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Post by House on Dec 22, 2011 17:03:52 GMT -5
Give me all the knowledge you have with these.
I'll be running them off an XPA-2 if i decide to audition these...
I just want as much info from users as i can get before ordering.
Thanks J
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 22, 2011 20:26:43 GMT -5
How big is your room? In a normal sized room, any of the XPA series amps are more than enough to drive the MMGs. Owner of the larger Maggies have been extremely pleased using the XPA-2 power amps.
What is it you are trying to find out???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 22:56:42 GMT -5
The Maggies are a great match for the XPA-2. It will drive them effortlessly.
For music only system, it would be a great combo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 22:58:22 GMT -5
PS. The MMG's are factory direct only, so unless you buy used, you can't audition them. Unless some dealers are carrying them which I am not aware of.
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 22, 2011 23:15:43 GMT -5
PS. The MMG's are factory direct only, so unless you buy used, you can't audition them. Unless some dealers are carrying them which I am not aware of. From what I have seen and heard from dealers is that they may carry the MMG line, but they do not offer the in home trial. This must be done factory direct. It has been a while since I have been into or talked to a Maggie dealer so this may have changed. One thing you will want to focus on is room placement. Make sure you have the space to pull them out from the front wall. |
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Post by lar on Dec 22, 2011 23:24:40 GMT -5
PS. The MMG's are factory direct only, so unless you buy used, you can't audition them. Unless some dealers are carrying them which I am not aware of. From what I have seen and heard from dealers is that they may carry the MMG line, but they do not offer the in home trial. This must be done factory direct. It has been a while since I have been into or talked to a Maggie dealer so this may have changed. One thing you will want to focus on is room placement. Make sure you have the space to pull them out from the front wall. How much space would you think they need minimum from the wall? |
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 22, 2011 23:29:41 GMT -5
From what I have seen and heard from dealers is that they may carry the MMG line, but they do not offer the in home trial. This must be done factory direct. It has been a while since I have been into or talked to a Maggie dealer so this may have changed. One thing you will want to focus on is room placement. Make sure you have the space to pull them out from the front wall. How much space would you think they need minimum from the wall? I have used the following link for my "box" speakers and been quite pleased. There is a calculator for dipole as well. Unless it is a dedicated room, it may be hard to place the speakers exactly where it suggests. There will naturally have to be some trial and tweaking for each persons specific room and taste. Should give you a good start though. www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=26&pagestring |
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Post by jackfish on Dec 23, 2011 0:23:57 GMT -5
PS. The MMG's are factory direct only, so unless you buy used, you can't audition them. Unless some dealers are carrying them which I am not aware of. Magnepan's 60 day money back guarantee for the MMG allows an in home audition, just pack them up and send them back for a full purchase price refund if you don't want them. You are just out the return shipping, perhaps a fair price for an in home audition. You might not send them back though, they are that good. |
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Post by Mischief on Dec 23, 2011 9:48:53 GMT -5
From what I have seen and heard from dealers is that they may carry the MMG line, but they do not offer the in home trial. This must be done factory direct. It has been a while since I have been into or talked to a Maggie dealer so this may have changed. One thing you will want to focus on is room placement. Make sure you have the space to pull them out from the front wall. How much space would you think they need minimum from the wall? They need at least 3 feet if you want them to get anywhere near their rated bass response. |
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Post by lar on Dec 23, 2011 9:58:29 GMT -5
How much space would you think they need minimum from the wall? They need at least 3 feet if you want them to get anywhere near their rated bass response. Yea thats what i was afraid of, thanks. But with a sub, i could bring them closer to the wall? |
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Post by House on Dec 23, 2011 10:55:46 GMT -5
my room is basically my bedroom at about 14x16 and you could say this bedroom is more setup for critical 2chan listening than anything else....what i wanted to know is just any iformation, suggestions on use, setup, should i run these full range and dont worry about any kind of x-over at a certain frequency, I figure if i want any great bass its obvious i will have to suppliment with a sub, but thats kind of a given....
what im really looking for is anyone that has used these actual speakers and what they thought about them....
