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Post by thielguy on Mar 22, 2011 10:53:01 GMT -5
I presently enjoy room correction with a Trinnov system - i.e think super Audyssey.
For a different set of speaker, much higher end than currently connected to the Trinnov reciever, I want to do:
source --> XDA-1 --> emotiva amps --> stereo only speakers
I just trying to get my head around how I'll feel missing the trinnov. To my ear, my present system sounds much better with room correction on.
But I really, really like the idea of going with the XDA instead of a reciever, and that would mean I will loose Trinnov.
Anyone have any thoughts? I'm not sure there's an answer without a/b - ing, but I'm hopeful for any input...
Thanks ;D
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Post by vishal on Mar 22, 2011 12:07:45 GMT -5
Hey thielguy,
I have never used a room correction system. So asking out of curiosity....
I can understand using it for surround sound (what with delay, relative vol, cutoff frequencies and what not to configure) but what can a room correction system do for stereo (2-ch) listening?
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Post by thielguy on Mar 22, 2011 13:10:13 GMT -5
very good question vishal...
I got a system with room correction for a room that I'm building out to be a 4.1 room w/ TV (phantom center). The room has many problems associated with being forced to use in-ceiling surrounds, etc. I'm using fronts that are backed against the walls, a seating position that is smack in front of a plate glass window, all under a weird sloped ceiling.
When listening two channel, I really like the difference - I'm not exactly sure what's going on - But I'm guessing trinnov is somehow correcting for some of these room and position problems, and maybe it's also doing better sub woofer intergratin than what I've done manually.
I think the xda - to amp - to speakeras route I plan for a "pure" two channel; listening enviroment - consider I spend the time to set things up right - will give me a good result...
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Post by moodyman on Mar 22, 2011 14:40:59 GMT -5
Hey thielguy, I have never used a room correction system. So asking out of curiosity.... I can understand using it for surround sound (what with delay, relative vol, cutoff frequencies and what not to configure) but what can a room correction system do for stereo (2-ch) listening? The same thing it does for surround sound..in a nutshell it attempts smooth out the room response. |
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Post by thielguy on Mar 22, 2011 16:19:30 GMT -5
i like to just call it magic! I have an engineering background and have a pretty good grasp on most room EQ, but trinnov is over my head in terms of what's happening.
Considering the listening room for the 2 channel will be a different room altogether - actually a set up I'm getting for my father at his house - and he'll hopefully have less of the constraints my dear, dear bride puts on my speaker placement, the XDA and AMP only solution with rock for him!
Thank for the question through, and helping me think through this...
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Post by oppman99 on Mar 22, 2011 16:44:47 GMT -5
I say use both. I know it's generally not something that is advised, with the extra ADA conversion but I do it with my Anthem D1 and W4S Dac2. I prefer the sound running through both. At least give it a try and see what you think.
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Post by bobbyt on Mar 22, 2011 22:05:39 GMT -5
There is no point to running through another DAC and then the XDA. Once you've converted to analog you might as well just send it straight to your amplifiers--the XDA's (or any other DAC's) quality comes from how little noise and distortion it adds to your signal.
Taking a signal that's already been through another DAC, converting it back to digital, and then sending it to the XDA is not going to make it sound better. The best you can hope for is that the XDA doesn't make it much worse. It's not going to improve it.
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Post by thielguy on Mar 23, 2011 15:15:23 GMT -5
my options are using a unit with room correction, OR replacing that unit with a XDA-1 - so what you're saying makes sense in my situation Bobby.
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Post by oppman99 on Mar 23, 2011 16:28:18 GMT -5
There is no point to running through another DAC and then the XDA. Once you've converted to analog you might as well just send it straight to your amplifiers--the XDA's (or any other DAC's) quality comes from how little noise and distortion it adds to your signal. Taking a signal that's already been through another DAC, converting it back to digital, and then sending it to the XDA is not going to make it sound better. The best you can hope for is that the XDA doesn't make it much worse. It's not going to improve it. I know in most cases that is true, but good room correction software will have an effect on the sound quality. There is a big difference in SQ running my DAC2 straight into the amps vs. going through the Anthem. I definately wouldn't recommend it with entry level gear, but it can work with higher quality equipment. |
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Post by jlafrenz on Mar 23, 2011 16:30:27 GMT -5
Why not look into acoustic treatments to help correct the room. In my 2 channel system I don't use any EQ. Just properly placed speakers and seating with acoustic panels. I've been quite pleased with the results.
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Post by vishal on Mar 23, 2011 23:36:14 GMT -5
There is a big difference in SQ running my DAC2 straight into the amps vs. going through the Anthem. I am confused. Are you really saying that the SQ improves after putting the W4S DAC2 output through the Anthem DAC? In other words the DAC2 by itself and the Anthem by itself is worse than both in the chain with Anthem adding room correction (despite the fact that it would cause an extra ADC->DAC)? How does that compare to letting the DAC2 analog output run through the Anthem in direct mode (no pocessing)? |
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Post by oppman99 on Mar 24, 2011 16:13:58 GMT -5
Yes, I am saying the SQ is better after running the W4S output through the Anthem with ARC turned on. I realize the extra conversion is usualy a no-no. The W4S is better alone than running through the Anthem in direct mode (This being a subjective statement). That is the difference that good room correction can make.
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