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Post by bdripper on Aug 18, 2011 16:21:30 GMT -5
Emotiva ran an ad in this months Stereophile about the XDA-1, I thought sales would be good.
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 18, 2011 17:44:17 GMT -5
It's possible that he is only familiar with the XDA-1 with the volume issue. In that case he'd be correct about using it as a pre-amp. Being that he is a guest he may not be up on the fixes that were done to it. Just thinking out loud. So, if the volume is not max out, the XDA is being used as a Pre-amp, otherwise not? You lost me, bro. When using as a stand-alone DAC you don't need the volume control. When using as a pre-pro there's a problem with the volume control that a lot of people didn't like. Emotiva will fix it for free if you send it to them. |
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Post by ultramic on Aug 18, 2011 17:54:00 GMT -5
All my content is digital so a beefed up digital pre-amp would be at the top of my wishlist. What I would like to see on an XDA-2 (if such thing exists):
- Upgraded DAC's
- Upgraded power supply
- Analog volume control
- Bass managment.
- HT Bypass
Essentially a digital version of the XSP-1 (maybe its the XMC-1 as someone previously suggested).........I'll start praying now.
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Post by sharkman on Aug 18, 2011 18:59:26 GMT -5
I'd like to see a DAC model that lasts for more than a year, and a better chip set with a top notch analog stage. Kind of like the Oppo 95 minus the disc playing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 4:21:20 GMT -5
Are the XDA-1 on clearance 'burned-in' already? ;D Yes, I have asked that a number of times in the past about all Emo products. They are in fact burned in at the factory in China. This is termed as pre-burn-in. Unfortunately there is also the phenomenon of burn-out which occurs after pre-burn-in if the component or speaker is not in fact operated under normal playback circumstances for more than 30 days on electronic components and after 45 days on speakers. Due to the long slow boat from China all products after arriving in Franklin have to usually be re-pre-burned-in due to the in-transit-burn-out. With the new inventory-turn-monitoring-by-bar-code procedures, any product sent out after being in Franklin inventory for more than 25 days will be double-dog-re-pre-burned-in prior to shipping to the buyer due to warehouse-inventory-burn-out . This extra customer service step(s) by Emotiva normally precludes the buyer from the necessity of buyer-burn-in. However, in the unlikely event that the buyer, for whatever reason, lets the new product sit around without hooking it up and using it for normal playback for a period of more than 30 days for electronics and 45 days for speakers then it is recommended that the customer do a follow-up-buyer-triple-dog-re-pre-burn-in before using the product due to the buyer-delay-burn-out. These burn-in/burn-out guidelines are only applicable for CONUS (contiguous United States) US sales. The contiguous United States are the 48 U.S. states on the continent of North America that are south of Canada and north of Mexico, plus the District of Columbia. The term excludes the states of Alaska and Hawaii, and all off-shore U.S. territories and possessions, such as Puerto Rico and any virgin islands such as Saipan. Together, the 48 contiguous states and D.C. occupy a combined area of 3,119,884.69 square miles (8,080,464.3 km2). Of this, 2,959,064.44 square miles (7,663,941.7 km2) is land, comprising 83.65% of U.S. land area. Officially, 160,820.25 square miles (416,522.5 km2) is water area, comprising 62.66% of the nation's water area. Its 2000 census population was 279,583,437, comprising 99.35% of the nation's population. Its population density was 94.484 inhabitants/sq mi (36.480/km), compared to 79.555/sq mi (30.716/km) for the nation as a whole. The 2010 census population was 306,675,006, comprising 99.33% of the nation's population, and a density of 103.639 inhabitants/sq mi (40.015/km²), compared to 87.264/sq mi (33.692/km²) for the nation as a whole. It is also recommended that the Dakiom Feedback Stabilizer be used to prevent the occurrence of premature-burn-out, commonly referred to as PBO. All sales to other than CONUS locations including the EU, South America, Asia, AuntArtica Australia, New Kiwiland and Rusha are subject to extended burn-in and burn-out guidelines that are double the normal burn-in and burn-out guidelines. There are no buyer-burn-in or buyer-burn-out guidelines for buyers in Canadia since most Canucks cannot audibly detect burn-in or burn-ooout or the lack thereof, eh. It also saves Emotiva la trouble de printing the guidelines in French. I hope this helps. |
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Post by sharkman on Aug 19, 2011 17:16:27 GMT -5
It sounds like someone is a little burned out! LOL Anyway, fare thee well, oh XDA, we hardly knew thee.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Aug 20, 2011 9:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by BillBauman on Aug 20, 2011 9:29:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure exactly what you're speculation is, but I'm pretty certain you will not see a DAC in the XSP. I posted somewhere else at length about why I think that. I do think you might see a DAC w/ volume control and some sort of analog pass-through for a single device, though. |
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Post by DYohn on Aug 20, 2011 9:41:32 GMT -5
From Big Dan's comments it sounds as if the XMC-1 may be a killer digital preamp...
