Mirage OMD C2 Center Impressions

[monkumonku]

I posted this on the Blu Ray and AVR sites, too, since they have Mirage speaker threads I have been following. Last week I bought the OMD C2 center channel to replace the C1. Here's some first impressions:

Here are some very unscientific impressions of the C2. I initially connected it to the right channel of my Onkyo 706 AVR, switched the mode to CD analog mono and did about 20 hours of break in time in order to satisfy the dire warnings posted by Mirage in the manual about how breaking in time is a necessity. They actually recommend 100+ hours but I think 20 is plenty. I don't blast my speakers to ear shattering levels anyway. Did I hear any difference between hour 1 and hour 20? Not sure. I think my ears adjusted is what happened.

After the 20 or so hours, I unhooked my C1 from the main system and brought it to the living room to compare to the C2. Their stand was the C2 box, so it wasn't the best of speaker stands. The C2 is a lot deeper than the C1; the fronts of the speakers were about 2-2.5 ft from the wall.

The most noticeable difference was in the bass. The C2 has very strong bass and it actually was sort of overpowering. However, it could be that it was placed too close to the wall plus being on a cardboard box wasn't the best thing to have it on. I'd say this would make a good main speaker. Mids and highs were very clear and lifelike. It has a fuller, richer sound than the C1 which it should considering the larger woofers. This informal evaluation was done listening to several well-recorded CD tracks played in mono.

I then put the C2 into the center position in my main room. It was put on top of Auralex Mopads which were on top of a wooden television riser/stand which itself was sitting on an Auralex Subdude (yes I know, pretty crazy but it looks fine). It is sitting out in front of the TV, with the front of the speaker being 4' from the wall. The Mopads under the speaker make it give the impression of floating in the air - it already looks like a giant UFO anyway so that heightens the effect.

Since my UMC-1 has no mono mode, I played several well-recorded CD tracks, left channel only. I switched cables between the C2 and the left OMD15 (didn't compare the C1.. it was still in the living room). I also level matched the speakers - the C2 is 3db less efficient. This time the bass was not so strong. I don't know if that is a function of playing only the left channel or because of the dampening effect of using the Auralex products, but the C2 was very well balanced. It reaches pretty low in the bass but everything was in balance - no one characteristic stood out.

Compared to the 15's, the C2 has a better midrange. It is cleaner - the 15 has a little more resonance to voices and the C2 sounds more natural or lifelike, female voices in particular. The highs were comparable. My room is not the best for bass because of the room nodes, but both the 15 and the C2 had good bass with the C2 perhaps tighter. For sure, the bass was not as prominent as when it was hooked up to the Onkyo in the living room. In my main setup, the C2 was connected to an XPA-3. The 15's are connected to XPA-1's. My comparison was done with two different Emo amps but I don't think this would make much difference in the sound. I do want to say that I feel the Onkyo AVR is not adequate to drive the 28 properly. It just didn't seem like it had enough power. The Emo amps - no problemo.

I didn't have a whole lot of time yesterday so I want to do more listening. I listened to a couple of scenes from the Kill Bill BD that I like to use to evaluate the 5.1 sound. It sounded great. The C2 is authoritative when it needs to be but it blends very well. When doing the level matching using a Radioshack SPL meter, I could tell it doesn't blend as well as the C1 but it is still a close timbre match - you can tell they are from the same family. Dialog was crisp and clear, pans from one speaker to another were seamless. It has great dynamics.

Overall: I still need to do more listening but as of now the C2 is a keeper. I wouldn't mind having 3 across the front if I could figure out how to make this behemoth fit on the left and right (it is 25" wide). It has very natural, clean and balanced sound with good dynamic range. I especially like the midrange. It's also a gorgeous speaker. Given that I don't think I can fit them on the L/R, I will just have to keep an eye on Vann's to put the 28's on a big sale. ;D

My wife's reaction: "are you going to sell that other one?" I said yes, as long as this new speaker (the C2) sounds good. "Oh, okay, I don't mind if you buy new stuff as long as you sell the old stuff." ;D

I will post more impressions after I have a chance to listen more.. which is a problem since during the week I don't have much time.

[copperband]

thank you so much for the review!

[iceman66]

So when are you replacing the 15's with 28's

edit: I guess I didn't read the last lines of your review.

Thanks for posting!

