Usp-1

[saturnx]

I recently acquired A Usp-1 threw the Emporium. I'm wondering about the bass management and how it works. To run my ultra sub 12 I'm using the RCA outputs, Setting the high pass to about 80Hz. My 6.2's are connected to the full range RCA output. My question is If i was to set the high pass to 100 Hz does that mean I'm not getting up to 100 Hz output through the full range outputs? The reason I ask this I was thinking about selling my 6.2's and stepping up to the 8.3's. I'd love send 80Hz to the sub and complete full range to the 8.3's as well. Is this possible? I guess i'm asking if it's possible to overlap the freq. for an even fuller and richer sound.

Thanks
Steve

[jackfish]

The full range outputs always receive a full range signal. For the high pass filter to work, you must use the high pass outputs. Usually using bass management requires some experimentation. Sometimes running the loudspeakers full range and having the subwoofer pick up the lower octaves works well. Sometimes it will sound better using the high pass filter. Just play around with it to see what sounds best.

My speakers are rated down to 50 Hz -3dB. I have them hooked up to the high pass outputs which is set at 50 Hz. I have the subwoofer hooked up to the LP/SUB output and the low pass filter set to 50 Hz. I've tried many different combinations and settled on this one.

[klinemj]

Also, if you want to use the USP-1 in combination with a Home Theater (a multichannel system), you MUST use the high pass/low pass outputs. The HT Bypass does not allow use of the full range outs.

On overlapping the signal as you mention, if you did...fuller, richer...? Likely. Too hot on bass...also likely.

Most find it best to cut their fronts so they don't run so far down, and let the sub do the work in the low frequencies. Then, the fronts are free to sing at frequencies they sing best.

[Deleted]

Aug 29, 2010 18:58:40 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Too hot on bass...also likely.

Most find it best to cut their fronts so they don't run so far down, and let the sub do the work in the low frequencies. Then, the fronts are free to sing at frequencies they sing best.

+1

[red5ive]

Aug 29, 2010 18:58:40 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Also, if you want to use the USP-1 in combination with a Home Theater (a multichannel system), you MUST use the high pass/low pass outputs. The HT Bypass does not allow use of the full range outs.

On overlapping the signal as you mention, if you did...fuller, richer...? Likely. Too hot on bass...also likely.

Most find it best to cut their fronts so they don't run so far down, and let the sub do the work in the low frequencies. Then, the fronts are free to sing at frequencies they sing best.

Thanks for the info. I was going to order a USP-1 tomorrow, but after reading this I now have a couple of questions.

1) If HT Bypass only runs through the HP/LP output, can I still use the 50 Hz LP and 50 Hz HP filters, or is the HT Bypass fixed at 80 Hz since it's, well, a "bypass"?

2) If I did want to get full range for my mains for HT, is there any reason why I couldn't run my pre-pro's Main L/R output into say the Auxiliary input of the USP-1 and use that input for HT? I don't use my sub for anything but HT.

Thanks...

[saturnx]

I see your point in letting my fronts sing in their intended range. But if They are full range speakers say 40hz to 20khz it is still recommended to set the sub at 80hz? And by doing so is it safe to say that the full range output is no longer full range? In other words if I set my sub up at 200hz my fronts wont see anything below 200hz?

Thanks!

[stuofsci02]

Aug 29, 2010 23:57:19 GMT -5 red5ive said:

Aug 29, 2010 18:58:40 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Also, if you want to use the USP-1 in combination with a Home Theater (a multichannel system), you MUST use the high pass/low pass outputs. The HT Bypass does not allow use of the full range outs.

On overlapping the signal as you mention, if you did...fuller, richer...? Likely. Too hot on bass...also likely.

Most find it best to cut their fronts so they don't run so far down, and let the sub do the work in the low frequencies. Then, the fronts are free to sing at frequencies they sing best.

Thanks for the info. I was going to order a USP-1 tomorrow, but after reading this I now have a couple of questions.

1) If HT Bypass only runs through the HP/LP output, can I still use the 50 Hz LP and 50 Hz HP filters, or is the HT Bypass fixed at 80 Hz since it's, well, a "bypass"?

2) If I did want to get full range for my mains for HT, is there any reason why I couldn't run my pre-pro's Main L/R output into say the Auxiliary input of the USP-1 and use that input for HT? I don't use my sub for anything but HT.

Thanks...

If you do not use your sub for music and want full range output for your speakers but do use your sub in HT bypass then the USP-1 is not for you... This also applies if you have no sub.

I had this exact problem and hummed and hawed about what to do. I finally decided to get the USP-1 and just use my subs for music while I wait for the XSP-1..

[wizardofoz]

you can set the HP and LP at whatever you like (50-250Hz) independently of each other so set the sub at say 100 and your mains at 75 if you like... whatever gives you the best mix and sound...of course you can also set how hot the sub is on the sub amp.

[paintedklown]

Aug 31, 2010 7:34:43 GMT -5 stuofsci02 said:

Aug 29, 2010 23:57:19 GMT -5 red5ive said:

Thanks for the info. I was going to order a USP-1 tomorrow, but after reading this I now have a couple of questions.

1) If HT Bypass only runs through the HP/LP output, can I still use the 50 Hz LP and 50 Hz HP filters, or is the HT Bypass fixed at 80 Hz since it's, well, a "bypass"?

2) If I did want to get full range for my mains for HT, is there any reason why I couldn't run my pre-pro's Main L/R output into say the Auxiliary input of the USP-1 and use that input for HT? I don't use my sub for anything but HT.

Thanks...

If you do not use your sub for music and want full range output for your speakers but do use your sub in HT bypass then the USP-1 is not for you... This also applies if you have no sub.

I had this exact problem and hummed and hawed about what to do. I finally decided to get the USP-1 and just use my subs for music while I wait for the XSP-1..

Hmmm...I was unaware of this until this thread. Thanks for the heads up. Any info regarding the street date/price/features/specs for the XSP-1?