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Post by NorthStar on Jul 17, 2010 11:54:05 GMT -5
^ Cool Martin, but Alan has the Pioneer Elite SC-27 with Advanced MCACC from Air Studios at Abbey Road in London.  |
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Post by beekermartin on Jul 17, 2010 12:35:34 GMT -5
^ Cool Martin, but Alan has the Pioneer Elite SC-27 with Advanced MCACC from Air Studios at Abbey Road in London.  Ok, I'll bite. What does that mean? It is still just a room correction, speaker setup program right? |
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 17, 2010 12:49:32 GMT -5
^ Cool Martin, but Alan has the Pioneer Elite SC-27 with Advanced MCACC from Air Studios at Abbey Road in London. Ok, I'll bite. What does that mean? It is still just a room correction, speaker setup program right? It's Pioneer affiliation and cooperation with Abbey Road Studios in London, England (Air Studios) for implementing their own Auto Room Calibration and Equalization system into their receivers. Just Google "Advanced MCACC" from Pioneer's Website and you'll get a full demo (video) of it!  * Here: @ www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/42/98/tech/AVAmplifierReceiver/AF_MCACC.html-> Just click on " See how MCACC works". _____________________________________ Another one: @ www.pioneer.eu/files/eur/MCACC/index.html |
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Post by beekermartin on Jul 17, 2010 13:09:09 GMT -5
Ok, I'll bite. What does that mean? It is still just a room correction, speaker setup program right? It's Pioneer affiliation and cooperation with Abbey Road Studios in London, England (Air Studios) for implementing their own Auto Room Calibration and Equalization system into their receivers. Just Google "Advanced MCACC" from Pioneer's Website and you'll get a full demo (video) of it! I understand what it is but does it do anything different that would make my post irrelevant? I guess I'll have to read a bit more about it to find out. |
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 17, 2010 13:19:30 GMT -5
It's Pioneer affiliation and cooperation with Abbey Road Studios in London, England (Air Studios) for implementing their own Auto Room Calibration and Equalization system into their receivers. Just Google "Advanced MCACC" from Pioneer's Website and you'll get a full demo (video) of it! I understand what it is but does it do anything different that would make my post irrelevant? I guess I'll have to read a bit more about it to find out. Nah, it's just that Alan (our OP) has that Advanced MCACC in his receiver, and not Audyssey, that's all. Your post is perfectly valid, actually great as it provides the other option of using an Auto Room EQ system by choosing "Stereo Audio" mode with the Subwoofer engaged too, as opposed to "Pure Audio" mode without the Auto Room EQ and Subwoofer engaged. It's all about personal preference, but it's nice to have several options to choose from right? See Martin, that's all what I meant. |
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Post by beekermartin on Jul 17, 2010 13:44:10 GMT -5
I understand what it is but does it do anything different that would make my post irrelevant? I guess I'll have to read a bit more about it to find out. Nah, it's just that Alan (our OP) has that Advanced MCACC in his receiver, and not Audyssey, that's all. Your post is perfectly valid, actually great as it provides the other option of using an Auto Room EQ system by choosing "Stereo Audio" mode with the Subwoofer engaged too, as opposed to "Pure Audio" mode without the Auto Room EQ and Subwoofer engaged. It's all about personal preference, but it's nice to have several options to choose from right? See Martin, that's all what I meant. I thought so but I wasn't sure. Don't get me wrong, I do like the way direct/pure audio mode sounds in my setup. I just prefer stereo mode. The bass in direct/pure audio can be a bit over powering with certain music. Stereo mode use Audyssey's room correction to blend the bass with the music. Which is the way I prefer it for most of the music I listen to. If I was a "Hip Hop" fan, which I am NOT, then the more bass the merrier. |
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Post by audioalan on Jul 19, 2010 1:11:42 GMT -5
After flipping back and forth about a dozen times, the winner is.... (drumroll please) .... the XPA-2! I even submitted my pre-order in time to get the sale price too. :-)
I decided that the SC-27 probably has plenty of power to run the center and surrounds (especially since I'm now running them crossed over at 80 hz). Just taking the two main channels away from the SC-27 should give it that extra bit of headroom I'm looking for, so the 5 Channel XPA-5 is probably unnecessary at this point. The final thing that tipped it for we was the decision to make the Polk 2.3's sound "as good as possible" in 2-channel model. From looking at the specs, it sounds like the XPA-2 is in a whole different league than the XPA-5, so I think the Polk 2.3's should really benefit from the higher calibur amp. (Even if I do have to hold the XPA-2 back a little while I'm in surround mode, I should be able to take full advantage of the XPA-2's power when I switch to 2-channel direct mode).