[geebo]

So you have midder mids and thats all well and good. But does it sound more organic? ;D

[monkumonku]

Mar 12, 2012 13:27:58 GMT -5 geebo said:

So you have midder mids and thats all well and good. But does it sound more organic? ;D

Define what you mean by "organic." Okay, that will effectively stop you from posting on this thread anymore. ;D

[geebo]

Mar 12, 2012 13:36:17 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Mar 12, 2012 13:27:58 GMT -5 geebo said:

So you have midder mids and thats all well and good. But does it sound more organic? ;D

Define what you mean by "organic." Okay, that will effectively stop you from posting on this thread anymore. ;D

touché

[monkumonku]

Mar 12, 2012 13:43:03 GMT -5 geebo said:

Mar 12, 2012 13:36:17 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Define what you mean by "organic." Okay, that will effectively stop you from posting on this thread anymore. ;D

touché

So organic means touche? What does that mean??? ;D

When I was little and the Touche Turtle cartoon first came out I thought it said "Touchy Turtle" and I sat there thinking what's this turtle's problem, anyway???

[geebo]

Mar 12, 2012 14:20:52 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Mar 12, 2012 13:43:03 GMT -5 geebo said:

touché

So organic means touche? What does that mean??? ;D

When I was little and the Touche Turtle cartoon first came out I thought it said "Touchy Turtle" and I sat there thinking what's this turtle's problem, anyway???

ROTFL ;D ;D ;D

[Darksky]

You two are too funny.

These Mirage speakers have really caught my eye.
The 28s look to be something, and the 15s are going for 398 from Vann's

There is a set of OMD-5 in Birdseye Maple on Ebay right now for a deuce delivered. I keep thinking about how cool they look.

[monkumonku]

Mar 12, 2012 16:45:13 GMT -5 Darksky said:

You two are too funny.

These Mirage speakers have really caught my eye.
The 28s look to be something, and the 15s are going for 398 from Vann's

There is a set of OMD-5 in Birdseye Maple on Ebay right now for a deuce delivered. I keep thinking about how cool they look.

The speakers are gorgeous and I think they sound good, too. The 28's are still way too expensive for me to think about, though. Well.. strike that. I think about them all the time. But that's about it, just think about them. ;D

[geebo]

Mar 12, 2012 17:28:26 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Mar 12, 2012 16:45:13 GMT -5 Darksky said:

You two are too funny.

These Mirage speakers have really caught my eye.
The 28s look to be something, and the 15s are going for 398 from Vann's

There is a set of OMD-5 in Birdseye Maple on Ebay right now for a deuce delivered. I keep thinking about how cool they look.

The speakers are gorgeous and I think they sound good, too. The 28's are still way too expensive for me to think about, though. Well.. strike that. I think about them all the time. But that's about it, just think about them. ;D

And that, my friend, is how it always starts.

[monkumonku]

Mar 12, 2012 17:30:58 GMT -5 geebo said:

Mar 12, 2012 17:28:26 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

The speakers are gorgeous and I think they sound good, too. The 28's are still way too expensive for me to think about, though. Well.. strike that. I think about them all the time. But that's about it, just think about them. ;D

And that, my friend, is how it always starts.

Yes it already has.

[spurriersucks]

Mar 12, 2012 17:30:58 GMT -5 geebo said:

Mar 12, 2012 17:28:26 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

The speakers are gorgeous and I think they sound good, too. The 28's are still way too expensive for me to think about, though. Well.. strike that. I think about them all the time. But that's about it, just think about them. ;D

And that, my friend, is how it always starts.

[casey01]

Mar 12, 2012 13:04:06 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

I posted this on the Blu Ray and AVR sites, too, since they have Mirage speaker threads I have been following. Last week I bought the OMD C2 center channel to replace the C1. Here's some first impressions:

Here are some very unscientific impressions of the C2. I initially connected it to the right channel of my Onkyo 706 AVR, switched the mode to CD analog mono and did about 20 hours of break in time in order to satisfy the dire warnings posted by Mirage in the manual about how breaking in time is a necessity. They actually recommend 100+ hours but I think 20 is plenty. I don't blast my speakers to ear shattering levels anyway. Did I hear any difference between hour 1 and hour 20? Not sure. I think my ears adjusted is what happened.

After the 20 or so hours, I unhooked my C1 from the main system and brought it to the living room to compare to the C2. Their stand was the C2 box, so it wasn't the best of speaker stands. The C2 is a lot deeper than the C1; the fronts of the speakers were about 2-2.5 ft from the wall.

