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Post by monkeypimp on Apr 17, 2010 22:08:28 GMT -5
I am confused as to whether my issues are from a bad installation or are firmware issues.
Here are my issues:
1) Crazy loud when switching from DD5.1 to DD2/0 seems to mostly come from the rear speakers.
2) Audio drops while ff/rewinding and sometimes just randomly.
Also when I spoke to Vincent on Friday he said these were problems with the installation but When I read Lonnie's post it seems that they are firmware issues.
I just don't want to have to send it back to get it fixed.
Any suggestions? Do I send it back or wait for the next firmware update?
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Post by Indycolts on Apr 17, 2010 22:13:40 GMT -5
same issues, would also love to know.
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Post by Chris on Apr 17, 2010 22:48:04 GMT -5
same issues, would also love to know. Problem 1 appears to be identified as a bug in V6 according to a post by Lonnie yesterday. emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=preamps&thread=9051&post=169214Problem 2 also is being reported as a potential bug but has not been confirmed yet. I think it best to hold tight until at least Monday when the Mothership reports in. In the meantime, you can switch your DD 2/0 defaults to something like Stereo or Direct to avoid the PL II switching. You might find this less jarring? -CB |
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 17, 2010 23:18:11 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of both at this point. If you have the time, redo the flash. If you're using XP, check out the Emonatics UMC-1 firmware page for hints on doing the flash, and also for the latest USBXpress drivers. |
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Post by monkeypimp on Apr 18, 2010 8:21:44 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of both at this point. If you have the time, redo the flash. If you're using XP, check out the Emonatics UMC-1 firmware page for hints on doing the flash, and also for the latest USBXpress drivers. I am using Win 7 64bit in safe mode with networking....it goes through without even the slightest hint of problems. So not sure what to do. |
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Post by markus on Apr 18, 2010 8:43:41 GMT -5
All we need right now is a way to identify a successful firmware installation. I don't want to go through all the hassle of sending the UMC-1 in for an update only to find out that the problems I'm experiencing are still there.
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Post by rang on Apr 18, 2010 9:07:48 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of both at this point. If you have the time, redo the flash. If you're using XP, check out the Emonatics UMC-1 firmware page for hints on doing the flash, and also for the latest USBXpress drivers. I am using Win 7 64bit in safe mode with networking....it goes through without even the slightest hint of problems. So not sure what to do. I am also using a Win 7 64 bit laptop and also goes through (3X now) with out a problem.... last night I did a reinstall of v6 with nothing plugged into the UMC (just the power cord and USB cable) and went through again with out issues... One thing that I did notice was the that time it takes to download the DPS1Flash took about 3:57 and in the PDF instructions they state that it should take 3:59. has anyone else seen this? just a observation that I seen last night. |
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Post by hemster on Apr 18, 2010 10:01:38 GMT -5
I am also using a Win 7 64 bit laptop and also goes through (3X now) with out a problem.... last night I did a reinstall of v6 with nothing plugged into the UMC (just the power cord and USB cable) and went through again with out issues... One thing that I did notice was the that time it takes to download the DPS1Flash took about 3:57 and in the PDF instructions they state that it should take 3:59. has anyone else seen this? just a observation that I seen last night. The time taken depends on the computer used to do the firmware update with. The CPU speed, memory etc. would have a direct bearing on it. However, since your time and the PDF time are almost the same, this is a good sign IMHO. |
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 18, 2010 10:41:40 GMT -5
