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Post by basicsystem on Jun 11, 2010 12:49:05 GMT -5
I like the Emo cables, but the speaker cable lengths are too long (3 meters min.). I guess they are OK for those with racks and speakers in a room, but they are too long for people (like me) with in-wall wiring and wall jacks.
If anyone from Emo reads this, please offer at least one 1-meter option (preferably the 10 gauge X series).
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 11, 2010 16:21:45 GMT -5
I believe that you can purchase Emotiva speaker wire by the foot if you contact them. This would come unterminated though. Not sure if that matters or not to you. There are lots of bananas or spades available though.
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Post by basicsystem on Jun 11, 2010 16:42:32 GMT -5
I prefer the pre-built cables because they look better and hold up better. I have had problems with my speaker cables. The ones I use for hooking up outdoor speakers fall apart (kink and break) quickly, usually at the "Y" and just before banana plugs. I just replaced some with Dayton cables. They are nice but they are lower gauge (not a big deal), a little too long (2 meters), and look like they too will break easily at the banana plug.
I'm just saying: If Emo offered a 1-meter version, I would buy it.
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 11, 2010 17:37:47 GMT -5
Speaker cables are quite easy to dress up with some techflex, heat shrink, and cable pants.
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Post by basicsystem on Jun 11, 2010 19:14:29 GMT -5
Speaker cables are quite easy to dress up with some techflex, heat shrink, and cable pants. Those actually look very similar to my new Dayton's (but higher gauge). The problem I am anticipating is between the banana plugs and the "pants." Maybe it won't be a problem. My problems in the past may have been due to the Monster Cable. The wire insulation was very soft rubber and split very easy (and seemed to degrade over time). I'll wait and see how the Dayton's hold up. Emo's termination kit is for their Ultra cables. I used it recently to terminate my surround speaker cables behind my cabinet. They are nice, but not super (they're "Ultra").
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Post by patrickp on Jul 4, 2010 9:37:22 GMT -5
I second it on shorter cables. I have the XPA-1's parked next to the speakers so a 1.5m - 2m would work best for me. (I love the amps by the way) I know a lot of odd cable lengths can be very difficult to deal with for a mfg or retailer. Especially when they are made the way Emotiva makes them, nicely done but difficult or impossible to 'build to order' so to speak. The most commonly sold cable is 8ft. but a shortie to use with mono=blocks would be nice - especially considering the amps very wide terminal spacing. Right now it almost requires a person to brew their own. I know it's faily easy but I've build enough interconnects and speaker wires in my life that I would rather just purchase yhem these days.
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Post by McD on Jul 14, 2010 10:44:54 GMT -5
I've read numerous sources that believe that speaker cables should be no shorter than 8ft. long, to optimize either capacitance or inductance, I can't remember which.
My amps are close to my speakers, so I run the cables in a kind of serpentine fashion away from the speaker, then to the speakers. Also, my rack/cabinet is on casters, so the extra length gives me the slack to move the rack.
Hope this helps.
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Post by roflcatdown on Oct 27, 2010 0:30:45 GMT -5
I've read numerous sources that believe that speaker cables should be no shorter than 8ft. long, to optimize either capacitance or inductance, I can't remember which. My amps are close to my speakers, so I run the cables in a kind of serpentine fashion away from the speaker, then to the speakers. Also, my rack/cabinet is on casters, so the extra length gives me the slack to move the rack. Hope this helps. This guy Roger Russell worked for McIntosh Labs for something like 25 years. That is his online breakdown of cable length vs gauge vs impedance of speakers. The basic answer is that speaker cable is speaker cable is speaker cable. As long as the gauge of the wire is sufficient for the speaker load and distance, you're pretty much set. No special time correct windings, no shielding, just cable. Banana plugs aren't even better than bare cable. Just more convenient if you move your gear often. So, to be quite honest, if you don't care how pretty the cable looks there's no reason to not just go buy large gauge speaker wire from Monoprice. If you're doing structured wiring you might as well put in the largest gauge speaker wire you can afford. That way you'll never need to go back and re-do it.
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Post by kc on Oct 27, 2010 14:36:22 GMT -5
Thanks for that link. It was a great read. Based on that, I have decided to go for some oxygen free 12 ga speaker wire. No terminators, sleeves, pants, etc. Just strip the end, tighten it down and call it a day.
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Post by thepcguy on Oct 27, 2010 15:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by roflcatdown on Oct 28, 2010 15:56:10 GMT -5
Thanks for that link. It was a great read. Based on that, I have decided to go for some oxygen free 12 ga speaker wire. No terminators, sleeves, pants, etc. Just strip the end, tighten it down and call it a day. Like the link said. If you're not worried about looks, or running a great distance, pretty much anything that is at least 16 gauge is just fine and you actually can't tell the difference. I've been to Monster Cable's corp HQ, I've had them demo cables for me. I couldn't tell the difference 10 years ago, I still can't tell the difference now.
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