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Post by musicfreak on Jan 15, 2012 15:17:39 GMT -5
. The root of the problem is stupidity. No one wants to feel stupid. Emotiova gear can make one feel stupid- at the prices we have all paid for gear that is either not as good or only as good as Emotiva. Not sure I can agree with that logic. I feel pretty smart about buying my UPA-7 and UPA-2. I paid full price for the UPA-7 new in Nov 2008 - $599. I can get just about that out of it should I decide to sell it. I paid $220 from a forum member for the UPA-2. I could get that and more for it on ebay but I don't think it'd be smart to sell it. It sounds every bit as good as my Acurus A150 - I might sell the Acurus. It doesn't even have a trigger on/off. What did the Acurus cost? That's my point. People don't want to admit that Emotiva can equal or exceed the performance of their far more expensive gear. Me? I feel smart, finally- the fact is that I have been stupid all my life-audio wise. A bit of a tough pill to swallow, but I'll get over it every time I listen to my system. ;D Back to tunes- right now, Warren Zevon- Excitable Boy.  |
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Post by knucklehead on Jan 15, 2012 16:44:50 GMT -5
The Emo amps are an incredible deal. I'm sure its an even better deal for Emo with the profit they make - essentially bagging a large part of what would have gone to distributors and middle-men along with the lion's share of the manufacturer. Not that I have a problem with that - I think it's the business model of the future. No worries about their retail partners going belly up and having to find another outlet for sales etc. Just think if the large AVR makers decided to go ID - can you say 'price-drop'? I'm guessing Harman Kardon will be the first. They already have a big presence on ebay.
I paid more for the Acurus than I did the UPA-2 - $275 shipped IIRC. I hear no difference between the two. Both drive the ERTs just fine. The big test will be to see if the UPA-2 is still around when the Acurus dies. I'm betting it will.
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Post by michiken on Jan 31, 2012 12:43:40 GMT -5
My UPA-2 is in the mail. That review is one of the big reasons I bought it. I'm pairing it with the XDA-1 and my Macbook. $4000 worth of equipment for less than $600. Or anyway by that reviewers new math. I'm excited.
Ken
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Post by DYohn on Jan 31, 2012 13:36:45 GMT -5
The UPA-2 is an excellent amp, and a steal at its price point.
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Post by moparz10 on Feb 1, 2012 1:55:32 GMT -5
i got the e-mail they were back in stock on dec 09th and just installed this past saturday and am i glad i was able to get one. from packaging to performance i was WOWed, they also sent my t-shirt
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Post by wally on Feb 1, 2012 22:36:25 GMT -5
I remember when it was $0.70 to the loony in the mid-eighties. My how times have changed! The Canadian dollar was about 70 cents up until Bush Jr. ruined the U.S.A.'s economy. It got as high as $1.21 while he was in. American's didn't seem to notice it as much as we Canadians did. Our dollar got 50 cents more buying power for a while, and that seemed pretty darned good... but the U.S.A. is Canada's biggest trading partner, you guys stopped buying our stuff made here when it got much more expensive... and people lost their jobs. |
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Post by allang on Feb 5, 2012 12:30:46 GMT -5
Just got my UPA-2 last Wednesday, hooked it up and am totally amazed at how good something so inexpensive can sound. Already have a USP-1 preamp and the combination is unbeatable. I'm hearing things in music that I've never heard before and the sound stage is remarkable.
Allan
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Post by Eli & Oscar on Feb 14, 2012 18:23:16 GMT -5
I've had my UPA-2 for less than a week, but I'm thrilled with it so far. Very high-quality unit, with a lot of slam and clarity, yet very musical. I feel very fortunate that Vincent had a "factory renewed" unit in stock at a great price!
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Post by jefffree69 on Feb 20, 2012 13:21:11 GMT -5
Same here - just got one the remaining "renewed" versions a few days ago, though you'd never be able to tell by its pristine appearance and packaging. Very impressive power for under $300. Built like a tank and runs cool as a cucumber even with 4-6 ohmish loads. It will likely replace an aging NAD poweramp in my home recording studio. Doing some A-B testing right now, trying to convince myself whether or not the UPA has a little more present / bright soundstage etc etc than the NAD. (after a few minutes adjusting levels and switching connections , you tend to "forget" the subtleties of previous one). Either way I'm tickled pink with this so far. imho Emotiva did the audio community a great disservice by discontinuing the UPA series - I don't see the need for more power for the vast majority. For my speakers and listening levels I doubt its ever putting out more than 32W - but lets not go there |
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Post by RightinLA on Mar 11, 2012 14:49:07 GMT -5
imho Emotiva did the audio community a great disservice by discontinuing the UPA series - I don't see the need for more power for the vast majority. It is a shame that the UPA-2's are no longer available. It was one of the most practical amps made by Emotiva. Is there a two channel integrated amp in the works as a substitute? |
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Post by mmoist on Jun 12, 2012 13:20:12 GMT -5
I am new to all of this so please bear with me. I have an Integra DHC 80.2 preamp, 4 Triton two’s and their center channel. I am looking for an amp. I am considering 2 XPA-2's for the 4 Triton two’s and an XPA-1 for the center. Is this insane over kill with speakers with a 91 db rating and powered sub- woofers. The dealer who sold me the speakers says I should use an Anthem A5, but that is what he sells. I have a large great room 20' x 30' with a listening area of 20 x 20. The ceilings are 12' high. this room eats up power like I have never seen.
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Post by Jerry on Jun 22, 2012 16:35:39 GMT -5
mmoistRemember that the XPA1 puts out 500 WPC(Watts Per Channel), XPA2 puts out 300WPC both are 8 ohms...usually center speakers handle a little less wattage than the loudspeakers. The XPA5 puts out 200WPC in 8 ohms, which would satisfy 5 speakers quite nicely...it just depends on what you are trying to accomplish...
