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Post by ricardojoa on Jun 18, 2010 3:15:25 GMT -5
Can someone tell me in general how to integrate a 2 ch system (preamp+amp) into an avr for movies, with no HT bypass.
thank you
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 18, 2010 6:09:40 GMT -5
What gear do you have?
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Post by ricardojoa on Jun 18, 2010 8:35:29 GMT -5
I currently have a marantz 6400 avr. The reason for this, is because i need to find out wherther integrating a 2ch preamp with no by pass into an avr is possible or not. It seems that there are alot of 2ch with no HT by pass, and it just opens up for other options instead of dealing with jsut the ones with HT by pass.
Thanks
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 18, 2010 8:54:17 GMT -5
It is possible, but can also get tricky. What source components are you going to use? Do you listen to 2 channel with a sub or just full range mains? And finally, what amp are you looking to add?
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Post by ricardojoa on Jun 19, 2010 6:29:48 GMT -5
Thanks.
im thinking parasound p3 preamp and parasound a21 amp.
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 19, 2010 9:41:59 GMT -5
Have you ever considered a passive preamp? This is why I ask what your source components would be since they would be the ones driving the amp. It would merely act as a volume control and a source selector. I have one and have it set up to do bypass for HT. There is a bit more to it for your sources and amps, but the bypass part is easy.
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Post by ricardojoa on Jun 19, 2010 10:56:44 GMT -5
Im currently using erc1. So whats the deal with passive preamp? I thought that active preamp do the same as volume control and input selelector?
I am basically looking in a way to integrate a 2ch system in an AVR. I only have the avr for now, but im limit to preamp that are rated 220v.
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 19, 2010 11:29:16 GMT -5
Im currently using erc1. So whats the deal with passive preamp? I thought that active preamp do the same as volume control and input selelector? I am basically looking in a way to integrate a 2ch system in an AVR. I only have the avr for now, but im limit to preamp that are rated 220v. You are correct that an active preamp is a volume control and a source selector. The deal with a passive is that there are no active parts and no power supply. It acts as a way to route sources to your amps. The nice thing about it is that since it has now power supply and does not amplify the signal, there is no distortion added into the signal path. It's a more pure signal. I also think it would be easier to do HT bypass too. Just something I thought maybe you would want to consider since you are still shopping for a pre. |
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 19, 2010 19:15:03 GMT -5
Im currently using erc1. So whats the deal with passive preamp? I thought that active preamp do the same as volume control and input selelector? I am basically looking in a way to integrate a 2ch system in an AVR. I only have the avr for now, but im limit to preamp that are rated 220v. I noticed that you are looking at the Parasound preamps for your solution in adding a 2-channel sound system to your existing Marantz SR6400. Have you taken a good look at the Emotiva USP-1? It will easily integrate with your current AVR; and it is capable of running in a 220V environment. The ERC-1 CD player has great synergy with the USP-1. Many Lounge members have posted rave reviews for the world-class performance this combo offers. The USP-1 was selected by Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity as the best preamp during 2009. Just click on the link below to read their review. www.hometheaterhifi.com/preamplifiers/689-emotiva-usp-1-stereo-preamplifier.htmlEmotiva is running a Sale right now where you could get the USP-1 delivered to your door for only $359. This has got to be the best bargain in all of A/V. Emotiva's power amps compare very favorably to the Parasounds. You might want to do some research and check them out. It could save you some serious $$$. Good luck with your search. ;D |
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Post by ricardojoa on Jun 19, 2010 23:18:29 GMT -5
Im currently using erc1. So whats the deal with passive preamp? I thought that active preamp do the same as volume control and input selelector? I am basically looking in a way to integrate a 2ch system in an AVR. I only have the avr for now, but im limit to preamp that are rated 220v. I noticed that you are looking at the Parasound preamps for your solution in adding a 2-channel sound system to your existing Marantz SR6400. Have you taken a good look at the Emotiva USP-1? It will easily integrate with your current AVR; and it is capable of running in a 220V environment. The ERC-1 CD player has great synergy with the USP-1. Many Lounge members have posted rave reviews for the world-class performance this combo offers. The USP-1 was selected by Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity as the best preamp during 2009. Just click on the link below to read their review. www.hometheaterhifi.com/preamplifiers/689-emotiva-usp-1-stereo-preamplifier.htmlEmotiva is running a Sale right now where you could get the USP-1 delivered to your door for only $359. This has got to be the best bargain in all of A/V. Emotiva's power amps compare very favorably to the Parasounds. You might want to do some research and check them out. It could save you some serious $$$. Good luck with your search. ;D Yes i have considered the usp and either upa1 or 2. Unfortunately, im experiencing some issues with the ERC. The unit will ramdomly shut down on his own while playing. When it happend, it can happend quiet often, but when it doesnt, i can play music for long time. I contribute this to the slight voltage drop on the 220v, while is acceptable for electronics rated 220v, but for electronics that are not rated at this voltage, it will malfunction. I have consider voltage stabilizer but for the price of a good one, is going to cost me alot and i will be better off gettting the right unit instead of spending money on a voltage stabilzer. |
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Post by MikeWI on Jul 4, 2010 13:13:28 GMT -5
I noticed that you are looking at the Parasound preamps for your solution in adding a 2-channel sound system to your existing Marantz SR6400. Have you taken a good look at the Emotiva USP-1? It will easily integrate with your current AVR; and it is capable of running in a 220V environment. The ERC-1 CD player has great synergy with the USP-1. Many Lounge members have posted rave reviews for the world-class performance this combo offers. The USP-1 was selected by Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity as the best preamp during 2009. Just click on the link below to read their review. www.hometheaterhifi.com/preamplifiers/689-emotiva-usp-1-stereo-preamplifier.htmlEmotiva is running a Sale right now where you could get the USP-1 delivered to your door for only $359. This has got to be the best bargain in all of A/V. Emotiva's power amps compare very favorably to the Parasounds. You might want to do some research and check them out. It could save you some serious $$$. Good luck with your search. ;D Yes i have considered the usp and either upa1 or 2. Unfortunately, im experiencing some issues with the ERC. The unit will ramdomly shut down on his own while playing. When it happend, it can happend quiet often, but when it doesnt, i can play music for long time. I contribute this to the slight voltage drop on the 220v, while is acceptable for electronics rated 220v, but for electronics that are not rated at this voltage, it will malfunction. I have consider voltage stabilizer but for the price of a good one, is going to cost me alot and i will be better off gettting the right unit instead of spending money on a voltage stabilzer. If you have a major voltage problem, then it might not be an Emotiva problem. Have you talked to Emotiva? Has other gear before this failed in this way? Mike |
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Post by krellion on Jul 13, 2010 23:06:43 GMT -5
A couple options to consider, what I do, I have two complete systems, one for HT and a two channel, they share the main left/right speakers. What I do is connect the speaker cables from which ever system I want to listen to. If you have easy access it's not a big deal with banana plugs. So if I'm done watching a movie and want to listen to stereo I just disconnect the cables from back of speaker and connect the cables from the stereo.
Another thing you can do if the preamp has a tape monitor run your main preamp outputs from your Marantz into the tape in, when watching a movie the tape monitor will have to be on. Your mains will always be connected to the two channel amp. The drawback is when watching movies all this gear will need to be on. You'll have to recalibrate your speaker levels once all is set up too.
You should also consider integrated amps which feature a theater bypass. I know Krell features a "theater through".
Have you ever thought of getting a high end preamp processor? If not, Emo, look at the Rotel or Marantz.
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