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Post by emonut on Sept 9, 2020 4:00:38 GMT -5
Hi guys,
Not sure if this is issue with my unit or by design. The HDMI ARC from XMC-2 connected to my Epson TW9400. But if there is no active video source, i.e I dont turn on my HTPC or 4k player then the Projector display No signal status and there is no OSD setting of the XMC-2 on screen of the projector at all.
I tried the other normal HDMI output of the XMC-2 but the same result.
Anyone has the same thing ?
Cheers
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KeithL
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Post by KeithL on Sept 9, 2020 9:37:42 GMT -5
You may get no OSD when the processor is first turned on, after being off, before any video has been passed through it.
Our HDMI switches overlay the OSD over the source video...
They can't seem to make up their mind what video mode to use if they "haven't seen any video yet".
Once ANY video has been passed, including program material, or even the "Hello screen" from your streamer or disc player, it will work as expected.
Hi guys, Not sure if this is issue with my unit or by design. The HDMI ARC from XMC-2 connected to my Epson TW9400. But if there is no active video source, i.e I dont turn on my HTPC or 4k player then the Projector display No signal status and there is no OSD setting of the XMC-2 on screen of the projector at all. I tried the other normal HDMI output of the XMC-2 but the same result. Anyone has the same thing ? Cheers
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Post by emonut on Sept 9, 2020 17:52:09 GMT -5
Not in my case. Once player turned on, there is ODS on screen and then player turned off, the projector goes back to no video signal.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 18:23:32 GMT -5
Not in my case. Once player turned on, there is ODS on screen and then player turned off, the projector goes back to no video signal. Which firmware version? It makes a difference. |
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Post by emonut on Sept 9, 2020 20:04:26 GMT -5
The latest one from September
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 21:13:45 GMT -5
The latest one from September Ok. Here's how it works. When a panel display and projector are simultaneously connected to both outputs, and while both are on, the OSD defaults to the Primary Output which is HDMI-2-CEC/ARC. So it doesn't matter if the PJ is plugged into HDMI-2, or the panel, whichever one it is will get the OSD and NOT the one plugged into HDMI-1-Output while both displays are on. If both are connected but only one of them is On, then the OSD will show, and again - it doesn't matter which is which. The OSD will show on HDMI-1-Output or HDMI-2-Output, which ever output has the active display while the other display is OFF. So the OSD will NOT operate on both displays simultaneously when both displays are on. Verified with Epson 5040UB. |
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Post by emonut on Sept 9, 2020 21:15:50 GMT -5
there is only projector connected.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 21:21:52 GMT -5
there is only projector connected. Mine works in either output as the only display, or, when plugged into HDMI-2-Output as a dual display. Maybe your PJ has blanking when it senses no video. So try this, turn off the PJ, then press Menu on the remote for the processor, then start the PJ. At this point there "should" be a fake video signal to make the screen black with the OSD present. If that doesn't work, then try the same thing but also disconnect the power cord to the PJ for a minute and plug back in once the processor is ready. |
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 21:23:06 GMT -5
One other thing, does you PJ have more than one input that's accessible from the remote? If so, then you don't have to unplug it, just change inputs.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 21:39:48 GMT -5
Here's what I've found with the Epson.
If I switch the Epson inputs to one that is not connected, then turn on the processor and switch to an empty input and wait for the front display to show nothing is connected, then on the Epson switch to the connected input from the processor which is a black screen output and press Menu on the remote the OSD shows up.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 9, 2020 21:59:52 GMT -5
A sad update.
I re-read what Keith said and discovered my error in diagnosing. The key phrase is "They can't seem to make up their mind what video mode to use if they "haven't seen any video yet". I was changing inputs after booting up with a live video source, so I pulled the plug on that one.
When the processor boots up in Low Power Standby with no signal on the Turn-On Input the OSD will not work. Period. I haven't discovered a workaround. I also tried Video Remains On, fail.
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Post by emonut on Sept 10, 2020 19:24:16 GMT -5
Thanks for your help mate, Unfortunately I have tried all the options you said previously, did extensive trial and error to no avai.... all the same result. I dont care if it does not work when XMC-2 on standby. As long as if Processor is on and Projector is on, there should be an established connection. Sadly not the case. I hope it will be considered and updated in the next firmware.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 10, 2020 20:52:04 GMT -5
Thanks for your help mate, Unfortunately I have tried all the options you said previously, did extensive trial and error to no avai.... all the same result. I dont care if it does not work when XMC-2 on standby. As long as if Processor is on and Projector is on, there should be an established connection. Sadly not the case. I hope it will be considered and updated in the next firmware. The important post was my last one where I discovered that the problem is when the processor is turned on AND has had no video on the input. In this state the OSD will never work no matter which type of display is connected. This cannot be "fixed" when the processor has nothing to see from the input side to establish how to size the OSD which is resolution dependent. The only way for the OSD to operate is for ANY video source to produce a signal on which to OVERLAY. Use your 4K player to provide a video signal to the processor, or use any old HDMI device to connect for this purpose. |
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