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Post by rod on Dec 15, 2012 10:30:03 GMT -5
Yes, Big Dan has posted about it twice. I am using one with my XPR-5 with absolutely no issues. It gets so loud before anything will trip. That's good news for me then... I guess I should buy xpr2 today... |
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Post by danr on Dec 15, 2012 10:31:06 GMT -5
^Yes, you should. Just make sure your circuit can handle the total load.
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Post by rod on Dec 15, 2012 10:34:50 GMT -5
^Yes, you should. Just make sure your circuit can handle the total load. That's a good question... How will I know that??? |
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Post by danr on Dec 15, 2012 10:45:02 GMT -5
Assuming you're in the US and have a 15 amp circuit, the circuit can handle 120v x 15 amps = 1,800 watts
Add up the power consumption of all of your equipment. With the amps it gets tricky because you are not likely to be maxing them out. Look for posts by guys who measure the "draw" of their XPR-5s or XPA-1s to get am idea of how much the XPR-2 will draw under normal conditions with avg. sensitivity speakers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 12:24:19 GMT -5
If you are tripping 15 amp breakers using 89db+ sensitivity speakers - YOU ARE PLAYING IT TOO DAMN LOUD!!
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Post by rod on Dec 15, 2012 13:06:48 GMT -5
The other forum with the same issue says that the price of the installation for the dedicated 20 amp line from the outside your house to where you want it can cost you either equal to the price of xpr2 or more... If that is the case, then it is a deal breaker for me. I would rather buy a pair of xpa 1 to power my brand new lsi15 than take a risk wheter or not this new amp can produce a ton of sound quality difference. As for me, I don't want to try it because if it won't make any identifiable sound quality difference then I will have to pay for the return that would cost me more than $100.00 including insurance. My plan is probably wait for a while till I hear from others about thier experience.
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Post by edoggrc51 on Dec 15, 2012 13:27:17 GMT -5
I have my XPR-5 sharing a 15amp circuit with my Denon, SMS-1, Oppo, and ERC-2 with ZERO problems even at or over reference levels.
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Post by LCSeminole on Dec 15, 2012 13:57:18 GMT -5
The other forum with the same issue says that the price of the installation for the dedicated 20 amp line from the outside your house to where you want it can cost you either equal to the price of xpr2 or more... If that is the case, then it is a deal breaker for me. I would rather buy a pair of xpa 1 to power my brand new lsi15 than take a risk wheter or not this new amp can produce a ton of sound quality difference. As for me, I don't want to try it because if it won't make any identifiable sound quality difference then I will have to pay for the return that would cost me more than $100.00 including insurance. My plan is probably wait for a while till I hear from others about their experience. What other forum are you referring to? I just had TWO dedicated 20a circuits installed for my home theater in Sept/Oct and it only cost me $225, I bought the Romex and 20a duplex outlet which only cost $70 total from Home Depot. So a grand total of under $300. Yes it will depend on your electrician and whether they are trying to gouge you or not, but an honest certified electrician will not cost an arm and a leg.  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 15, 2012 14:12:19 GMT -5
The other forum with the same issue says that the price of the installation for the dedicated 20 amp line from the outside your house to where you want it can cost you either equal to the price of xpr2 or more... If that is the case, then it is a deal breaker for me. I would rather buy a pair of xpa 1 to power my brand new lsi15 than take a risk wheter or not this new amp can produce a ton of sound quality difference. As for me, I don't want to try it because if it won't make any identifiable sound quality difference then I will have to pay for the return that would cost me more than $100.00 including insurance. My plan is probably wait for a while till I hear from others about thier experience. As has been stated you can run the XPR-1/2/5 safely on a 15A circuit with an adaptor. Further the XPR series feature class H which (being more efficient) should consume less power than a pair of XPA-1's at a give volume. If you have the power to drive a pair of XPA-1's then you have the power to drive an XPR-2 to the same level, if not higher. |
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Post by rod on Dec 15, 2012 16:16:53 GMT -5
The other forum with the same issue says that the price of the installation for the dedicated 20 amp line from the outside your house to where you want it can cost you either equal to the price of xpr2 or more... If that is the case, then it is a deal breaker for me. I would rather buy a pair of xpa 1 to power my brand new lsi15 than take a risk wheter or not this new amp can produce a ton of sound quality difference. As for me, I don't want to try it because if it won't make any identifiable sound quality difference then I will have to pay for the return that would cost me more than $100.00 including insurance. My plan is probably wait for a while till I hear from others about thier experience. As has been stated you can run the XPR-1/2/5 safely on a 15A circuit with an adaptor. Further the XPR series feature class H which (being more efficient) should consume less power than a pair of XPA-1's at a give volume. If you have the power to drive a pair of XPA-1's then you have the power to drive an XPR-2 to the same level, if not higher. That's really a great news for me. I am extremely glad that someone in this forum can tell me ( or at least assure me ) that I can run xpr2 using that particular adaptor with no electrical hassle. I guess I should really go for it now before it becomes out of stock just like the other new gears of emotiva. What do you think??? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 15, 2012 19:39:24 GMT -5