The most noticeable difference was in the bass. The C2 has very strong bass and it actually was sort of overpowering. However, it could be that it was placed too close to the wall plus being on a cardboard box wasn't the best thing to have it on. I'd say this would make a good main speaker. Mids and highs were very clear and lifelike. It has a fuller, richer sound than the C1 which it should considering the larger woofers. This informal evaluation was done listening to several well-recorded CD tracks played in mono.

I then put the C2 into the center position in my main room. It was put on top of Auralex Mopads which were on top of a wooden television riser/stand which itself was sitting on an Auralex Subdude (yes I know, pretty crazy but it looks fine). It is sitting out in front of the TV, with the front of the speaker being 4' from the wall. The Mopads under the speaker make it give the impression of floating in the air - it already looks like a giant UFO anyway so that heightens the effect.

Since my UMC-1 has no mono mode, I played several well-recorded CD tracks, left channel only. I switched cables between the C2 and the left OMD15 (didn't compare the C1.. it was still in the living room). I also level matched the speakers - the C2 is 3db less efficient. This time the bass was not so strong. I don't know if that is a function of playing only the left channel or because of the dampening effect of using the Auralex products, but the C2 was very well balanced. It reaches pretty low in the bass but everything was in balance - no one characteristic stood out.

Compared to the 15's, the C2 has a better midrange. It is cleaner - the 15 has a little more resonance to voices and the C2 sounds more natural or lifelike, female voices in particular. The highs were comparable. My room is not the best for bass because of the room nodes, but both the 15 and the C2 had good bass with the C2 perhaps tighter. For sure, the bass was not as prominent as when it was hooked up to the Onkyo in the living room. In my main setup, the C2 was connected to an XPA-3. The 15's are connected to XPA-1's. My comparison was done with two different Emo amps but I don't think this would make much difference in the sound. I do want to say that I feel the Onkyo AVR is not adequate to drive the 28 properly. It just didn't seem like it had enough power. The Emo amps - no problemo.

I didn't have a whole lot of time yesterday so I want to do more listening. I listened to a couple of scenes from the Kill Bill BD that I like to use to evaluate the 5.1 sound. It sounded great. The C2 is authoritative when it needs to be but it blends very well. When doing the level matching using a Radioshack SPL meter, I could tell it doesn't blend as well as the C1 but it is still a close timbre match - you can tell they are from the same family. Dialog was crisp and clear, pans from one speaker to another were seamless. It has great dynamics.

Overall: I still need to do more listening but as of now the C2 is a keeper. I wouldn't mind having 3 across the front if I could figure out how to make this behemoth fit on the left and right (it is 25" wide). It has very natural, clean and balanced sound with good dynamic range. I especially like the midrange. It's also a gorgeous speaker. Given that I don't think I can fit them on the L/R, I will just have to keep an eye on Vann's to put the 28's on a big sale. ;D

My wife's reaction: "are you going to sell that other one?" I said yes, as long as this new speaker (the C2) sounds good. "Oh, okay, I don't mind if you buy new stuff as long as you sell the old stuff." ;D

I will post more impressions after I have a chance to listen more.. which is a problem since during the week I don't have much time.

Back a few years ago, before I sold it, I had one of the original omnipolar center channel models that Mirage introduced as part of a home theater line. This was even before the sellout to Klipsch. One of the things worth noting that you didn't mention in your comments and perhaps you haven't had the chance to experiment with it yet, is the amazing wide angle dispersion of this type of design. I could stand off to the side of the speaker in essence on a 90 degree angle off center and there was virtually no drop-off in the sound. This is quite remarkable since, as we all know, regular front-firing center channel speakers, no matter how good, have some sort of drop-off once you move further and further from the "sweet spot." Although I haven't heard it, the C2 with its larger cabinet and drivers I would assume would be even better as it would have the characteristics more in keeping with a full-range design, hence, a wider range of sound.

[monkumonku]

Mar 12, 2012 20:30:44 GMT -5 casey01 said:

Mar 12, 2012 13:04:06 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

I posted this on the Blu Ray and AVR sites, too, since they have Mirage speaker threads I have been following. Last week I bought the OMD C2 center channel to replace the C1. Here's some first impressions:

Here are some very unscientific impressions of the C2. I initially connected it to the right channel of my Onkyo 706 AVR, switched the mode to CD analog mono and did about 20 hours of break in time in order to satisfy the dire warnings posted by Mirage in the manual about how breaking in time is a necessity. They actually recommend 100+ hours but I think 20 is plenty. I don't blast my speakers to ear shattering levels anyway. Did I hear any difference between hour 1 and hour 20? Not sure. I think my ears adjusted is what happened.