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Aug 20, 2011 11:53:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure exactly what you're speculation is, but I'm pretty certain you will not see a DAC in the XSP. I posted somewhere else at length about why I think that. I do think you might see a DAC w/ volume control and some sort of analog pass-through for a single device, though. I agree, but I think it is a good idea/product, that's my only speculation. |
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Post by BillBauman on Aug 20, 2011 13:11:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure exactly what you're speculation is, but I'm pretty certain you will not see a DAC in the XSP. I posted somewhere else at length about why I think that. I do think you might see a DAC w/ volume control and some sort of analog pass-through for a single device, though. I agree, but I think it is a good idea/product, that's my only speculation. Oh, yeah, definitely. I feel the Onkyo is way out of most people's price range, though. I also feel that basically the XMC-1 is this, it just also has a video switcher built in. That's my reasoning as to why Emotiva has no 'room' for a product like this. If you want it, the XMC-1 will do fine, if you want a pure preamp, the XSP-1 is great, and if you want a DAC with an option for that one-off analog piece of gear, an analog pass-through with volume control on a future DAC would fill that space. That's where I speculate Emotiva is oging, hence, not going to have an XSPDA-1. |
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Post by jamscape on Aug 21, 2011 9:32:14 GMT -5
This Onkyo is on my short list. I've called several dealers in my area and have been quoted $1200 brand new but they all said that it would have to be ordered. I have not found anyplace with one on display.
cfelliot: I have a service manual in PDF for this model. Would you be interested in giving it a look and perhaps provide some insight on the design implementation of various aspects?
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Aug 21, 2011 11:53:47 GMT -5
This Onkyo is on my short list. I've called several dealers in my area and have been quoted $1200 brand new but they all said that it would have to be ordered. I have not found anyplace with one on display. cfelliot: I have a service manual in PDF for this model. Would you be interested in giving it a look and perhaps provide some insight on the design implementation of various aspects? See PM |
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Post by sharkman on Aug 26, 2011 19:36:50 GMT -5
... and if you want a DAC with an option for that one-off analog piece of gear, an analog pass-through with volume control on a future DAC would fill that space. That's where I speculate Emotiva is oging, hence, not going to have an XSPDA-1. Just where Emotiva is going is the 60,000 question. The XDA is cancelled less than a year after its big introduction with absolutely no hint as to whether a replacement is in the works. When the ERC was upgraded, they didn't sell off all the old ERC's and give no clue as to why, they introduced the ERC-2 with announced improvements. The XDA situation is completely different. It doesn't look like a new improved XDA is in the pipeline, they are just cutting their losses on it. Makes you wonder why. |
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Post by Dan Laufman on Aug 26, 2011 20:39:50 GMT -5
Gee sharkman, you are sounding so negative! You should know us better than this by now. We are not cutting bait and leaving the product category. We are always working to improve our products. Towards that end, I'm sure you will see something new coming along in the near future. BTW, the XDA-1's unexpected sales success is what has made us decide to move more aggressively forward with our new product. In the interim, the XDA-1 is a beautiful sounding unit, and at its current price, a real steal. Relax and enjoy the ride!!  Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 20:47:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up I wondered why something Lonnie seemed to put so much effort into would have such a short lifespan.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Aug 27, 2011 0:03:36 GMT -5
My biggest concern here was that XDA-1 was being discontinued with no replacement!
Caught in the dilemma of needing a second DAc shortly (I already own and love my XDA-1), I called Emotiva this past week.
I explained that their ad read like discontinuance and I just needed to know if something was in the works for a replacement. If not, I would order a second XDA-1.
I was told, by Matt, that it is not a discontinuance and the XDA-1 will remain on the product list after the sale.
Now with Dan’s comments it sounds like there is something in the works.
I would prefer to replace the XDA-1 in the main system when the mystery product arrives and use the XDA-1 on the second system.
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