I will be taking advantage of the 60 day trial offered by magnepan as it is a very small expense for discovering something new with the potential to love the resolution im hearing....
primary setup would indeed would be with an xpa-2 and i'm more than posative its plenty sufficient. an ERC-2 will be the main source, and most likely the Pioneer receiver im using will play volume control for the 100% analong route.... these panels will end up roughly 2-3 feet off the back wall so im not worried there, they will also be about exactly 6 feet away from each other (center to center).
the way i look at it is...hell, i just sold my Paradigm CC-690 and the money i got from that will more than pay for the MMG's......so I'm in for the trial :-) I've always loved the sound of Martin Logans but could never bring myself to purchase any of those tanks....The MMG's will atleast get me in the door to electrostats and if i am pleased with what i hear then I will plan to purchase the 1.7's sometime next year (as long as space provides making it worth in).
thanks for any input guys.
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Post by Mischief on Dec 23, 2011 15:09:08 GMT -5
They need at least 3 feet if you want them to get anywhere near their rated bass response. Yea thats what i was afraid of, thanks. But with a sub, i could bring them closer to the wall? If they get less than three feet they can also begin to sound more and more off. If you don't have the space, it is best not to venture into Maggie-land. By off I mean they can take on many possible unwanted qualities... become shrill or muddy the mids. The air bouncing of the wall behind them can do more than just crush the bass. |
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Post by House on Dec 23, 2011 16:35:04 GMT -5
well atleast for me it doesnt matter now as i have decided to wait on the MMG's until i know what my future living situation is going to be like. dont want to get stuck with too little of room at the next location and be wasted effort.
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Post by lar on Dec 23, 2011 17:30:38 GMT -5
Yea thats what i was afraid of, thanks. But with a sub, i could bring them closer to the wall? If they get less than three feet they can also begin to sound more and more off. If you don't have the space, it is best not to venture into Maggie-land. By off I mean they can take on many possible unwanted qualities... become shrill or muddy the mids. The air bouncing of the wall behind them can do more than just crush the bass. What about placing some type of material behind them? Foam or what ever?  |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 23, 2011 19:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by musicfreak on Dec 23, 2011 19:57:19 GMT -5
I've wanted a pair of Maggies for 10 plus years. Set up correctly, they have no equal, IMHO.
That said, I've never had the right room to set them up properly, so I have stayed away. We are moving next year and I am keeping my fingers crossed.
If you don't have "breathing room" 3-6 feet out from the wall, it isn't just bass response that suffers: imaging and soundstaging suffers as well.
With MMGs, even set up correctly, a subwoofer is most likely necessary.
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 23, 2011 21:15:02 GMT -5
My experience with planar/electrostats is that they are extremely placement sensitive. They sound terrible if not properly set-up. If you have a room that can accommodate them, they sound heavenly. Unfortunately, not many home theater in typical residential setting are well matched to get the best from them.
I you really want Maggie with a passion, bring a pair in for the 60 day trial and see if you can make them work in your situation. Don't be surprised if you are disappointed. I have known many, many people who dearly wanted them to work, but could not get them to work in the space they had. Check with a dealer you trust and pick his mind and what kind of room layout and space needs you will have.
When I had my Quad Electrostats they required about four feet away from the walls and could not be set-up in a room used for "living in". If WAF is going to come into play, you will likely need a dedicated listening room.
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Post by lar on Dec 24, 2011 1:01:19 GMT -5
I really want to take a dip in the Maggie pool. Its the back wall that i am most concerned with. |
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Post by snacker on Dec 24, 2011 2:17:29 GMT -5
How much space would you think they need minimum from the wall? They need at least 3 feet if you want them to get anywhere near their rated bass response. My 12's are about 2-3 feet off the back wall and sound great. I have a couple ultra subs to help though. If you like bass you're going to need subs no matter where you place them. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2011 9:49:08 GMT -5
I really want to take a dip in the Maggie pool. Its the back wall that i am most concerned with. I had Maggies setup about 2 feet away from the back wall, but I used acoustic panels behind them. It worked great. Without panels, the sound suffered somewhat. |
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