I am also using a Win 7 64 bit laptop and also goes through (3X now) with out a problem.... last night I did a reinstall of v6 with nothing plugged into the UMC (just the power cord and USB cable) and went through again with out issues... One thing that I did notice was the that time it takes to download the DPS1Flash took about 3:57 and in the PDF instructions they state that it should take 3:59. has anyone else seen this? just a observation that I seen last night. The time taken depends on the computer used to do the firmware update with. The CPU speed, memory etc. would have a direct bearing on it. However, since your time and the PDF time are almost the same, this is a good sign IMHO. The time, from start to finish, of the code transfer itself should be most dependent on the performance of the microcontoller in the UMC-1 and the host processor that processes the received packets. There is likely to be a significantly greater discrepancy (as in up to several seconds) than there would be in a faster system. The processors in systems like these are often running at speeds in the ranges of 100 to 500MHz, sometimes a little faster. When you take into account timing and clocks, etc., running the same process 10 times on one system could yield different results, and running the same process 10 times on 10 different systems could yield even greater differentiation in results. You can observe similar results on modern mobile phones. If you could get 10 different phones of the same model and perform a series of commands against them run concurrently, it is highly unlikely they would all finish at the same time. As clocks speeds increase these differences become harder to observe. |
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Post by marius on Apr 18, 2010 11:22:09 GMT -5
hmm I started a similar thread here: emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=preamps&action=display&thread=10995mods, feel free to merge. Request granted.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In some ways v6 made things better in some ways it made things worse. Better - you no longe have to switch input or reboot UMC to fix it. changing channel or rewind/fastforward seems to fix it. Worse - probably everything else. Happens more often (almost every time when i switch channel). Happens via both HDMI and Optical (ie. I can no longer work around the problem by going to optical). Occasional large volume gain. Sometimes certain channels lose audio, etc. Seems pretty prevalent with DD2.0. I noticed that Lonnie/Dan hasn't acknowledged this problem. Has anyone called in to Emotiva about this? I already called them about the IIx issue - i'd rather not called them again if there are already a number of calls into Emotiva on this same issue. DVR: VIP722 |
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Post by marius on Apr 18, 2010 13:08:05 GMT -5
Ok more data. I realized that i started seeing all these issues when I disabled PLIIx. So I went back to PLIIx and the dropouts stopped immediately. So it's the lesser of two evils: unnatural sound of IIx at current implementation or audio dropouts.
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 18, 2010 15:33:07 GMT -5
Ok more data. I realized that i started seeing all these issues when I disabled PLIIx. So I went back to PLIIx and the dropouts stopped immediately. So it's the lesser of two evils: unnatural sound of IIx at current implementation or audio dropouts. marius, I'm not a PL IIx expert/user, but according to one of Lonnie/Dan's posts, wasn't the unnatural sound due to setting the Center Width to maximum instead of minimum in the firmware? So, couldn't you, theoretically, go in and turn it all the way down as far as it will go, and it would "fix" the sound for now? I may have completely misunderstood this, but I figured I'd ask and see what you find out. |
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Post by dkjohn on Apr 18, 2010 16:56:45 GMT -5
Ok more data. I realized that i started seeing all these issues when I disabled PLIIx. So I went back to PLIIx and the dropouts stopped immediately. So it's the lesser of two evils: unnatural sound of IIx at current implementation or audio dropouts. marius, I'm not a PL IIx expert/user, but according to one of Lonnie/Dan's posts, wasn't the unnatural sound due to setting the Center Width to maximum instead of minimum in the firmware? So, couldn't you, theoretically, go in and turn it all the way down as far as it will go, and it would "fix" the sound for now? I may have completely misunderstood this, but I figured I'd ask and see what you find out. After the upgrade I did on the USBexpress driver on Bills site I was able to use my Windows 7 laptop to redo the upgrade ver 3.2.2 |
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Post by marius on Apr 18, 2010 17:53:38 GMT -5
Ok more data. I realized that i started seeing all these issues when I disabled PLIIx. So I went back to PLIIx and the dropouts stopped immediately. So it's the lesser of two evils: unnatural sound of IIx at current implementation or audio dropouts. marius, I'm not a PL IIx expert/user, but according to one of Lonnie/Dan's posts, wasn't the unnatural sound due to setting the Center Width to maximum instead of minimum in the firmware? So, couldn't you, theoretically, go in and turn it all the way down as far as it will go, and it would "fix" the sound for now? I may have completely misunderstood this, but I figured I'd ask and see what you find out. The centert width setting had zero effect for me. I don't think it's working as intended. You can test this yourself Bill, for DD5.1 sources applying IIx should have very little effect on the front channels. If it sounds very different then something's wrong. |
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