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Post by NorthStar on Feb 23, 2011 20:19:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 20:24:07 GMT -5
I read the magazine article with much interest (old school, I know...I said a prayers for the trees.....)  . Does Anthem make an entry level pre/pro? For them, $2k is entry level.... |
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 23, 2011 20:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 20:28:21 GMT -5
The MRX 300 at $999. Five-channel receiver. How about just the pre/pro? Would rather spend the cash on the processor portion.... Prolly not.... Anthem pre/pros are sooooooo pricey. These receivers are quite refreshing, though. |
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 23, 2011 20:35:41 GMT -5
Allen, get the Anthem Statement D2v/ARC Surround Processor! ...Only $8,500 fully equipped with the latest Upgrades and Technologies! It has the Gennum VXP video processor, and can Upsample to 24/192. I'm sure you'll luv it! ...That is if your bank account is also in agreement with you!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 23:26:55 GMT -5
Allen, get the Anthem Statement D2v/ARC Surround Processor! ...Only $8,500 fully equipped with the latest Upgrades and Technologies! It has the Gennum VXP video processor, and can Upsample to 24/192. I'm sure you'll luv it! ...That is if your bank account is also in agreement with you! i should get two then.. need one for the garage HT.... |
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Post by Pauly on Feb 24, 2011 23:30:48 GMT -5
No, three of them. You need one for the bathroom as well. Don't be a cheap skate!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 23:33:06 GMT -5
No, three of them. You need one for the bathroom as well. Don't be a cheap skate! ;D |
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 24, 2011 23:40:11 GMT -5
I don't like the lab tests of the Anthem MRX 700 AV Receiver! About you guys? ...And no mention of ARC's performance from that review!  |
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Post by Pauly on Feb 25, 2011 0:06:11 GMT -5
Pretty interesting read, thanks Bob. It's good to know that Dolby Volume is worthless on the Anthem as well lol. This is my type of receiver. No nonsense, a great auto EQ(supposedly), great build quality, and sweet looks. It seems like the perfect AVR for somebody who doesn't want the typical Onkyo or Denon, and doesn't need the millions of features. Hopefully for Anthem's sake, it will turn out to be bug free and reliable.
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 25, 2011 0:08:16 GMT -5
Hey Pauly, it's a Canadian receiver buddy!  |
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Post by Pauly on Feb 25, 2011 0:10:07 GMT -5
I know it is, and that's good! I like you Canucks lol.
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 25, 2011 0:17:56 GMT -5
You better! ;D
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 25, 2011 10:41:04 GMT -5
Hey Pauly, it's a Canadian receiver buddy! Bob, I believe the Anthem receivers, not including the 900 are built in China as well? I read this review as well in Home Theater Magazine awhile back, and I have to admit I was expecting a bit of something more.  I've searched for some kind of indication that the ARC software that is in these is the same as the D2v and AV50v but no confirmation as of yet. I know their website states these receivers have ARC but never distinguishes between the processors and receivers, as I believe the ARC software used to be an option to buy on top of the processors. I would be surprised if it was. I must admit I've had my eye fixed on an AV50v since it was announced, and still do. |
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 25, 2011 11:24:08 GMT -5
Laurence, Indeed they are build in China but to Anthem Canada own's specifications! Same for Emo products. - Regarding the review; I can go into very deep details here, but it will take a lot of space because I will have to go beyond the electronic component reviews made by professional reviewers and what it all means! Very extensive explanations and correlations... No way Jose! For another time at another channel! - ARC as implemented in the Anthem MRX receivers series is NOT the same as in the Statement D2v/ARC Surround Processor! -> Those receivers DON'T have the same DSP processing power as in the Statement! It is NOT as sophisticated and elaborated! * We'll have to plunge beyond the reviews by professional reviewers and also MOST of the owners! ===>>> The people in the BEST KNOW, are the ones that compared the ARC as implemented in the MRX receivers DIRECTLY with Audyssey MultEQ XT (& XT32), and TRINNOV from other manufacturers! ...And also who did it in their OWN system setups! These people are very few! But more will be coming eventually, and you'll have to decipher for yourself what it all means! - Websites from manufacturers are giving you ONLY information that they WANT to give you! - I cannot remember about ARC being a programmable software from your computer (in parts