woodworker
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Post by woodworker on Sept 8, 2010 20:55:01 GMT -5
When I have Shutdown lockups the remote (plastic &/or Harmony) have no effect on the UMC-1 UNLESS I use the remote instead of my finger to flick the on/off switch on the rear... LOL ;D See, I knew that your UMC would respond to the remote when it was locked up. It's just a matter of how you look at it.
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Post by visiter555 on Sept 9, 2010 15:24:12 GMT -5
When I have Shutdown lockups the remote (plastic &/or Harmony) have no effect on the UMC-1 UNLESS I use the remote instead of my finger to flick the on/off switch on the rear... LOL ;D See, I knew that your UMC would respond to the remote when it was locked up. It's just a matter of how you look at it. I usually look at it with a flashlight. Not as bad as Panasonic (who thought up using black writing on a black plastic box? ), but getting harder and harder to read. Might be my eyesight, but... LOL
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Post by oldnickt on Sept 10, 2010 9:29:47 GMT -5
One shutdown failure so far with new firmware. Tv shut off first, then UMC-1 and cable box left on.
Only used the new version of firmware 4 times so 1 in 4 is not very good...
Connections are HDMI in and out.
Box powered UP from front button and the DOWN properly from front button.
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woodworker
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Post by woodworker on Sept 10, 2010 14:42:48 GMT -5
One shutdown failure so far with new firmware. Tv shut off first, then UMC-1 and cable box left on. Only used the new version of firmware 4 times so 1 in 4 is not very good... Connections are HDMI in and out. Box powered UP from front button and the DOWN properly from front button. What equipment is attached to your UMC oldnickt? Thanks.
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Post by oldnickt on Sept 10, 2010 23:01:18 GMT -5
One shutdown failure so far with new firmware. Tv shut off first, then UMC-1 and cable box left on. Only used the new version of firmware 4 times so 1 in 4 is not very good... Connections are HDMI in and out. Box powered UP from front button and the DOWN properly from front button. What equipment is attached to your UMC oldnickt? Thanks. It happened with just the Timewarner cable box and the Samsung series 5 lcd tv. Also happened when I had the cable box, Oppo DVD and WD TV box hooked in. Does not seem to matter which is active at the time. This last lockup was with only the cable box, UMC and TV powered up. Cable box is a motorola dual tuner dvr. Getting very tired of the lack of fixes of this and the center channel drop out.
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Post by Mischief on Sept 12, 2010 14:53:46 GMT -5
I am wondering if the center channel drop is a hardware issue. I haven't had any complaints about drops from the ones I have installed or the ones in my house.
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Post by stiehl11 on Sept 12, 2010 16:10:21 GMT -5
I am wondering if the center channel drop is a hardware issue. I haven't had any complaints about drops from the ones I have installed or the ones in my house. My center channel dropouts were 100% related to hardware that was external to the UMC-1. It would be nice to see if all the dropouts were with HDMI. Lonnie mentioned something at Emofest about this issue and it would be interesting to see the results.
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Post by 1stOnRaceDay on Sept 13, 2010 11:58:32 GMT -5
I have the same symptoms as Woodworker. Never noticed it before I installed the new 014 Firmware. (I never installed V6 at all.)
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Post by woodworker on Sept 13, 2010 16:23:37 GMT -5
It seems like a couple of people have mentioned that they never had shutdown lockups BEFORE they first updated their firmware. I never had them personally before the first update that I installed.
Sorry if this is already answered above but I scanned for it and did not find answers... Is there anyone posting here that had the shutdown lockup problem with the firmware that came pre-installed on their UMC-1?
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Post by willfixit on Sept 15, 2010 18:25:07 GMT -5
I've never had a shutdown lockup. Not once. However...I do wonder about line noise versus voltage sag, and here is why; I have two dedicated 20a circuits on independent breakers. On one is anything "pure analog" on the other, anything digital. When I turn on the 4 tube florescent light fixture in the adjacent kitchen (on its own circuit) I ALWAYS get a brief drop of all audio (split second) in any mode at any time. Repeatable, at any time.
Odd.
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Post by Mischief on Sept 15, 2010 19:54:38 GMT -5
I've never had a shutdown lockup. Not once. However...I do wonder about line noise versus voltage sag, and here is why; I have two dedicated 20a circuits on independent breakers. On one is anything "pure analog" on the other, anything digital. When I turn on the 4 tube florescent light fixture in the adjacent kitchen (on its own circuit) I ALWAYS get a brief drop of all audio (split second) in any mode at any time. Repeatable, at any time. Odd. A dedicated line is still subject to the pull coming into the box unless you have a dedicated power run just for them from the pole.
