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Post by deezzer on Mar 27, 2010 0:10:04 GMT -5
This is my first post on this board and thought you guys would be the ones to ask.
First off I do plan on buying an external Emo amp,in the very near future.I have a Harman Kardon 630 avr and I'am happy with it but wanted something with hdmi.I don't have enough money to by a umc cause I will be using those funds for an amp.Now if I sell my avr and throw in a little cash ontop of what I sell it for,would it be worth it to find a usd mmc at a good price if I find it?Or should I just keep my H/K 630 and add the amp?
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 27, 2010 0:28:24 GMT -5
Is that a trick question? ...........................jk  First, Welcome to the Lounge.  I agree with you, you need something with HDMI. So, just look for a pre/pro or A/V receiver with at LEAST HDMI v1.3 (v1.4 is already here) and preouts for all channels duh. Your choice will be determined by the set of features that suits you best and your budget. Only YOU can make that final decision in your own system, and with your own preferences (you know; do I like an Ethernet port, USB, HD radio, XM radio, i-Pod connectivity, Auto Room Calibration, video processor, and all that Jazz... ). But do get on with the new high res audio codecs, it does sound GREAT. And for good prices in your actual situation, look at used equipment (Audiogon) or refurbs (Accessories4Less). Or even in the classified section right here at the Lounge. And READ about the features YOU want, and not someone else. Good luck, Bob |
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Post by deezzer on Mar 27, 2010 1:31:37 GMT -5
yes I would like the new dolby hd dts codecs but realy don't know what is a good solution.Realy wanted to try the pre/pro combo.Can the mmc get the new HD codec's through a firmware update?
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 27, 2010 2:04:51 GMT -5
yes I would like the new dolby hd dts codecs but realy don't know what is a good solution.Realy wanted to try the pre/pro combo.Can the mmc get the new HD codec's through a firmware update? The MMC-1 is an excellent pre/pro and if you are willing to buy a Blu-ray player that converts the HD codecs and outputs them via RCA to the MMC-1's 8-analog RCA inputs you will be happy. The MMC-1 has two HDMI inputs, but they are video only. Audio must be via a separate cable, either digital or RCA. Without knowing what other components you will be connecting to the pre/pro I cannot tell you if the MMC-1 is a good solution. I would also need the same information to recommend a specific AVR to be used as a pre/pro. The more detailed information you are able to provide us, the better our advice will be. It would be helpful to know the size of your listening area, where equipment would be in relation to the seating area, how many doors and windows and their relative placement, type of building materials in floor, walls and ceiling, type of furniture, your listening habits, the genre of music you listen to, and the ratio of movies watched versus music listening. These are all factors in guiding you what to purchase. Your current gear and the room layout are very important info. Finally, what is your goal. You may have to reach your goal in steps, depending on your budget. Good luck and welcome to the Lounge. |
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Post by deezzer on Mar 27, 2010 9:43:43 GMT -5
Thank you guys for the warm welcome. Let's see,I 'll be hooking up a ps3,htpc,maybe a wii. I'm running psb 6t mains,9c center,and b2 surrounds,my listening/watching position is 13ft. My house is 1400sf and my livingroom is 15x19 square shaped but opens up to a kitchen/eating area. Livingroom has one window,one entry door and a hallway that leads to the bedrooms. All this sits on a crawspace,house isn't 3yrs old yet. Also working on a DYI tempest-X subwoofer build setup. My preferance is a 70/30 split HT/Music. Let me know if I'm missing anything.
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Post by altpensacola on Mar 27, 2010 10:16:39 GMT -5
You do not NEED HDMI.
HDMI is just a wire behind the system, but in fact it's more,
it's been upgraded 3 times since it was invented.
They are still working on it.
It is notorious for handshake issues between components.
It blocks legal home recordings.
1080i 1080p - not a big difference.
Not even a small difference on most material.
I have HDMI and digital, optical, and DVI and coax.
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 27, 2010 21:52:54 GMT -5
Am I reading good advice here from some members to that nice fellow?   The easiest and simplest way to get the new high res audio codecs with high res picture is to get a receiver or pre/pro with at least HDMI version 1.3 (version 1.4 with 3D capability is already here). You only need one HDMI cable for all of this! Much cheaper that way and effective. I know, that's what I've been doing for the last three years. If you go the way these gentlemen are suggesting to you, you'll end up paying much more for all those multiple cables, and life would be much more complicated. I know, I've been there. Deezzer, follow my advice from reply #1, it will be much simpler and cheaper. You can get a receiver nowadays with everything you truly need for less than $400. If you want some recommendations for your particular use, just ask me, it will be my pleasure. Cheers, Bob P.S. No disrespect to other members, but just a simple and beneficial advice here. It is very obvious where the OP is coming from, and a simple and GOOD advice is BEST in his particular case. I know, I've seen it a thousand times and more... |
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 1:21:36 GMT -5
Well which one would you sugest?Are the newer Onkyo 8xx series any good?I also looked at the new pioneer 1019.I liked the onkyo 's for their room Audyssey EQ feature.Whats good out their now these days.
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 1:45:21 GMT -5
Ok lets also throw in this question.Besides hdmi and the newest codecs,what problems/cons would I have with an mmc-1?I already have most of the wires now, like optical and analog with my H/K.From what I've read in the past most prefer to let the device do the video processing not their stereo.