Thanks again for all the advice, knowledge sharing, and banter everyone!
Alan
P.S. I'll post a follow-up in a month or so after I receive the XPA-2 and get it setup/configured in my system.
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 19, 2010 1:54:03 GMT -5
After flipping back and forth about a dozen times, the winner is.... (drumroll please) .... the XPA-2! I even submitted my pre-order in time to get the sale price too. :-) I decided that the SC-27 probably has plenty of power to run the center and surrounds (especially since I'm now running them crossed over at 80 hz). Just taking the two main channels away from the SC-27 should give it that extra bit of headroom I'm looking for, so the 5 Channel XPA-5 is probably unnecessary at this point. The final thing that tipped it for we was the decision to make the Polk 2.3's sound "as good as possible" in 2-channel model. From looking at the specs, it sounds like the XPA-2 is in a whole different league than the XPA-5, so I think the Polk 2.3's should really benefit from the higher calibur amp. (Even if I do have to hold the XPA-2 back a little while I'm in surround mode, I should be able to take full advantage of the XPA-2's power when I switch to 2-channel direct mode). Thanks again for all the advice, knowledge sharing, and banter everyone! Alan P.S. I'll post a follow-up in a month or so after I receive the XPA-2 and get it setup/configured in my system. Alan, this is the best post I've read today! ...And I must have read over a thousand since 6:00 AM this morning. Sincerest Congratulations! Bob |
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Post by audioalan on Jul 19, 2010 10:35:02 GMT -5
Bob - I had a feeling you'd like my decision! :-D
Quick question regarding adding the XPA-2 to my setup. Do the SC-27 and XPA-2 have the same gain structure? I would assume someone would have mentioned this if it was going to be a problem, but I really can't find much on the subject...
To setup I just pre-out from the SC-27 into the XPA-2 (plus move the speaker conections), and then run MCACC and/or pull out a db meter to level match, right? Anything else?
Thanks,
Alan
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Post by beekermartin on Jul 19, 2010 11:50:59 GMT -5
Bob - I had a feeling you'd like my decision! :-D Quick question regarding adding the XPA-2 to my setup. Do the SC-27 and XPA-2 have the same gain structure? I would assume someone would have mentioned this if it was going to be a problem, but I really can't find much on the subject... To setup I just pre-out from the SC-27 into the XPA-2 (plus move the speaker conections), and then run MCACC and/or pull out a db meter to level match, right? Anything else? Thanks, Alan That is correct. Run MCACC then double check the levels with a DB meter. There should be enough range within the Pioneer to match the levels perfectly. Congratulations on your choice. I am sure you will be very happy with the XPA-2! I was listening to music for a few hours last night. I switch back in forth between 2 channel and surround using PLXii. For most music I still prefer 2 channel. |
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 19, 2010 15:26:54 GMT -5
Bob - I had a feeling you'd like my decision! :-D Quick question regarding adding the XPA-2 to my setup. Do the SC-27 and XPA-2 have the same gain structure? I would assume someone would have mentioned this if it was going to be a problem, but I really can't find much on the subject... To setup I just pre-out from the SC-27 into the XPA-2 (plus move the speaker conections), and then run MCACC and/or pull out a db meter to level match, right? Anything else? Thanks, Alan That is correct. Run MCACC then double check the levels with a DB meter. There should be enough range within the Pioneer to match the levels perfectly. Congratulations on your choice. I am sure you will be very happy with the XPA-2! I was listening to music for a few hours last night. I switch back in forth between 2 channel and surround using PLXii. For most music I still prefer 2 channel. +1 ...Just like Martin said Alan. |