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Post by tvguy on Aug 1, 2012 10:56:38 GMT -5
So is the new UPA-200 just a reincarnation of the UPA-2?
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Post by Dark Ranger on Aug 1, 2012 12:53:35 GMT -5
So is the new UPA-200 just a reincarnation of the UPA-2? It would appear that way, but no. Actually, the reincarnated UPA-2 will be the XPA-200 (more about the XPA-x00 amps here). The new UPA-200 uses the new Ultra Series design. Here's an excerpt from Big Dan: The problem with the old models was not quality or reliability.... they were just too expensive to build and too much like X series. We couldn't continue losing money on them. We've taken a fresh look at how to design high quality amplifiers for the budget audiophile and have designed a line of amplifiers that sound great, are extremely reliable, and match the look and feel of all of the current models, at price points that make them affordable for everyone. Recommended: Read the rest of his post here |
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Post by roadrunner on Aug 1, 2012 13:41:20 GMT -5
So is the new UPA-200 just a reincarnation of the UPA-2? It would appear that way, but no. Actually, the reincarnated UPA-2 will be the XPA-200 (more about the XPA-x00 amps here). The new UPA-200 uses the new Ultra Series design. Here's an excerpt from Big Dan: The problem with the old models was not quality or reliability.... they were just too expensive to build and too much like X series. We couldn't continue losing money on them. We've taken a fresh look at how to design high quality amplifiers for the budget audiophile and have designed a line of amplifiers that sound great, are extremely reliable, and match the look and feel of all of the current models, at price points that make them affordable for everyone. Recommended: Read the rest of his post hereI may be wrong but I find it very unlikely that the XPA-200 would be the replacement for the UPA-2. The UPA-2 only had 125W per channel (2 channels) which is about half the power the X Series amps have; and I find it very unlikely Emotiva would elect to replace a U Series amp with an X Series amp. Your link to Big Dan's post showed an awkwardly worded explanation that switched topics in mid sentence; and, if I read it correctly, Dan's mention of the XPA-200 was not related to the U Series amps. |
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Post by wcparks on Aug 1, 2012 19:02:33 GMT -5
I think that you are thinking of the upa-1 will be the xpa-100. The upa-1 had the xpa amp in it.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 1, 2012 19:18:17 GMT -5
It would appear that way, but no. Actually, the reincarnated UPA-2 will be the XPA-200 (more about the XPA-x00 amps here). The new UPA-200 uses the new Ultra Series design. Here's an excerpt from Big Dan: Recommended: Read the rest of his post hereI may be wrong but I find it very unlikely that the XPA-200 would be the replacement for the UPA-2. The UPA-2 only had 125W per channel (2 channels) which is about half the power the X Series amps have; and I find it very unlikely Emotiva would elect to replace a U Series amp with an X Series amp. Your link to Big Dan's post showed an awkwardly worded explanation that switched topics in mid sentence; and, if I read it correctly, Dan's mention of the XPA-200 was not related to the U Series amps. I guess it's speculation as he didn't necessarily state that the XPA-200 was an upgraded UPA-2 but his wording seemed to imply it as he implied the xpa-100 was an upgraded upa-1 with the the xpa-200 following afterwards to round out the line. Now the UPA-200 has a single amp module but the old UPA-2 had two. So I'm guessing the XPA-200 will have two as well so I'm guessing the xpa-200 will be an upgraded form of the UPA-2, but how upgraded is anyone's guess. I was certainly blindsided by the power specs of the UPA-200 which performed way better than I expected in that area. |
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Post by Dark Ranger on Aug 2, 2012 14:20:22 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
It appears I've posted inaccurate information. Based on Dan's comment that the UPA-1 was being upgraded and released as a XPA-100, I assumed the mentioned XPA-200 was the upgraded version of the UPA-2. As RR and garbulky mentioned, Dan did not expressly state the XPA-200 is an upgraded UPA-2. That was an assumption on my part. I try to avoid posting speculation as fact, but in this case I slipped. Thanks for pointing it out.
The links to Dan's post were given for full context. I thought that giving the context would be better than just pulling an excerpt. Maybe it's confusing, but I didn't take it that way.
EDIT: For what it's worth, I e-mailed Emotiva to ask about the XPA-200. My curiosity drives me to do so, especially since I'm considering that amp for my mains. I will post an update on my XPA-200/UPA-2 theory if I hear back (considering it's an unreleased product).
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Post by Dark Ranger on Aug 3, 2012 12:56:36 GMT -5
Just a quick update here. I heard back from Emotiva support.
My original message:
Response:
"Direct replacement" could mean a couple of things, but I'm still looking forward to the XPA-200 release. In any case, it does confirm part of my assumption that the 200 is the replacement for the UPA-2. Whether it's an modified or upgraded version has yet to be determined...
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Post by wcparks on Aug 3, 2012 14:39:12 GMT -5
Now i'm really confused. You have the upa-2 at 125 wpc and now you have the upa-200 at 125 wpc and the xpa-200 is a direct replacement for the upa-2? I'm still waiting for it to all make sence. Hopefully at emofest we we willl get the sence part of it.
I wanted the upa-1's but was to late so I figured i'd wait for the xpa-100. Maybe i should just get the xpa-2 before they deside to discontinue it and there is no replacement for it. I even thought maybe I should get the xpa-1's but just a little bit much money and power wise and unavailable at the moment. Thank God for my mini-x for now.
The good news is the XSP-1 is coming out soon. Maybe?
Sorry about the rant. I love my emmo gear and am sticking with it. It will rear its head in time. Just trying to make a good choice that will keep me from wanting in a few years. (ha ha)
I'm just so confused.
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