or Pause). When you do either, the audio coming from the surface of the disc, or from the video stream you've been watching, obviously stops playing... At that point it's up to your source device what sort of "audio carrier" it continues to send out while "idling". (So, if your disc player, or DVR, plays some sort of menu screen, or screen saver, that could indeed be accompanies by PCM audio - even if it's simply "playing silence".) (All AVRs and processors must "resynch" audio every time the stream is interrupted or changed - although some may do it more quickly than others and some may or may not tell you.)
Many AVRs and processors internally process the video they pass - which may include the ability to upsample or downsample it. Unfortunately, this not only adds complexity, but inevitable results in some reduction in video quality in some circumstances. The RMC-1 (and the XMC-1 and XMC-2) DO NOT resample video - so cause no loss of quality.
HOWEVER, since the HDMI signal itself can only be at a single resolution, and we don't change it, this means that we cannot deliver two different resolutions via the two outputs. (It also opens up the possibility that, if either monitor or projector fails to report its capabilities properly, there can be a problem with your source successfully choosing a resolution that works for both.)
(When you connect a 1080p device, we report back that "not all devices now connected support 4k" and your source device is supposed to "fall back to the lowest resolution that both support" - usually 1080p.)
I did test my projector again today with firmware 1.5. It still behaves the same, resyncing all the time.. Then I tried to change settings in my bluray player. Instead of relying that the hdmi sync being right I set the output resolution to 1080p/24. Also turned off Dolby Vision and HDR10. I put in a standard bluray disc, checked that it got both input and output in Rec709/sdr, 1080p/24 and everything else correct. It still did the resyncs all the time. Then I removed the Sony ZD9 from the output 2 on RMC. Then no more resyncing, I sat for almost one hour and a half testing different discs. Even some 4k disc that I scaled down to rec709 and 1080p. Everything worked fine. This worked fine on my previous AVR.. So is there something that RMC checks for that other manufacturers don’t that make it behave like this? Something that I have reacted to, and my friend visisting also, is that everytime I press pause RMC let go of audio sync. For example while playing a 4k movie with atmos, then pressing pause on the bluray player makes RMC go to PCM. Why does it do that? Yes if I press stop, but it should keep it in pause IMO.
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Post by goozoo on Aug 19, 2019 22:08:57 GMT -5
In playing around with the DTS:X/ Neural X I noticed that there is no ability to dial in the dialogue volume on the RMC like you can with other processors. Perhaps this was an oversight by engineering but am pretty sure this is part of the standard feature set for DTS:X. Anyone have any info on this?
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Post by novisnick on Aug 19, 2019 22:25:16 GMT -5
In playing around with the DTS:X/ Neural X I noticed that there is no ability to dial in the dialogue volume on the RMC like you can with other processors. Perhaps this was an oversight by engineering but am pretty sure this is part of the standard feature set for DTS:X. Anyone have any info on this? What do you mean, dial in? You can adjust the center channel till your hearts content. Its all in the menus.
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Post by goozoo on Aug 19, 2019 23:42:13 GMT -5
In playing around with the DTS:X/ Neural X I noticed that there is no ability to dial in the dialogue volume on the RMC like you can with other processors. Perhaps this was an oversight by engineering but am pretty sure this is part of the standard feature set for DTS:X. Anyone have any info on this? What do you mean, dial in? You can adjust the center channel till your hearts content. Its all in the menus. That’s not what that means. DTS:X and Neural:X spread the center channel out a bit creating the effect of a wider soundstage. You can notice this by playing a DTS-HDMA and then switching it up to Neural:X. Part of the protocol (I believe) is that you then have the ability to increase the dialogue volume so it is not as diffuse. Much like adding compression to an over expanded mix in the audio engineering world. This then creates the wider soundstage while keeping the dialogue intelligible. This is why some people are complaining that the Neural:X doesn’t have the impact and presence as regular DTS-HDMA. I have found this in every other higher end brand of processor except the RMC-1 and believe it is supposed to be part of the standard protocol.
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Post by cwt on Aug 20, 2019 1:05:51 GMT -5
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Post by wkingincharge on Aug 20, 2019 10:10:11 GMT -5
After reading the reviews and viewing some of the recent youtubers who have been positive mostly about press units I decided to make the jump from XMC-1 to RMC-1. I have been a user off and on of Emotiva prepros as far back as the UMC-1 and always felt that once they were all dialed in the sound could not be touched for the price. There was a member on here who even mentioned that the RMC-1 sounded as good if not better with no dirac over the XMC-1 with Dirac so this unit has immense potential.
I was originally going to wait for the XMC-2 upgrade but came to the realization that the RMC-1 would offer more flexibility with future modules etc and I would rather have it and not needed than needed and not have it.
Now just have to deal with a little system down time.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 20, 2019 11:21:58 GMT -5
After reading the reviews and viewing some of the recent youtubers who have been positive mostly about press units I decided to make the jump from XMC-1 to RMC-1. I have been a user off and on of Emotiva prepros as far back as the UMC-1 and always felt that once they were all dialed in the sound could not be touched for the price. There was a member on here who even mentioned that the RMC-1 sounded as good if not better with no dirac over the XMC-1 with Dirac so this unit has immense potential. I was originally going to wait for the XMC-2 upgrade but came to the realization that the RMC-1 would offer more flexibility with future modules etc and I would rather have it and not needed than needed and not have it. Now just have to deal with a little system down time. I honestly don’t think you will regret your purchase! Welcome to the club! 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 20, 2019 14:20:06 GMT -5
My RMC-1 is at the UPS terminal waiting for me to pick it up after work!
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Post by novisnick on Aug 20, 2019 14:31:52 GMT -5
My RMC-1 is at the UPS terminal waiting for me to pick it up after work! Let us know if it arrives with Blue M & M’s in the box!
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