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Post by audioalan on Jul 19, 2010 16:31:11 GMT -5
Cool, thanks for the confirmation, guys. I can't wait! Although it looks like I'm going to have to since they are back ordered right now. :-(
Alan
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 19, 2010 17:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jul 19, 2010 18:15:44 GMT -5
After flipping back and forth about a dozen times, the winner is.... (drumroll please) .... the XPA-2! I even submitted my pre-order in time to get the sale price too. :-) I decided that the SC-27 probably has plenty of power to run the center and surrounds (especially since I'm now running them crossed over at 80 hz). Just taking the two main channels away from the SC-27 should give it that extra bit of headroom I'm looking for, so the 5 Channel XPA-5 is probably unnecessary at this point. The final thing that tipped it for we was the decision to make the Polk 2.3's sound "as good as possible" in 2-channel model. From looking at the specs, it sounds like the XPA-2 is in a whole different league than the XPA-5, so I think the Polk 2.3's should really benefit from the higher calibur amp. (Even if I do have to hold the XPA-2 back a little while I'm in surround mode, I should be able to take full advantage of the XPA-2's power when I switch to 2-channel direct mode). Thanks again for all the advice, knowledge sharing, and banter everyone! Alan P.S. I'll post a follow-up in a month or so after I receive the XPA-2 and get it setup/configured in my system. Alan, this is the best post I've read today! ...And I must have read over a thousand since 6:00 AM this morning. Sincerest Congratulations! Bob What?!!  Wou must have missed the brilliant post I wrote? Mariza will be very disappointed  |
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Post by NorthStar on Jul 19, 2010 18:47:37 GMT -5
Alan, this is the best post I've read today! ...And I must have read over a thousand since 6:00 AM this morning. Sincerest Congratulations! Bob What?!! Wou must have missed the brilliant post I wrote? Mariza will be very disappointed Which one was that Erwin? ...Mariza's your wife? ...Luv the name. |
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Post by audioalan on Jul 20, 2010 10:53:11 GMT -5
The more you wait for good things in life, the better they taste when they get to you. Yeah, but my Polk 2.3's are starving! |
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Post by UT-Driven on Jul 20, 2010 12:27:54 GMT -5
The more you wait for good things in life, the better they taste when they get to you. Yeah, but my Polk 2.3's are starving! I hope that your speakers don't belch loudly after an all you can eat buffet from the XPA-2. Doug |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 13:35:55 GMT -5
The ICE amps on the 27 are extremely good for a receiver. Good choice IMO
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Post by UT-Driven on Jul 20, 2010 16:40:38 GMT -5
The ICE amps on the 27 are extremely good for a receiver. Good choice IMO Yes, I am really enjoying mine too. Doug |
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Post by audioalan on Jul 20, 2010 17:37:50 GMT -5
The ICE amps on the 27 are extremely good for a receiver. Good choice IMO Yes, I am really enjoying mine too. Doug I completely agree with you guys. When I bought the SC-27, I was amazed at how much of an upgrade it was over my older pioneer (both in power and sound quality). However, now that I've added some 6 ohm speakers to my setup, I feel like I'm right on the edge of my power limits.... enter the XPA-2! ;D I'll definitely give you guys my opinion after I get it in-house.... just in case any of you have an extra $700-800 burning a hole in your pocket too. lol Alan |
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Ok, I'll bite. What does that mean? It is still just a room correction, speaker setup program right? 