After the 20 or so hours, I unhooked my C1 from the main system and brought it to the living room to compare to the C2. Their stand was the C2 box, so it wasn't the best of speaker stands. The C2 is a lot deeper than the C1; the fronts of the speakers were about 2-2.5 ft from the wall.

The most noticeable difference was in the bass. The C2 has very strong bass and it actually was sort of overpowering. However, it could be that it was placed too close to the wall plus being on a cardboard box wasn't the best thing to have it on. I'd say this would make a good main speaker. Mids and highs were very clear and lifelike. It has a fuller, richer sound than the C1 which it should considering the larger woofers. This informal evaluation was done listening to several well-recorded CD tracks played in mono.

I then put the C2 into the center position in my main room. It was put on top of Auralex Mopads which were on top of a wooden television riser/stand which itself was sitting on an Auralex Subdude (yes I know, pretty crazy but it looks fine). It is sitting out in front of the TV, with the front of the speaker being 4' from the wall. The Mopads under the speaker make it give the impression of floating in the air - it already looks like a giant UFO anyway so that heightens the effect.

Since my UMC-1 has no mono mode, I played several well-recorded CD tracks, left channel only. I switched cables between the C2 and the left OMD15 (didn't compare the C1.. it was still in the living room). I also level matched the speakers - the C2 is 3db less efficient. This time the bass was not so strong. I don't know if that is a function of playing only the left channel or because of the dampening effect of using the Auralex products, but the C2 was very well balanced. It reaches pretty low in the bass but everything was in balance - no one characteristic stood out.

Compared to the 15's, the C2 has a better midrange. It is cleaner - the 15 has a little more resonance to voices and the C2 sounds more natural or lifelike, female voices in particular. The highs were comparable. My room is not the best for bass because of the room nodes, but both the 15 and the C2 had good bass with the C2 perhaps tighter. For sure, the bass was not as prominent as when it was hooked up to the Onkyo in the living room. In my main setup, the C2 was connected to an XPA-3. The 15's are connected to XPA-1's. My comparison was done with two different Emo amps but I don't think this would make much difference in the sound. I do want to say that I feel the Onkyo AVR is not adequate to drive the 28 properly. It just didn't seem like it had enough power. The Emo amps - no problemo.

I didn't have a whole lot of time yesterday so I want to do more listening. I listened to a couple of scenes from the Kill Bill BD that I like to use to evaluate the 5.1 sound. It sounded great. The C2 is authoritative when it needs to be but it blends very well. When doing the level matching using a Radioshack SPL meter, I could tell it doesn't blend as well as the C1 but it is still a close timbre match - you can tell they are from the same family. Dialog was crisp and clear, pans from one speaker to another were seamless. It has great dynamics.

Overall: I still need to do more listening but as of now the C2 is a keeper. I wouldn't mind having 3 across the front if I could figure out how to make this behemoth fit on the left and right (it is 25" wide). It has very natural, clean and balanced sound with good dynamic range. I especially like the midrange. It's also a gorgeous speaker. Given that I don't think I can fit them on the L/R, I will just have to keep an eye on Vann's to put the 28's on a big sale. ;D

My wife's reaction: "are you going to sell that other one?" I said yes, as long as this new speaker (the C2) sounds good. "Oh, okay, I don't mind if you buy new stuff as long as you sell the old stuff." ;D

I will post more impressions after I have a chance to listen more.. which is a problem since during the week I don't have much time.

Back a few years ago, before I sold it, I had one of the original omnipolar center channel models that Mirage introduced as part of a home theater line. This was even before the sellout to Klipsch. One of the things worth noting that you didn't mention in your comments and perhaps you haven't had the chance to experiment with it yet, is the amazing wide angle dispersion of this type of design. I could stand off to the side of the speaker in essence on a 90 degree angle off center and there was virtually no drop-off in the sound. This is quite remarkable since, as we all know, regular front-firing center channel speakers, no matter how good, have some sort of drop-off once you move further and further from the "sweet spot." Although I haven't heard it, the C2 with its larger cabinet and drivers I would assume would be even better as it would have the characteristics more in keeping with a full-range design, hence, a wider range of sound.

