tb123
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Post by tb123 on Sept 30, 2009 4:07:09 GMT -5
+1 for the rack mount jobbie for me!
I realise this may be beyond the scope for this device, but seeing how there is a volume control present which would allow direct connection to an amp (thus negating the need for a USP-1 type pre) is there any reason why a L+R HT Bypass connection wouldnt be a good idea? No bass management or anything, just straight in and straight out in a powered off state.
My reason being is that I already have an HT AVR connected to my AMP so was looking at the USP-1 however all I would have connected would be a single CDP or DAC. For me, the USP-1 is purely for the HT bypass function, if the DAC already had it, then all the better.
Also, it's been asked before, any ideas on time frames for this, it's definately on my Chritmas list whichever way it turns out?
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Post by maartenluijt on Sept 30, 2009 5:54:39 GMT -5
Dann, Finally + GRRREEAT!!!! :-) can I pre order ;D? I'm curious. What type of USB communication will be used?? see: www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Asynchronicity-USB-Audio-Primer(I copied this link from another thread on this forum). IMHO the USB is a must. Otherwise a umc-1 will do just fine. I think a lot of people want to move towards a music server (pc/mac) but don't have high quality tools to get the music from their drives to their (pre)amplifier. This would be the missing link. and... would you be able to push more channels through this machine??? then I donnot have to buy an Oppo BD player and I would also be able to store all my DVD's on my Media Center...
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Post by rdaneel on Oct 2, 2009 12:25:50 GMT -5
I'm WAY late to this, but I'd go for the wide version because it has volume control. It would let me use it as a preamp, which would totally rock.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 8:14:28 GMT -5
I'm WAY late to this, but I'd go for the wide version because it has volume control. It would let me use it as a preamp, which would totally rock. Chuckienut got waylayed too . . no worries ;D
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Post by Ghumbs on Oct 3, 2009 11:48:35 GMT -5
I REALLY don't want it to have volume control because it would look absolutely stupid and redundant beneath my USP-1. I don't want to say that would necessarily be a deal breaker, but it just might be.
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Post by bearfan51 on Oct 3, 2009 12:01:11 GMT -5
I REALLY don't want it to have volume control because it would look absolutely stupid and redundant beneath my USP-1. I don't want to say that would necessarily be a deal breaker, but it just might be. How about the lack of a volume knob? I'd prefer to have use of the volume control, for level matching between sources. Any updates on this thing yet?
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Post by Ghumbs on Oct 3, 2009 12:16:01 GMT -5
I REALLY don't want it to have volume control because it would look absolutely stupid and redundant beneath my USP-1. I don't want to say that would necessarily be a deal breaker, but it just might be. How about the lack of a volume knob? I'd prefer to have use of the volume control, for level matching between sources. Any updates on this thing yet? That's a valid point. The volume knob could be on the back.
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Post by GreenKiwi on Oct 5, 2009 9:59:29 GMT -5
I don't really want a volume nob, if it adds anything to the signal path.
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Post by dgshtav on Oct 5, 2009 18:54:27 GMT -5
"Dac very similar to what is in the ERC-1"....
This only muddies the product line up further (to me at least).
Don't get me wrong, I welcome the idea of a discrete DAC. I just don't see it's place in the product mix without appropriate differentiators, none of which I have seen yet other than the ability to convert an external signal. I will confess that I haven't gone through each post on the 12 pages this thread has so far, but I shouldn't have to coz. I expect the first post to reflect the specs and features being though about.
I would love to see how Emo sees this product complementing the rest of their product mix (particularly the XMC-1 and the ERC-1).
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Post by littlesaint on Oct 5, 2009 19:24:59 GMT -5
"Dac very similar to what is in the ERC-1"....This only muddies the product line up further (to me at least). Don't get me wrong, I welcome the idea of a discrete DAC. I just don't see it's place in the product mix without appropriate differentiators, none of which I have seen yet other than the ability to convert an external signal. I will confess that I haven't gone through each post on the 12 pages this thread has so far, but I shouldn't have to coz. I expect the first post to reflect the specs and features being though about. I would love to see how Emo sees this product complementing the rest of their product mix (particularly the XMC-1 and the ERC-1). An external DAC is for those that already have a good CD transport (like an Oppo), or a media server, and want a better DAC than that of the player or their AVR. It's cheaper (and potentially better) than replacing either.
