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Post by topcat on Dec 2, 2010 17:29:10 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that no has mentioned it yet...is there going to be a Manual to follow? Granted, it is not rocket science to use this beautiful piece of equipment but I would like a Users/Owners Manual. Thomas
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Post by charlie7 on Dec 2, 2010 18:10:17 GMT -5
You just beat me to it! I just received my XDA today and was surprised to find no manual inside. I was hoping to find something definitive in a manual as to the capabilities of the USB connection. Although I did see one poster state it was only capable of 16/48 as evidenced by their use of the unit.
Charlie
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Post by carlp336 on Dec 12, 2010 14:29:52 GMT -5
bump. just got around to opening mine no manual
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Post by cawgijoe on Dec 12, 2010 16:17:26 GMT -5
I asked Emo about this and Vincent sent me a softcopy of the manual.
I'm not sure if it wasn't ready for print or what.
I can't seem to copy it in here..........either show me a "how-to" or send me a message and I can get it to you.
I've also asked Vincent via e-mail to post a pdf on the website.
I'll be back in a couple hours.....have to run out........I will get back to you if you PM me with your e-mail address.
Thanks
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 12, 2010 16:18:36 GMT -5
This is the very first time in my life that I've purchased a piece of electronic equipment and/or audio gear w/o an applicable manual.
Though I appreciate the overall mission of the Emotiva business model, I find this issue to deliver a consumer product w/o manual as unacceptable.
It appears to me as an issue of corporate objectivity and focus, quantity versus quality, and too many products in the pipeline.
It is also my belief that a manufacturer's owners manual provides the intended operating parameters of an electronic/electrical product according to the will of manufacturer.
If it is true that Emotiva Corp. provided absolutely no manual with the boxed product, I would find that kinda sloppy and though I'm no attorney, such practice could serve as an invitation to a lawsuit awarded to a purchaser w/o common sense.
Please offer a PDF version ASAP. Thank-you!
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Post by pdaddy on Dec 12, 2010 19:57:36 GMT -5
What I see is a company that had MANY of it's fans and faithful asking to get their hands on an XDA asap. I think perhaps shipping it without the latest manual specs may have been a tough decision, but one of relatively low risk and in the best interest of the customes as I bet nearly all who bought it on first shipment are quite capable of knowing how to hook it up. If there were any questions, what's great is Emotiva's very responsive customer service and tech staff. I am okay with getting an emailed or posted manual later if it meant that I was going to get my XDA faster. If any of you who bought one are un-satisfied with it as it does not have a manual, luckily Emotiva has a very liberal return policy and I urge you to return it quickly and there is quite a line of folks who would gladly take it off your hands.
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 12, 2010 20:09:47 GMT -5
This is the very first time in my life that I've purchased a piece of electronic equipment and/or audio gear w/o an applicable manual. Though I appreciate the overall mission of the Emotiva business model, I find this issue to deliver a consumer product w/o manual as unacceptable. It appears to me as an issue of corporate objectivity and focus, quantity versus quality, and too many products in the pipeline. It is also my belief that a manufacturer's owners manual provides the intended operating parameters of an electronic/electrical product according to the will of manufacturer. If it is true that Emotiva Corp. provided absolutely no manual with the boxed product, I would find that kinda sloppy and though I'm no attorney, such practice could serve as an invitation to a lawsuit awarded to a purchaser w/o common sense. Please offer a PDF version ASAP. Thank-you! If it has your panties in that big of a wad, send it back.
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 12, 2010 21:41:59 GMT -5
This is the very first time in my life that I've purchased a piece of electronic equipment and/or audio gear w/o an applicable manual. Though I appreciate the overall mission of the Emotiva business model, I find this issue to deliver a consumer product w/o manual as unacceptable. It appears to me as an issue of corporate objectivity and focus, quantity versus quality, and too many products in the pipeline. It is also my belief that a manufacturer's owners manual provides the intended operating parameters of an electronic/electrical product according to the will of manufacturer. If it is true that Emotiva Corp. provided absolutely no manual with the boxed product, I would find that kinda sloppy and though I'm no attorney, such practice could serve as an invitation to a lawsuit awarded to a purchaser w/o common sense. Please offer a PDF version ASAP. Thank-you! If it has your panties in that big of a wad, send it back. edited Furthermore, in clarification Mr. Wilco, I believe in safety first, over speed in delivery, and before corporate profit, and last, leadership by example.
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Post by CrazyBlue on Dec 12, 2010 22:51:18 GMT -5
I've been sitting back and waiting to see what happened and how things shaped up with the XDA-1 before I put down my cash.
I think poodleluvr, "panties in a wad" and all, has a point. Rushing a product to market prematurely, without even including a user manual or confirming that it does exactly what it is supposed to do, in the manner it is supposed to do it, just because a few dozen people on this forum are screaming to get their hands on one, may not be the best way to go.
I'm dying to get this DAC into my system, along with a pair of UPA-1's. But I learned long ago that good things come to those who wait, to give a tired old cliche a few more whacks.
So here we are.
I'm on the reserve list, but unless the volume issue has been addressed and corrected by the time my name comes up, I'll probably pass and wait some more until it has, because my intention has been to use this unit as a digital preamp from the start.
I understand the eagerness, but are we adults or are we spoiled children?
