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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 22, 2011 19:31:46 GMT -5
HAHHAHAHHA!!! Agreed! ;D I am sure the cost of the ERC-1 would have jumped considerably. At the time I bought my ERC, I also bought the Oppo BDP83. For $100 more, not only does the Oppo play SACDs, but also DVD, DVD-A, and BLU RAY!! I seriously doubt the ERC would have been that much more costly. I think Harvey is right, even it if had cost $100, I would've still bought the ERC-1. |
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 21:14:49 GMT -5
HAHHAHAHHA!!! Agreed! ;D I am sure the cost of the ERC-1 would have jumped considerably. At the time I bought my ERC, I also bought the Oppo BDP83. For $100 more, not only does the Oppo play SACDs, but also DVD, DVD-A, and BLU RAY!! I seriously doubt the ERC would have been that much more costly. I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? I'm guessing the fact you still own the ERC-1 gives me the answer but I hate to assume. |
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 21:16:16 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a way to hack the ERC-1 to make it do other things, I'm sure its just a matter of turning things on and off on the chip so if any members are code writers get busy!
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 21:43:46 GMT -5
Would a SACD played in my blu ray player sound better than a normal CD playing in my ERC-1?
I'm thinking that the DAC in the ERC-1 are better than in the UMC-1, but maybe the better content of the SACD would still make it better.
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Post by paintedklown on Jan 23, 2011 21:51:31 GMT -5
Lets pretend for a moment that I know absolutely NOTHING about SACD. (I am not really pretending)
Please tell me why I should listen to SACD instead of a regular CD or vinyl...is it for multichannel music, or is the resolution a lot better?
Yes, I know I could just "google" for the answer but I am curious as to what the "real" allure is from real audiophiles. I hope that makes sense. ;D
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 23, 2011 21:56:54 GMT -5
Lets pretend for a moment that I know absolutely NOTHING about SACD. (I am not really pretending) Please tell me why I should listen to SACD instead of a regular CD or vinyl...is it for multichannel music, or is the resolution a lot better? Yes, I know I could just "google" for the answer but I am curious as to what the "real" allure is from real audiophiles. I hope that makes sense. ;D You already answered your question.  It is for the multichannel tracks and the higher resolution, and yes you can hear it. |
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Post by paintedklown on Jan 23, 2011 22:03:30 GMT -5
Lets pretend for a moment that I know absolutely NOTHING about SACD. (I am not really pretending) Please tell me why I should listen to SACD instead of a regular CD or vinyl...is it for multichannel music, or is the resolution a lot better? Yes, I know I could just "google" for the answer but I am curious as to what the "real" allure is from real audiophiles. I hope that makes sense. ;D You already answered your question. It is for the multichannel tracks and the higher resolution, and yes you can hear it. Thanks for your response. Is the sound a 5.1 mix? Does it vary disc to disc? And I assume these have audio resolution equal to that of a standard dvd...just without video?  |
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Post by kse on Jan 23, 2011 22:06:53 GMT -5
I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? Just as good, I have both. |
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 22:28:24 GMT -5
I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? Just as good, I have both. If the Oppo is just as good, why did you keep the ERC-1? |
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Post by kse on Jan 23, 2011 22:30:18 GMT -5
Is the sound a 5.1 mix? Does it vary disc to disc? And I assume these have audio resolution equal to that of a standard dvd...just without video? The majority of SACDs are mixed in 5.1, however I believe, but not certain, that a SACD may be stereo as well. I would consider SACD audio superior to DVD audio. Quite a bit better, actually. |
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Post by kse on Jan 23, 2011 22:39:29 GMT -5
Just as good, I have both. If the Oppo is just as good, why did you keep the ERC-1? Honestly, I love CDs. I don't have a very good answer for you, I just really like the idea of a dedicated CD player. Plus, the ERC-1 is just cool, and it looks great with my Emo amps. I think the main reason I'll keep it is because it is a damn good CD player. And if I ever need one somewhere other than my media room, I could always move it. |