Yes, that is correct - there is an extremely wide sweet spot. I guess I didn't mention that because that trait is exhibited by the other OMD speakers I have - the 15's, C1 and 5's. They all do quite a remarkable job - you can walk around the room and it sounds good pretty much everywhere.

[monkumonku]

So this evening Mrs. Monku is sitting on the sofa eyeing the new C2 and giving it a good once over. "That thing looks out of place. It takes up so much space in front of the TV."

I tell her that the old C1 did the same thing although this new one is bigger.

"That's okay, I'm not going to say anything more about it because I guarantee you, by Christmas you'll have gotten something else to take its place."

;D

[geebo]

Mar 12, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

So this evening Mrs. Monku is sitting on the sofa eyeing the new C2 and giving it a good once over. "That thing looks out of place. It takes up so much space in front of the TV."

I tell her that the old C1 did the same thing although this new one is bigger.

"That's okay, I'm not going to say anything more about it because I guarantee you, by Christmas you'll have gotten something else to take its place."

;D

Sound like you might have prepared her for those 28's ;D

[monkumonku]

Mar 13, 2012 7:47:30 GMT -5 geebo said:

Mar 12, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

So this evening Mrs. Monku is sitting on the sofa eyeing the new C2 and giving it a good once over. "That thing looks out of place. It takes up so much space in front of the TV."

I tell her that the old C1 did the same thing although this new one is bigger.

"That's okay, I'm not going to say anything more about it because I guarantee you, by Christmas you'll have gotten something else to take its place."

;D

Sound like you might have prepared her for those 28's ;D

I wouldn't mind having C2's across the front but that just isn't going to happen. They are too darn wide! Like trying to fit three elephants in your back seat..

But the 28's... now that's a different matter. ;D One thing I would like to hear, hopefully soon, are the upcoming reference speakers from Emo with the ribbon tweeters. If those are really good, Mrs. Monku could very well be right.

[Deleted]

".....I think my ears adjusted is what happened......" (You have adjustable ears?)

Well, I sometimes play an exercise which I did with your post. After reading only the first paragraph I could see that you were going to do an OMD-C1 versus OMD-C2 comparison as the center speaker for your OMD-15 system.

Before I read anymore, I thought I would see if I could predict which would be the best match. I went to the Mirage site and checked out the specs for the two centers and the OMD-15. It was clear to me that the OMD-C1 was the correct timbre/voice match for the OMD-15's and not the OMD-C2. Some folks think I'm nuts (they might be correct) but many times one can predict a lot just by analyzing the website and specifications. I presumed that you might like the sound of the C-2 over the C-1 by themselves but the center speaker is supposed to be part of a trio of perfectly matched speakers across the front. Too many folks IMO listen to the center as a separate speaker which is a big mistake in achieving a perfect LCR blend.

Considering also the crossover points on the two center speakers and the OMD-15, your feedback is just what I expected......"I could tell it doesn't blend as well as the C1 but it is still a close timbre match - you can tell they are from the same family......"

So I was initially surprised that you plan on keeping the C-2 since the C-1 is the obvious match in the Mirage line for the OMD-15. Then I remembered who's thread I was reading, Monkumonku's. OK, so I have to expand my scope in evaluating your review and subconscious/subliminal future intentions .......... Monkumonku, oh Monkumonku, please listen to your inner voices ..... there is another Mirage tower that just happens to be the perfect match for the new C-2 .....

So now I go back to the Mirage site and in fact see that the OMD-28 just happens to be the perfect match in the Mirage line for the OMD-C2, same drivers, same material, same crossover, you name it.

OK, let's go one step further, I'm not stupid and I catch on fairly fast. The OMD-C5 is the perfect match for the OMD-15 and the OMD-C1 ......... however, the perfect surround match for the OMD-28 and the OMD-C2 is not the C5 but happens to be the OMD-R surround speaker.

Oh, I get it folks. He is slowly progressing from the Mirage OMD-15, 5.1 system to the OMD-28, 5.1 system, one step at a time. First change the center, then the tower, and then the surrounds.



FROM:

(2) OMD-15 Front LR
(1) OMD-C1 Center
(2) OMD-5s Surrounds






TO

(2) OMD-28 Front LR
(1) OMD-C2 Center
(2) OMD-Rs Surrounds




ah so desu ka ..... I see what he is up to now!

"..........I will just have to keep an eye on Vann's to put the 28's on a big sale..........."

"..........I don't mind if you buy new stuff as long as you sell the old stuff..........."