perhaps, but you still need the DSP chips in your pre/pro); it might very well have been, or it could very well be eventually! - The AV50v had rave reviews from all over; but was also compared with other advanced products from Integra with Audyssey MultEQ XT32, and the Integras did excellent in Sound Quality! ______________________________________ Today (or late last night) I got frozen pipes! Because of the real cold weather! I got a big problem today! Furthermore, this morning I had an alert of "Blue Screen" on my computer! There are some bad apples from somewhere that are trying to access my personal informations! And viruses at an alarming high level have been downloaded into my PC!!! * I suspect two or three sources for this HUGE problem; and I am working right now with Microsoft in trying to locate the exact source! And when we do, MAJOR LEGAL actions will be taken! The world of the Internet is a very strange world indeed at times! It is NOT trouble-free, nothing is in this world of ours! The CIA in the United States of America (Langley) has some very sophisticated Satellite observation devices that can pinpoint with extreme accuracy, ANYONE on the planet, ANYWHERE, and at ANY GIVEN TIME! |
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Post by hammmerhead on Feb 25, 2011 12:58:20 GMT -5
Just read the review. I was expecting more from the test as well. A few folks here have been giving them glowing results I guess because they all own one. I dont know what the street prices are, but for what you get it seems like an aweful lot of money to spend on something that doesnt have the goods. Sorry, I just dont see it as anything but a way over priced, under featured boutique AVR.
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 25, 2011 13:16:14 GMT -5
Laurence, Indeed they are build in China but to Anthem Canada specifications! Same for Emo products. - Regarding the review; I can go into very deep details here, but it will take a lot of space because I will have to go beyond the electronic component reviews made by professional reviewers and what it all means! Very extensive explanations and correlations... No way Jose! For another time at another channel! - ARC as implemented in the Anthem MRX receivers series is NOT the same as in the Statement D2v/ARC Surround Processor! -> Those receivers DON'T have the same DSP processing power as in the Statement! It is NOT as sophisticated and elaborated! * We'll have to plunge beyond the reviews by professional reviewers and also MOST of the owners! ===>>> The people in the BEST KNOW, are the ones that compared the ARC as implemented in the MRX receivers DIRECTLY with Audyssey MultEQ XT (& XT32), and TRINNOV from other manufacturers! ...And also who did it in their OWN system setups! These people are very few! But more will be coming eventually, and you'll have to decipher for yourself what it all means! - Websites from manufacturers are giving you ONLY information that they WANT to give you! - I cannot remember about ARC being a programmable software from your computer (in parts perhaps, but you still need the DSP chips in your pre/pro); it might very well have been, or it could very well be eventually! - The AV50v had rave reviews from all over; but was also compared with other advanced products from Integra with Audyssey MultEQ XT32, and the Integras did excellent in Sound Quality! ______________________________________ Today (or late last night) I got frozen pipes! Because of the real cold weather! I got a big problem today! Furthermore, this morning I had an alert of "Blue Screen" on my computer! There are some bad apples from somewhere that are trying to access my personal informations! And viruses at an alarming high level have been downloaded into my PC!!! * I suspect two or three sources for this HUGE problem; and I am working right now with Microsoft in trying to locate the exact source! And when we do, MAJOR LEGAL actions will be taken! The world of the Internet is a very strange world indeed at times! It is NOT trouble-free, nothing is in this world of ours! The CIA in the United States of America (Langley) has some very sophisticated Satellite observation devices that can pinpoint with extreme accuracy, ANYONE on the planet, ANYWHERE, and at ANY GIVEN TIME! Bob, Thanks for clearing up the difference between the ARC in the processors as opposed to the new receivers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 14:54:17 GMT -5
It measures at pretty much what anthem said it would @90 watts with 5 channels driven at 1% and 87 watts @ .1%. At least they weren't bull pooping about the specs. I couldn't ever find what they stated the full 7 chl driven at full power would be, but the 43watts doesn't surprise me.
The price is much to high IMO and they are really putting themselves in a niche market with their pricing. This should have been $1100 street, on the lines with Denon 3311 and onkyo 1008 etc. They are not offering anything more than those receivers, other than the video processing and dac's being different. It's one of those thing where you're paying fore the name.
