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Post by mysterymachine on May 1, 2010 13:29:45 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out how to setup my Oppo BDP-83 analog connection to the UMC. Are distance and level applied to the 7.1 analog in the UMC?
If so then I would want to set the distances all equal and the levels all at 0 in the BDP-83 right? Otherwise it would essentially be doubling the delays and level adjustment by doing it once in the player and again in the UMC.
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Post by bfisher on May 1, 2010 15:46:53 GMT -5
Agreed - I'd do it one place or the other...
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Post by mysterymachine on May 5, 2010 1:48:48 GMT -5
I emailed Emotiva customer support this morning and received a reply this afternoon that the level and distance settings are not applied to 7.1 analog in so I should set them in the player.
Thanks for the prompt reply emotiva support!
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Post by NorthStar on May 5, 2010 2:11:36 GMT -5
That goes pretty much for the vast majority of pre/pros & receivers out there.
Only very few have bass management on their analog multichannel inputs.
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Post by doc1963 on May 5, 2010 5:13:29 GMT -5
That goes pretty much for the vast majority of pre/pros & receivers out there. Only very few have bass management on their analog multichannel inputs. I can confirm the the Outlaw Model 990 does if any speaker is set to "small" or the sub setting is LFE+L/R. This is performed at the cost of "re-digitizing" the incoming signal. That's an undesirable function if the ADC/DAC is inferior to that of the incoming source (for example the Sabre DACs of the OPPO BDP-83). |
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Post by Lonnie on May 5, 2010 7:06:59 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well.
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Post by elwicksto on May 5, 2010 10:44:40 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well. don't know if this has already been suggested/requested, but if the umc-1 manual (and/or sister document/page) had a high-level signal path diagram, that could help answer the various signal path questions that come up. |
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Post by mysterymachine on May 5, 2010 19:28:15 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well. I like it  Just wanted to be sure I was setting it up correctly. |
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Post by kwadswor on May 5, 2010 21:26:52 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well. The question wasn't about crossover or bass management, Lonnie. It was about distance and levels. Since levels are a subset of volume control, I would assume that they are applied. I think that's the way most other "fully analog" pre-pro's/AVR's work. |
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Post by mysterymachine on May 5, 2010 22:18:29 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well. The question wasn't about crossover or bass management, Lonnie. It was about distance and levels. Since levels are a subset of volume control, I would assume that they are applied. I think that's the way most other "fully analog" pre-pro's/AVR's work. I specifically sent an email to emotiva asking about distance and level and was told they are not applied. My last 2 receivers did not apply distance or level to the analog 7.1 in. I will see if I can go test (with the parameter menu should be easy enough to test). |
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Post by mysterymachine on May 5, 2010 22:53:01 GMT -5
Well guess what... Levels ARE applied to 7.1 analog in (don't know of good way to test distance)... just listened to a CD over 7.1 ext in and cranked the left and dropped the right in the parameter menu and you could see it was being applied.
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Post by mysterymachine on May 5, 2010 23:02:14 GMT -5
Just tested: crossovers are NOT applied to external 7.1 (thankfully).
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Post by jlafrenz on May 5, 2010 23:03:38 GMT -5
The analog 7.1 input was designed from the start to be a pure analog path. So there are no crossovers, bass management. It is just a pure analog path with volume control. It was designed this way for those who are looking for the processor to also work as a pure analog pre-amp as well. The question wasn't about crossover or bass management, Lonnie. It was about distance and levels. Since levels are a subset of volume control, I would assume that they are applied. I think that's the way most other "fully analog" pre-pro's/AVR's work. I am sure Lonnie was just stating the facts about crossover and bass management for clarification as it has been a subject in debate on another thread. The levels are set in the player and the pre/pro just be comes a main volume for all the channels. I don't see any reason to question him being the fact he designed the unit. |
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Just wanted to be sure I was setting it up correctly.