(But Rickie, what about the Triton 2's and 3's Dwayland has been raving about?)

"..........One thing I would like to hear, hopefully soon, are the upcoming reference speakers from Emo with the ribbon tweeters..........."


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/category/desc/27/0/0.77_105_114_97_103_101/mirage-speakers/

[monkumonku]

Mar 13, 2012 12:20:47 GMT -5 @chuckienut said:

".....I think my ears adjusted is what happened......" (You have adjustable ears?)

Well, I sometimes play an exercise which I did with your post. After reading only the first paragraph I could see that you were going to do an OMD-C1 versus OMD-C2 comparison as the center speaker for your OMD-15 system.

Before I read anymore, I thought I would see if I could predict which would be the best match. I went to the Mirage site and checked out the specs for the two centers and the OMD-15. It was clear to me that the OMD-C1 was the correct timbre/voice match for the OMD-15's and not the OMD-C2. Some folks think I'm nuts (they might be correct) but many times one can predict a lot just by analyzing the website and specifications. I presumed that you might like the sound of the C-2 over the C-1 by themselves but the center speaker is supposed to be part of a trio of perfectly matched speakers across the front. Too many folks IMO listen to the center as a separate speaker which is a big mistake in achieving a perfect LCR blend.

Considering also the crossover points on the two center speakers and the OMD-15, your feedback is just what I expected......"I could tell it doesn't blend as well as the C1 but it is still a close timbre match - you can tell they are from the same family......"

So I was initially surprised that you plan on keeping the C-2 since the C-1 is the obvious match in the Mirage line for the OMD-15. Then I remembered who's thread I was reading, Monkumonku's. OK, so I have to expand my scope in evaluating your review and subconscious/subliminal future intentions .......... Monkumonku, oh Monkumonku, please listen to your inner voices ..... there is another Mirage tower that just happens to be the perfect match for the new C-2 .....

So now I go back to the Mirage site and in fact see that the OMD-28 just happens to be the perfect match in the Mirage line for the OMD-C2, same drivers, same material, same crossover, you name it.

OK, let's go one step further, I'm not stupid and I catch on fairly fast. The OMD-C5 is the perfect match for the OMD-15 and the OMD-C1 ......... however, the perfect surround match for the OMD-28 and the OMD-C2 is not the C5 but happens to be the OMD-R surround speaker.

Oh, I get it folks. He is slowly progressing from the Mirage OMD-15, 5.1 system to the OMD-28, 5.1 system, one step at a time. First change the center, then the tower, and then the surrounds.



FROM:

(2) OMD-15 Front LR
(1) OMD-C1 Center
(2) OMD-5s Surrounds






TO

(2) OMD-28 Front LR
(1) OMD-C2 Center
(2) OMD-Rs Surrounds




ah so desu ka ..... I see what he is up to now!

"..........I will just have to keep an eye on Vann's to put the 28's on a big sale..........."

"..........I don't mind if you buy new stuff as long as you sell the old stuff..........."

(But Rickie, what about the Triton 2's and 3's Dwayland has been raving about?)

"..........One thing I would like to hear, hopefully soon, are the upcoming reference speakers from Emo with the ribbon tweeters..........."


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/category/desc/27/0/0.77_105_114_97_103_101/mirage-speakers/

Chuckie, I commend you on your superb and accurate analysis! ;D Yes, you realized that the true purpose of my discourse was NOT to review the C2 but instead provide rationalization and justification for acquiring the 28's. I actually tried to rationalize C2's as mains but that is too impractical because of their awkward size. That would lead me to have to rationalize moving to a new house. ;D

There IS one thing you got wrong, though - I am not looking at the OMD-R's. Same deal, they won't fit properly in the room. Otherwise I'd be trying to justify those as well.

And what I use for RJ (might as well just shorten rationalization and justification) for not buying anything yet is that I really am curious about the proposed Emo reference series with the ribbons and hope that isn't vaporware.

Vann's is advertising a phone sale today - call for huge discounts. Well, the 28's aren't part of that sale (don't ask me how I know that). ;D RJ = don't want to kick myself just in case they were somehow discounted crazy cheap. But like winning the Lotto, it wasn't meant to be, at least for today.

Oh, and about the Triton's - you know, for some reason I have no interest in them at all. Perhaps it is because I have deliberately ignored reading more about them. ;D I'm more interested in ID brands.

Starting with a single C2 is easier than bringing in a pair of 28's. ;D