Give Dan and Lonnie and the gang a break and let them do what they do and let them take the time to make sure everything is right and good instead of exerting all the pressure. They're already giving us products that rival or better electronics costing much more.
And Emotiva, we'll be here with our money in hand when the products are ready. No need to rush so. You have a good thing going here and I'd hate to see your reputation for quality and customer service suffer because a few folks lack patience. Take your time and they will come.
Hell, they're already here.
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Post by carlp336 on Dec 12, 2010 23:05:05 GMT -5
being a umc owner with no solid manual either. ive come to accept the fact that im waiting for it.
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 12, 2010 23:05:40 GMT -5
I've been sitting back and waiting to see what happened and how things shaped up with the XDA-1 before I put down my cash. I think poodleluvr, "panties in a wad" and all, has a point. Rushing a product to market prematurely, without even including a user manual or confirming that it does exactly what it is supposed to do, in the manner it is supposed to do it, just because a few dozen people on this forum are screaming to get their hands on one, may not be the best way to go. I'm dying to get this DAC into my system, along with a pair of UPA-1's. But I learned long ago that good things come to those who wait, to give a tired old cliche a few more whacks. So here we are. I'm on the reserve list, but unless the volume issue has been addressed and corrected by the time my name comes up, I'll probably pass and wait some more until it has, because my intention has been to use this unit as a digital preamp from the start. I understand the eagerness, but are we adults or are we spoiled children? Give Dan and Lonnie and the gang a break and let them do what they do and let them take the time to make sure everything is right and good instead of exerting all the pressure. They're already giving us products that rival or better electronics costing much more. And Emotiva, we'll be here with our money in hand when the products are ready. No need to rush so. You have a good thing going here and I'd hate to see your reputation for quality and customer service suffer because a few folks lack patience. Take your time and they will come. Hell, they're already here. Thanks Crazy4Blues! By the way, for the record, I asked for the manual previously: "Re: Has the XDA-1 shipped yet?" "Result #10 on Nov 29, 2010, 2:35pm" "Meanwhile, how about a pdf file of the XDA-1 manual?" I figured I would read up on the pdf manual before shipment. By the way, when I received the XDA-1, I de-boxed it, let it warm-up to room temperature for 6 hours to remove any possible chance of condensation in a room with a dehumidifier, and then plugged the unit in for 3 hours to warm-up before the first listen.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Dec 12, 2010 23:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 13, 2010 6:01:59 GMT -5
Steve We already have several owners confirm that the XDA-1 DOES output 24/192 via the USB connection. Are you sure your name is not Thomas, as in "doubting Thomas" ??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2010 6:37:09 GMT -5
I thought I just heard a "beep-beep."
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 13, 2010 6:52:39 GMT -5
I thought I just heard a "beep-beep." My, what big ears you have. Ah, the better to hear you with. Me thinks some "Pacific Northwest" nut has been reading too many fairytales and cartoons.
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Post by cawgijoe on Dec 13, 2010 8:11:16 GMT -5
Where did that come from? I'm pretty sure I hadn't seen this document prior to ordering, but somewhere I thought I remembered reading that the Dim function had the capability to turn all the display lights off completely. Well there it is on Page 10: " 4. PANEL DIM ButtonThe DIM button dims the display lights on your XDA-1. It has 5 settings that allow you to adjust the brightness to your liking or turn the display lights off completely" [/b]. That might be one reason why this manual was not included in shipment. Also in the Technical Specifications, it states that " Bit Depth: Standard bit depths up to 24Bit are supported at clock frequencies up to 192kHz" There is no differentiation between S/PDIF or USB inputs as to the maximum Bit Depth and Sample Rate, but I still don't believe that the USB input can do 24/192. Steve[/quote] I posted earlier in this thread that I had asked Emo about a manual and Vincent from Emo was kind enough to send one in pdf form to me right away. I believe it's not completed, because I did see a reference to the UMC-1 when they obviosly meant the XDA-1...also, there could very well be technical errors.....anyway, I'm happy to have it. cfelliott was kind enough to host and send the link. I understand some of the frustration, but it seems that you can't make everyone happy. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I love Emotiva as a company. They are dedicated and responsive. I don't see this with most other companies. Can they improve? Sure.....in this case a note stating that a manual would either be sent or a pdf provided later on would have helped and calmed the villagers down.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Dec 13, 2010 8:17:49 GMT -5
I posted earlier in this thread that I had asked Emo about a manual and Vincent from Emo was kind enough to send one in pdf form to me right away. I believe it's not completed, because I did see a reference to the UMC-1 when they obviosly meant the XDA-1...also, there could very well be technical errors.....anyway, I'm happy to have it. cfelliott was kind enough to host and send the link. I understand some of the frustration, but it seems that you can't make everyone happy. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I love Emotiva as a company. They are dedicated and responsive. I don't see this with most other companies. Can they improve? Sure.....in this case a note stating that a manual would either be sent or a pdf provided later on would have helped and calmed the villagers down. Yes, and thanks! I am sure this is preliminary. Also, if Emotiva has any problem with my hosting this, I will remove it!
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Post by ryan08 on Dec 13, 2010 15:53:34 GMT -5
My iphone didn't come with a manual and I would have to say it is much more complex to operate.
There is not much to the set-up of the XDA-1, but I would still like a manual to peruse.
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