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Post by SDMonkey on Mar 28, 2010 1:50:51 GMT -5
Well which one would you sugest?Are the newer Onkyo 8xx series any good?I also looked at the new pioneer 1019.I liked the onkyo 's for their room Audyssey EQ feature.Whats good out their now these days. It's not as clear cut as it should be, basically it all comes down to how fat is your wallet and what do you really need. I was sitting in your shoes just a few weeks ago when I realized the UMC-1 wasn't for me. I needed something with HDMI for the new codecs. I looked at all the offerings from the big names. I almost bought a lot of different brands but I went for a Marantz SR6003 from Accessories 4 less. It has everything I needed and really I bought it for the AQ overall more than anything else. You can buy an Onkyo with tons of features for not much money but you really have to ask yourself how they cram all those features in while paying attention to AQ, meaning look beyond the feature set and look at how the unit is built. My best advise is buy what you know you need and will use, what good is a feature if your never gonna use it. You can find great deals on Marantz and Onkyo at Accessories4less.com..... Most importantly make sure whatever you are checking out has PRE OUTS for an external amps. |
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Post by hemster on Mar 28, 2010 1:55:40 GMT -5
Well which one would you sugest?Are the newer Onkyo 8xx series any good?I also looked at the new pioneer 1019.I liked the onkyo 's for their room Audyssey EQ feature.Whats good out their now these days. The Pioneer's MCACC EQ system is also pretty good. I'd suggest go listen to some units and let your ears decide. |
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 1:57:18 GMT -5
which codecs?I thought the umc had the latest(not hdmi 1.4 though).
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 1:59:58 GMT -5
Yes I would like to go listen but have to drive an hour to a place that does't sell just bottm line sony's and such.
I got to jump off here and get some guys,thanks for your help.
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Mar 28, 2010 2:18:26 GMT -5
which codecs?I thought the umc had the latest(not hdmi 1.4 though). They are adding 1.4 to the UMC-1. Just so you know. |
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 28, 2010 3:59:59 GMT -5
Well which one would you sugest?Are the newer Onkyo 8xx series any good?I also looked at the new pioneer 1019.I liked the onkyo 's for their room Audyssey EQ feature.Whats good out their now these days. 1. So, are you interested in a 9.2-channel setup then? 2. Do you want to have 3D capability eventually? 3. About Ethernet connection, interested on that, for streaming music from the WORLD? If you answered Yes to the #2 question, then wait, something new is coming your way that will make you bend down to your knees till you cry deep down of euphoria and audio bliss. If #2 ain't important right now for you and you can wait a couple years to get on it, and you answered Yes to the #1, then there is right now the Onkyo TX-NR1007 that is $999 or less if you're wise. And when you say the 8xx series, are you referring to the 807, or the 608? My guess it's the 807. But the 1007 is mucho better with some serious power and 9 power amplifiers, plus two separate subs that are separatly Audyssey MultEQ XT Auto Room EQying capable. ...Much better that the 807, it is plenty worthy of the price difference, I can assure you with total confidence. Come back here tomorrow (it's quite late now) and we'll discuss some more on your personal preferences with the right suggestions. If you want an Emotiva Receiver, sorry, they don't have one, if you want an Emotiva Multichannel pre/pro, we'll have to discuss this further to see if you're the right candidate. If you want a receiver from another manufacturer, no problemo, I got some cool recommendations for all type of budgets, and from any brands that you feel is right for you, no pressure, no bias, no slavery, pure and total FREEDOM, and only the very best for what they're supposed to do, period. We'll talk about your speakers, your room, total budget, future expansions, etc.... Be here in the now, be square. Cheer up, it's your lucky luck, Bob P.S. If I'm not here when you are, don't sweat it, there are several people here with great expertise and suggestions. Just make sure you discuss the important points that are YOUR PRIORITIES and not the other people's wishes, right? And the first rule: TAKE YOUR TIME, there is absolutely no rush. Best is to write down your plans on a piece of reasonable size paper and your total allowed budget as well. |
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Post by moe on Mar 28, 2010 7:43:31 GMT -5
Going from an HK to an Onkyo? I was much happier with my 630/635 than I ever have been with the sound of the 805.
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Post by altpensacola on Mar 28, 2010 8:10:11 GMT -5
deezer, I hope you listen to that $2000 Harmon Kardon with the new amp for awhile before you buy into some of that "3D" audio bliss out there.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 28, 2010 8:30:54 GMT -5
deezer, I hope you listen to that $2000 Harmon Kardon with the new amp for awhile before you buy into some of that "3D" audio bliss out there. +1 with this advise. Give yourself some time listening to your HK. |
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 23:44:44 GMT -5
I'm not interested in 3d rigjt now,I'll wait till all the prices come down over the next few years and all the bugs get worked out.Hell I'm just now looking on a good deal on a plasma.I have a 20" crt in my living room righ now.Heres the deal,Uncle same finaly showed up and the wife gave me the ok for the tv.I have a few hundred saved up in stocks for that right deal on an Emotiva 5-ch amp.Still debating xpa-5 or upa-5,boils down to which one I find for the best deal used.So the amp is kinda coming out of my own little fund.I figured if I sell my H/K for some coin and and only took out alittle bit of money out of our return she couldn't/shouldn't be too mad.I kinda wanted to get something new for awhile ,not long term,maybe a year or two from now to tie me over till I can buy something current.Not realy interested in I pod connectivity or all the wi/fi,xm etc.I just want something that sounds good,not all the frills and fluff.The Marantz sr5004 looked interesting?But why does it only way 28lbs compared to the onkyo 807 weighing 39lbs??
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Post by deezzer on Mar 28, 2010 23:54:31 GMT -5
Wow would of loved to jump on the umc-1 for sale on this board but have no amp to push it!!!
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