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Post by The Mad Norseman on Jul 30, 2012 12:41:18 GMT -5
I'm sure there's a part of this forum dedicated to dumb, clueless, racist, political statements. You might want to refer to it. And why not try to talk about emotiva international here instead ? For what it's worth, people like me here earning a good bit more than average still only pay a lot less than 10% of my income. That's for your "50%" thing. (the guy complaining about the cost of gaz for a Z4 has issues, too...) So...confiscating half someone's yearly earnings is ok, as long as you're on the receiving end? Putting aside silly issues like right and wrong, remember that for everyone more productive than you you'd love to see robbed blind, there are ten more people looking at your modest lifestyle with envy. And they'll just as gladly pretend to believe any politician who says you didn't earn it and don't deserve it. That's how the US becomes Western Europe, and Western Europe becomes Southern Europe, and Southern Europe becomes Haiti. Eastern Europe had to go through decades of grinding socialist poverty and famine to start rediscovering individual sovereignty... Well said bobbyt! I seriously don't know why the Europeans put up with these confiscatory levels of VAT & customs costs that too many, (sensible Erwin.BE excepted! :-D), Europeans seem to accept without even so much as a whimper. And judging by the response of some on this thread, envy, and class warfare politics are alive and well in Europe (...soon coming to a U.S. election near you!). Hopefully, an upcoming European outlet to distribute Emotiva products there will relieve some of that, but Emo will likely have to pay more up front to import (and THEN distribute) such that the net cost to the European consumer may not be all that different(?). But at least there would be a 'closer-by' place to return product to for warranty service or exchanges which is certainly worth something.
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Post by aquarius on Jul 31, 2012 4:35:40 GMT -5
It seems "clueless" was the right word after all Emotiva shouldn't worry to much about import rates from China or the US. Apple and Intel seem to be doing fine. Distribution is another matter. The really good things europeans should get are low shipping rates (they could do free shipping in western europe, that should not cost them more than the US-wide free shipping), and local repair service.
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Post by eirik84 on Jul 31, 2012 7:24:47 GMT -5
It seems "clueless" was the right word after all Emotiva shouldn't worry to much about import rates from China or the US. Apple and Intel seem to be doing fine. Distribution is another matter. The really good things europeans should get are low shipping rates (they could do free shipping in western europe, that should not cost them more than the US-wide free shipping), and local repair service. Wish you were chief of shipping for Emotiva! I live in Norway and a XPA-2 costs ca 250$ in shipping. Considered the distance its not so bad, but free shipping in western europe would be very nice!
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Post by aquarius on Jul 31, 2012 8:16:46 GMT -5
Wish you were chief of shipping for Emotiva! I live in Norway and a XPA-2 costs ca 250$ in shipping. Considered the distance its not so bad, but free shipping in western europe would be very nice! That's the idea. If Emotiva ships directly from China to the Netherlands, there's less ocean crossing to do.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Aug 1, 2012 11:26:07 GMT -5
I'm sure there's a part of this forum dedicated to dumb, clueless, racist, political statements. You might want to refer to it. And why not try to talk about emotiva international here instead ? For what it's worth, people like me here earning a good bit more than average still only pay a lot less than 10% of my income. That's for your "50%" thing. (the guy complaining about the cost of gaz for a Z4 has issues, too...) Waterman, I know I am living a more comfortable life than 99% of the other earthlings. But Belgium is in the top 3 of taxes worldwide (only 2 Scandinavian nations are more). Which in itself is no problem. Really not! If the taxes are spent well, that is. Instead, a substantial percentage of Belgian people is still poor. Many elderly people have to survive on too limited funds. If you get sick or handicapped, you're in trouble! Why is that? Simple: not enough people work for their money (we got 3 times less unemployment rate vs Spain, but you can receive payments without any time limit). The state employes to much people (our National Bank still has the same number of employees as before the Euro - why?). Wallonia (french part) is in a terrible economic state, but why work if Flanders pays for all the shortages anyway? If this is having issues, so be it. It's my country, so I am entitled to criticise when things go wrong. It's not as if certain other countries don't ellect (tasteless) for president... Don't you at least need some IQ test or something in order to prove you are capable of ruling the world and start wars?
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Post by Erwin.BE on Aug 1, 2012 11:29:18 GMT -5
I live in Norway and a XPA-2 costs ca 250$ in shipping. Considered the distance its not so bad, but free shipping in western europe would be very nice! Thank you, but isn't "NOR"way north Europe?
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Post by aquarius on Aug 2, 2012 5:05:31 GMT -5
Thank you, but isn't "NOR"way north Europe? It depends who you talk to. Europe is most usually only divided in "western" and "eastern" for those kind of things, the line beeing the old iron curtain. Of course, news outlets will mention "northern Europe" versus "Southern" when talking about national debts, bank collapse and all that but that's not the matter here. And in that case Germany and even France would be considered "northern" my most... As for shipping Emotiva products, "western" Europe is far smaller than the US, and transportation shouldn't cost more. So with a warehouse in the Netherlands, Emotiva (depending on the Europena price points they want to reach) could have the same free-shipping policy as in the US.
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