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 23:02:42 GMT -5
If the Oppo is just as good, why did you keep the ERC-1? Honestly, I love CDs. I don't have a very good answer for you, I just really like the idea of a dedicated CD player. Plus, the ERC-1 is just cool, and it looks great with my Emo amps. I think the main reason I'll keep it is because it is a damn good CD player. And if I ever need one somewhere other than my media room, I could always move it. I can understand your reason. I have an old Sony 5 disc CD player that I have not been in my main system for years. I've been using DVD and then BD players ever since. The ERC-1 brought a higher level of sound quality to my current system, but honestly in retrospect if I had known I could have bought one unit to do both I probably would have done that instead. I just wanted a true CD player again to see what I was missing. If I didn't see an improvement over using my BD player I would have returned the ERC-1. But damn my UMC-1, ERC-1 and XPA-5 all with black trim do look great!!!!! |
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Post by kse on Jan 23, 2011 23:16:13 GMT -5
I just wanted a true CD player again to see what I was missing. If I didn't see an improvement over using my BD player I would have returned the ERC-1. That right there is a big reason why I decided to buy an ERC-1. I thought (and still think) the Oppo 83 is an find CD player via it's analog outputs, but after reading all the positive words on the ERC-1, I just had to compare them for myself. If there is a difference, it is by the slightest of margins. And I will underscore, this is in my room with my equipment and my ears. Someone else's comparison may yield different results. |
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Post by Animo on Jan 23, 2011 23:30:44 GMT -5
At the time I bought my ERC, I also bought the Oppo BDP83. For $100 more, not only does the Oppo play SACDs, but also DVD, DVD-A, and BLU RAY!! I seriously doubt the ERC would have been that much more costly. I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? I'm guessing the fact you still own the ERC-1 gives me the answer but I hate to assume. It's in my signature. I kept both because the ERC plays HDCDs and the Oppo doesn't. |
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 23:33:26 GMT -5
I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? I'm guessing the fact you still own the ERC-1 gives me the answer but I hate to assume. It's in my signature. I kept both because the ERC plays HDCDs and the Oppo doesn't. I see it now, not sure how I missed it before. |
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Post by sancho89 on Jan 29, 2011 13:05:29 GMT -5
I have a cd thats comes with a seperate sacd and a regular cd (2 channel mix).
I've played the cd on the erc with a usp.
The sacd on the ps3 through the umc.
The sacd sounds very slightly smoother, but because the ps3 fan is noisy, I listen to the cd on the erc.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 29, 2011 16:59:41 GMT -5
I don't see the Oppo on your signature, do you still have it? I guess I'm just curious how the Oppo compared to the ERC-1 for playing CDs? I'm guessing the fact you still own the ERC-1 gives me the answer but I hate to assume. It's in my signature. I kept both because the ERC plays HDCDs and the Oppo doesn't. Actually both of the latest Oppo's, BDP-83 & 93 are HDCD capable. |
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Post by Animo on Jan 29, 2011 22:10:38 GMT -5
It's in my signature. I kept both because the ERC plays HDCDs and the Oppo doesn't. Actually both of the latest Oppo's, BDP-83 & 93 are HDCD capable. I'll have to double check that. Checked the Oppo site and you are correct. Hmmmmm.........I may just sell my ERC after all. |
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Post by harri009 on Jan 30, 2011 17:16:53 GMT -5
So ? How does the ERC respond when you put a SACD in and it does not happen to have a HDCD or CD layer. Will it get stuck or hurt it? Just wondering, just got mine hooked up. Bought 3rd hand, thanks Justin
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 30, 2011 17:21:18 GMT -5
So ? How does the ERC respond when you put a SACD in and it does not happen to have a HDCD or CD layer. Will it get stuck or hurt it? Just wondering, just got mine hooked up. Bought 3rd hand, thanks Jason It just plays the redbook cd layer and HDCD's are redbook cd's. |
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It is for the multichannel tracks and the higher resolution, and yes you can hear it.