As for ARC, I understand it's "great" but since I'm not thrilled with audyssey and my JTR gear, I'm not even tempted by that feature.
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Post by hammmerhead on Feb 25, 2011 15:41:43 GMT -5
It measures at pretty much what anthem said it would @90 watts with 5 channels driven at 1% and 87 watts @ .1%. At least they weren't bull pooping about the specs. I couldn't ever find what they stated the full 7 chl driven at full power would be, but the 43watts doesn't surprise me. The price is much to high IMO and they are really putting themselves in a niche market with their pricing. This should have been $1100 street, on the lines with Denon 3311 and onkyo 1008 etc. They are not offering anything more than those receivers, other than the video processing and dac's being different. It's one of those thing where you're paying fore the name. As for ARC, I understand it's "great" but since I'm not thrilled with audyssey and my JTR gear, I'm not even tempted by that feature. Agreed. To be picky, the frequency response isnt up to par with the upper mainstream AVR's as well. The sucker needs to sound like a clean Mac amp to ask that kind of money for it. Too bad we cant see numbers like this out of it. Would be nice to have this kind of headroom out of a class A/B AVR. HT Labs Measures Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads: 0.1% distortion at 135.7 watts 1% distortion at 171.9 watts Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads: 0.1% distortion at 125.4 watts 1% distortion at 164.7 watts |
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 25, 2011 17:49:21 GMT -5
It measures at pretty much what anthem said it would @90 watts with 5 channels driven at 1% and 87 watts @ .1%. At least they weren't bull pooping about the specs. I couldn't ever find what they stated the full 7 chl driven at full power would be, but the 43watts doesn't surprise me. The price is much to high IMO and they are really putting themselves in a niche market with their pricing. This should have been $1100 street, on the lines with Denon 3311 and onkyo 1008 etc. They are not offering anything more than those receivers, other than the video processing and dac's being different. It's one of those thing where you're paying fore the name. As for ARC, I understand it's "great" but since I'm not thrilled with audyssey and my JTR gear, I'm not even tempted by that feature. Agreed. To be picky, the frequency response isnt up to par with the upper mainstream AVR's as well. The sucker needs to sound like a clean Mac amp to ask that kind of money for it. Too bad we cant see numbers like this out of it. Would be nice to have this kind of headroom out of a class A/B AVR. HT Labs Measures
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 135.7 watts
1% distortion at 171.9 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 125.4 watts
1% distortion at 164.7 watts Pioneer Elite SC-37. ______________________ * The Anthem MRX 700's Crosstalk figures are some of the very worse ever tabulated! (-73.01 dB & -72.06 dB) Also it's Frequency Response is VERY bad in the Stereo Mode at 50 Khz (without any DSP processing)!!! => minus 27.36 dB!!! And its THD+N is nothing to write home about: 0.023% Only its S/N ratio is good enough: -104.67 dB. It's power into 4 Ohm loads is also WEAK! Only a 25% increase over 8 Ohm loads! (...Even a receiver like the Pioneer VSX-1120 that retails for $749 can do at least 50%!) (And with Channel separation that is almost 20 dB better!!!) And only 43.9 watts into seven channels (8 Ohms, 0.1% THD and at 1 Khz) is also LAME! And its video processor has some weaknesses as well (just check it out)! And Features wise, this receiver is EMPTY! And Ergonomics wise, it is also SAD! And the reviewer TOTALLY omitted to mention the good & the bad about ARC!!! We know NOTHING! Nothing at all!!! Like you guys just said above; you pay a big premium just for the name! This receiver weighting only 35.4 pounds should not be more than $999 MSRP! And Anthem is not the best for power amps either! And that is well known! => Any Emotiva amp will eat this receiver for breakfast! And it will cost you about four times less! Make your own calculaltion now! And I bet that the UMC-1 is MUCHO BETTERO SOUNDINGO! ;D |
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I've searched for some kind of indication that the ARC software that is in these is the same as the D2v and AV50v but no confirmation as of yet. I know their website states these receivers have ARC but never distinguishes between the processors and receivers, as I believe the ARC software used to be an option to buy on top of the processors. I would be surprised if it was. I must admit I've had my eye fixed on an AV50v since it was announced, and still do.