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Post by scott66 on Sept 16, 2010 8:38:12 GMT -5
Woodworker, I've had 2 shutdown lockups in the 6 months or so I have had the UMC-1 and both were with the factory installed v5 code. I have installed every beta software release available and have not experienced a lockup with any of the beta versions.
Scott
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Post by ÈlTwo on Sept 16, 2010 11:07:11 GMT -5
I've not responded to this poll yet, since I won't be able to do the upgrade till either this evening or tomorrow.
I do experience partial shutdown failures currently (fixed by turning back on using my URC Remote, changing inuputs, then shutting down again).
After the update I do intend to change the shutdown order to have the UMC shutdown first; I will post my results after a few days of use.
I hope this thread is kept open for a while, since the clock just started Monday.
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Post by oldnickt on Sept 16, 2010 11:15:53 GMT -5
I am wondering if the center channel drop is a hardware issue. I haven't had any complaints about drops from the ones I have installed or the ones in my house. My center channel dropouts were 100% related to hardware that was external to the UMC-1. It would be nice to see if all the dropouts were with HDMI. Lonnie mentioned something at Emofest about this issue and it would be interesting to see the results. I had center channel drop out with optical for the audio (though I was using the HDMI for the video)
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Post by ÈlTwo on Sept 17, 2010 11:06:57 GMT -5
I've learned one important thing: don't start the update process after midnight!
Flashing went okay, some odd things, and one glitch. In doing the first two updates, the update would start, the blue line would grow a little, and then it would start again.
For the last step I got the dreaded failure message, shut off the UMC power switch again, re-powered it, and the last step went fine.
Re-connected, but did the typical "I'm so tired" and connected the speakers to the inputs on the UMC, so it didn't work right, but went to bed.
Got up this morning, realized what I had done, and quickly changed them to the speaker outputs (but since I rushed, connected them to the wrong outputs). Had breakfast, and coffee, and connected things correctly.
Still have to change the shutdown order, and completely restore my settings, but everything looks good so far.
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Post by turbo227x on Sept 21, 2010 8:32:34 GMT -5
I seem to have bit bigger issue, it seems after my last shutdown that the UMC is not responding to any kind of startup input, whether it be amber on button or remote. I have tried the main power switch, but it is being complete non-responsive to turning on after switching the main power off, then . I never did update the firmware, because my computer and UMC never did like communicating to one another. Any thoughts on the problem? I have really enjoy this product and support from Emotiva, just want to getting functioning again. Looks like it might be a lunch tech session with Emotiva.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Sept 21, 2010 8:34:41 GMT -5
Have you tried the "initial reset" mentioned in the manual where you flip the switch and then hold the power button for 5 seconds? Could be worth a shot.
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Post by turbo227x on Sept 21, 2010 12:49:11 GMT -5
Went home for lunch and tried the 5 second reset/initialization and the UMC did nothing but sit there and stare right back at me. Any other ideas?
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Post by willfixit on Sept 21, 2010 19:18:05 GMT -5
I've never had a shutdown lockup. Not once. However...I do wonder about line noise versus voltage sag, and here is why; I have two dedicated 20a circuits on independent breakers. On one is anything "pure analog" on the other, anything digital. When I turn on the 4 tube florescent light fixture in the adjacent kitchen (on its own circuit) I ALWAYS get a brief drop of all audio (split second) in any mode at any time. Repeatable, at any time. Odd. A dedicated line is still subject to the pull coming into the box unless you have a dedicated power run just for them from the pole. Absolutely agree; I've done a couple high end installs where we had our own dedicated pole drop and panel just for the A/V room. However... Brand new wiring throughout the house (gutted 140 year old building), new 200 amp panel and a brand new drop from the pole 220v split to each side of the box. I have observed NO anomalies anywhere in the entire house for anything electrically related no matter what I run over the last 4-5 years. The light happens to be on a shared circuit with my refrigerator - when it kicks on the UMC isn't aware of its existence. But the measly 4 tube ceiling light hits it every time. That is why I suspect noise could be as much a culprit as sag...
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Post by BassThatHz on Sept 22, 2010 20:00:47 GMT -5
I'm running W7.01.00.13 and it does it every now and then. When it happens it normally requires a disconnect of the main power.
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