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Post by dgshtav on Oct 5, 2009 23:25:15 GMT -5
An external DAC is for those that already have a good CD transport (like an Oppo), or a media server, and want a better DAC than that of the player or their AVR. It's cheaper (and potentially better) than replacing either. I understand that part as I am using my Azur 840c as an external DAC as well. What I am puzzled about is what synergies does this the discrete DAC product from Emo have with other Emo products and where does it exactly fit? If it's better than ERC-1 in that department, then ERC-1 is "waste of money" to me as I would only have to spend half that money on a decent digital transport. I would rather like to see a top of the line DAC complemented with a good digital transport only from Emo at a combined price (not significantly) higher than that of ERC-1. Also since a discrete DAC is expected to be a top of the line DAC, how does this overlap with that spec of XMC-1 (in the stereo music space)? EDIT: BTW, I love my ERC-1 as well and I am hard-pressed to tell a difference between the ERC-1 and the Azur 840C in my setup (though the Azur 840c does have a slight edge but also costs 3 times more)
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Post by jlafrenz on Oct 6, 2009 1:11:36 GMT -5
You may be right that the DAC is only half as much money, but not every one has fully converted to digital sources via the computer. Thought CD is still digital, many people still swear by it and will remain hardcore CD listeners. The way the market is going is that everything is done via the computer and is the reason for the DAC. Emotiva is expanding their product line to cover as many users as possible and provide a quality product that many demand. One product is not trying to replace the other, even though it may for some people.
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Post by littlesaint on Oct 6, 2009 7:21:59 GMT -5
The point is not to sell other products. It's to put out a good DAC at a reasonable price for those that need a good DAC, whether as a nice upgrade to an existing transport or a music server. If I were buying the XMC-1, then I probably wouldn't need this DAC, but I won't be buying the XMC-1, so this is perfect for my music server. Emotiva's products work very well on their own, in any system, so you don't have to have "Emotiva synergy" when implementing them.
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Post by patrickp on Oct 6, 2009 13:56:47 GMT -5
I intended to ask about a DAC as I thought it may be a relatively easy item since a CD player is already available; DACs also seem to be a hot item right now. My most wanted features would be: 1. A decent analog attenuator or volume control. 2. A Home theater bypass.
Almost all my music is from a digital streaming device now and a seperate processor is in charge of movies and radio.
A remote control is always nice of course.
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Post by dreadpiratemarc on Oct 11, 2009 21:21:28 GMT -5
I'd really like to get a word from Emotiva if this project has been green-lighted or not. I have a need for a one for my HTPC and if Emotiva is doing one then I'll wait for it, even if it's a ways out. If it's like the ERC-1 then I expect it to be worth the wait when compared to anything else out there in my price range. If not, then I'll look at existing alternatives. What I don't want to do is hold my breath for a year only to find out that they never were going to make one, you know?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2009 21:48:06 GMT -5
I'd really like to get a word from Emotiva if this project has been green-lighted or not. I have a need for a one for my HTPC and if Emotiva is doing one then I'll wait for it, even if it's a ways out. If it's like the ERC-1 then I expect it to be worth the wait when compared to anything else out there in my price range. If not, then I'll look at existing alternatives. What I don't want to do is hold my breath for a year only to find out that they never were going to make one, you know? Although I am not sure of the time line, I am comfortably sure this will come to fruition. Let the official word flow from Dann and company, though. I may be wrong.
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Post by trionfare on Oct 11, 2009 23:04:33 GMT -5
I'm in a similar boat - in that I need a DAC for an HTPC set-up (Using Xbox 360 to access content on Windows 7 PC)
I was about to pull the trigger on the peachtree Nova, but I'd wait for a DAC with the following: -Volume control and remote so that I could go straight into my XPA-2 (note the Xbox 360 does not allow you to change volume, so this would be a must for anybody with this config). -Home theatre by-pass so that I can get 5.1 sound out of any recorded TV on the Xbox. -DAC that can handle 176.4/24 bit via Xbox Spdif (for high res tracks). If it could also do this via USB I'd buy a second DAC and hook up Win7 Media center running from my laptop upstairs too.
+1 vote for Rack mountable size
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Post by MikeWI on Oct 12, 2009 17:45:48 GMT -5
I'd really like to get a word from Emotiva if this project has been green-lighted or not. I have a need for a one for my HTPC and if Emotiva is doing one then I'll wait for it, even if it's a ways out. If it's like the ERC-1 then I expect it to be worth the wait when compared to anything else out there in my price range. If not, then I'll look at existing alternatives. What I don't want to do is hold my breath for a year only to find out that they never were going to make one, you know? +1
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Post by Lonnie on Oct 12, 2009 18:23:50 GMT -5
I'd really like to get a word from Emotiva if this project has been green-lighted or not. I have a need for a one for my HTPC and if Emotiva is doing one then I'll wait for it, even if it's a ways out. If it's like the ERC-1 then I expect it to be worth the wait when compared to anything else out there in my price range. If not, then I'll look at existing alternatives. What I don't want to do is hold my breath for a year only to find out that they never were going to make one, you know? +1 I thought we had said it was in production, yes. It is. I do not have an exact date for it's arrival (or anything else, sorry). We'll let folks know when we ship. We are expecting several different projects to ship by the end of the year, but no exact times are promised/given.
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Post by SticknStones on Oct 12, 2009 18:49:17 GMT -5
I thought we had said it was in production, yes. It is. I do not have an exact date for it's arrival (or anything else, sorry). We'll let folks know when we ship. We are expecting several different projects to ship by the end of the year, but no exact times are promised/given. I would love nothing more than for you all to get these products in house and I know that you all want it more than the rest of the crew! 2010 is looking like a good year for Emotiva.
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