ERD-1s

[sandtrooper]

I've slowly gotten six Emotiva speakers over the last few months - ERM-8.3s, ERM-6.3, ERM-6.2 and today ERD-1s. The ERD-1s popped up on eBay last weekend, so grabbed them since they're so scarce. Originally the 6.2 was going to be a center, but managed to get a 6.3 cheap soon after.

I still don't have an AVR or subs, but will get there soon.

Should I keep the 6.2 for possible use by adding another one or go ahead and sell it?

Pat

[carlp336]

just one 6.2 ?

[Nemesis.ie]

Scarce eh, I think I have 6 of them sitting in their boxes - maybe I should offer them for sale.

You could use the 6.2 as a rear centre in a 6.x config maybe?

[sandtrooper]

Yeah, just one 6.2. It was going to be the center speaker till I found a cheap 6.3 a few days later. So I can either try to get another one or sell the one I have.

[roadrunner]

I would keep my eyes peeled for another ERM-6.2 if I were you. The 6.2 will have a perfect sonic match to the rest of your Emotiva Reference Series speakers. As was mentioned by another Lounge member, you can always use the 6.2 you do have as a single rear until you can find another 6.2. It might surprise you just how good a single rear set-up can sound.

You now have superb sounding speakers for both HT and 2-channel music. You should get many years of enjoyment from these speakers.

[Nemesis.ie]

Oct 4, 2012 16:16:33 GMT -5 sandtrooper said:

Yeah, just one 6.2. It was going to be the center speaker till I found a cheap 6.3 a few days later. So I can either try to get another one or sell the one I have.

So you don't have room to use it as a rear centre?

I have all my surrounds (6.3s and had a couple of 6.2s as BS previously) on angled shelves high on the wall and when level matched it works very well. So if you have a wall "back there" you might be able to. With the ERDs on the sides in dipole (although I preferred them in bipole even at the side) a 6.2 centre rear high up might add a nice fill/well positioned back/height effects.

[Deleted]

I have 3ea ERM-1's and 2ea ERD-1's. I would sell the 6.2 and use the money toward the sub (get the best powered sub you can afford). Also forget the AVR (big mistake), not enough power for the Emotiva speakers. Save for an Emo XPA-5 amp (will be on sale by Christmas or sooner) and get the best pre-pro you can afford. I would go for the Emo UMC-1 for now.




(RR and others, please don't read this paragraph below ;D)

My best advice is to sell the 6.3 and use the 6.2 for the center (unless you paid almost as much for the 6.2 as the 6.3). I'm not actually going to say that because I'll get crucified by the other members here ;D). I use the ERM-1 as my center and it is great! IMO the 6.3 is only a very slight hair better than the 6.2 and ERM-1 (which are both superb on dialog, plus the 6.2 is a better voice match for the 8.3 IMO). You need to put the money toward what makes the most difference from here on. Don't skimp on the sub. If you want the best HT and music performance go for a big ported sub like from SVS, HSU, Rythmik or Outlaw Audio. These are all online direct companies and have models from about $600 and up that you should consider. If the lowest movie bass in the 18-25Hz or so area is not a priority for you then the Emo X-Ref 12 is good and excellent for music.


PS: Be sure you read the owner's manual and mount the ERD-1's where and with the toggles as recommended. Side walls if practical, up several feet above ear height (maybe 5-6 feet) and in the dipole setting or on the rear wall as a second choice (5-6 feet and at least 4 feet apart or more) and in the bipole setting. Use the rear wall if your seat or sofa is very close to the rear wall or the side wall is not practical.

[Nemesis.ie]

Agreed on not skimping on the sub(s).

[knucklehead]

Oct 5, 2012 2:23:36 GMT -5 @chuckienut said:

My best advice is to sell the 6.3 and use the 6.2 for the center (unless you paid almost as much for the 6.2 as the 6.3). I'm not actually going to say that because I'll get crucified by the other members here ;D). I use the ERM-1 as my center and it is great! IMO the 6.3 is only a very slight hair better than the 6.2 and ERM-1 (which are both superb on dialog, plus the 6.2 is a better voice match for the 8.3 IMO).

+1
I've come to the same conclusion when it comes to the 6.2 vs 6.3 debate. And the ERM-1s are just as good as the 6.2 IMO. I've owned them all and currently have what is shown in my sig line. The ERM-1 is a great little speaker that held its own against the larger 6.2 and 6.3 just fine. The only reason I have the 6.3 center is it came as a package when I bought the 8.3s - and I have the room for them. Anyone looking to set up a nice 2 channel should consider the ERM-1 or 6.2 as they both will do fine - but will need a sub to complete the spectrum. The 8.3s are 'just' a couple of ERM-1s with some 8" woofers grafted to them. I like that they don't need a sub for music.

[Nemesis.ie]

I think where the 6.3 comes into its own is if you have a large room and need the extra power handling that moving the vocals to the 2 x 4" provides.

I went for all 6.3s so I won't have to change them when I get a bigger room and do actually notice a bit of difference versus the 6.2s, but I am using all 6.3s not just fo the centre and not trying to match to 8.3s or ERDs (any more) either.

The 6.3s actually produce quite a bit of bass even with their internal crossover having them start to drop off at 80Hz. Probably a bit more than the 6.2s too due to the larger cabinet.

The next time I have my REW kit out I plan to do a comparison plot of 6.2 vs 6.3 for fun - it might be well into next year before that happens though!

[roadrunner]

I own both the ERM-1 and the ERM-6.3 and they have very similar voicing and both perform far above their cost. I agree with Nemesis that the 6.3s do a better job of moving air in the listening room. I also noticed that the 6.3 has superior soundstage and imaging. With HT it is harder to notice the differences in performance between the various ERM speakers, but for music listening the 6.3's performance is noticeably more resolving of vocals and musical instruments -- particularly with Jazz, classical, chamber music, and choral groups. I believe this is due to the dual 4" drives in the 6.3. Whatever the reason, the 6.3s are more convincing in producing life-like musical presentations.

[sandtrooper]

Just to add some additional information. The living room the HT will be set-up in is 20'X20'X9'. However the left rear corner is open to a dining room, so is not a sealed room.

Denon 4311 is my first choice to power my 5/6 speakers. My interest in getting a UMC-1 is nil. I'm also interested in dual SVS SB12-NSDs for subs. I play bass guitar and like bass that has tight presence - something that is not overpowering and shakes the house apart continuously.

Also I'm not going to be playing at reference levels though I do understand that more available power gives more headroom.

[knucklehead]

A sealed space is more important when you're talking about low frequencies and subwoofers since they need to pressurize the room. The bigger the room the more air the sub needs to move to be effective. A pair of SVS subs might be all you need - maybe more than you need since you don't find bass important.

[Nemesis.ie]

Oct 5, 2012 23:27:52 GMT -5 sandtrooper said:

Just to add some additional information. The living room the HT will be set-up in is 20'X20'X9'. However the left rear corner is open to a dining room, so is not a sealed room.

Denon 4311 is my first choice to power my 5/6 speakers. My interest in getting a UMC-1 is nil. I'm also interested in dual SVS SB12-NSDs for subs. I play bass guitar and like bass that has tight presence - something that is not overpowering and shakes the house apart continuously.

Also I'm not going to be playing at reference levels though I do understand that more available power gives more headroom.

Take a look at the Rythmiks - they really seem to produce bass guitar very naturally.