As has been stated you can run the XPR-1/2/5 safely on a 15A circuit with an adaptor. Further the XPR series feature class H which (being more efficient) should consume less power than a pair of XPA-1's at a give volume. If you have the power to drive a pair of XPA-1's then you have the power to drive an XPR-2 to the same level, if not higher. That's really a great news for me. I am extremely glad that someone in this forum can tell me ( or at least assure me ) that I can run xpr2 using that particular adaptor with no electrical hassle. I guess I should really go for it now before it becomes out of stock just like the other new gears of emotiva. What do you think??? Here is a link to the adapter that Emo has recommended, there are others but with a circuit breaker this one seems extra safe. With the sale going on now seems like the right time to get an XPR-2, or any other Emotiva gear. www.zzounds.com/item--FURADP1520B |
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Post by rod on Dec 16, 2012 14:54:21 GMT -5
That's really a great news for me. I am extremely glad that someone in this forum can tell me ( or at least assure me ) that I can run xpr2 using that particular adaptor with no electrical hassle. I guess I should really go for it now before it becomes out of stock just like the other new gears of emotiva. What do you think??? Here is a link to the adapter that Emo has recommended, there are others but with a circuit breaker this one seems extra safe. With the sale going on now seems like the right time to get an XPR-2, or any other Emotiva gear. www.zzounds.com/item--FURADP1520BI attached this link to my email addressed to the support tech department of emo yesterday. But their reply says that they highly recommemd 20 amp circuit for xpr2. What can you say about this now? |
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Post by harri009 on Dec 16, 2012 15:07:58 GMT -5
Why does the XPR-1 features displayed onto the website precise that a 20 amp circuit dedicated to the amp is necessary ? Is that a compulsory condition if one want to use 'cause I'd probably buy one but if you do have to live into a nuclear center to get these working that's not really simple My current pair of XPA-1 have no dedicated current circuit and they work fine. So with no dedicated 20 amp circuit may I have problems using them . No means to build a new 20 amp circuit, I rent a flat In order to pass testing under lab conditions, which are very demanding, we must use a 20A line cord. As we all know, in a home environment while listening to music, this type of long term power consumption is not going to be encountered due to the low average power levels found in music and movies. Furman makes a very nice line cord adapter with a internal circuit breaker that can be safely used to convert the 20A plug to a standard wall outlet, part number ADP-1520. Hope this helps! Cheers, Big Dan Here is a quote from the president of emotiva commenting on another thread emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=amps&action=display&thread=27569&page=2No matter what customer service says the above is the owner. Just buy the amp already! |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Dec 16, 2012 15:08:44 GMT -5
IMO, they are neigh identical and will sound the same. Same kind of power. I think I'd get the XPR-2 givven the choice today. A bit cheaper, better looking, taking up less space.
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Post by rod on Dec 16, 2012 15:14:16 GMT -5
IMO, they are neigh identical and will sound the same. Same kind of power. I think I'd get the XPR-2 givven the choice today. A bit cheaper, better looking, taking up less space. Do you think you can get the full benefits of xpr2 if you have no dedicated 20 amp circuit at home? I am only asking... |
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Post by danr on Dec 16, 2012 16:40:36 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you? rod, being honest here and no offense meant, but you are stressing about this way too much.  Like I said, I am using one of these converters on a 15amp outlet with my XPR-5...and have absolutely released "The Kracken" (thats what I call my XPR-5, cause that's what Big Dan and Lonnie called it in the June podcast)...and have NOT come close to tripping the 12amp breaker on the converter. My ears would implode before that happens. The XPR series is a different design, and in my experience vs. the 2 XPA series amp modules I've heard (XPA-5 and UPA-1)...sounds much better. And it's not close. Just my opinion. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 16, 2012 16:55:57 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you? rod, being honest here and no offense meant, but you are stressing about this way too much. Like I said, I am using one of these converters on a 15amp outlet with my XPR-5...and have absolutely released "The Kracken" (thats what I call my XPR-5, cause that's what Big Dan and Lonnie called it in the June podcast)...and have NOT come close to tripping the 12amp breaker on the converter. My ears would implode before that happens. The XPR series is a different design, and in my experience vs. the 2 XPA series amp modules I've heard (XPA-5 and UPA-1)...sounds much better. And it's not close. Just my opinion. I'm probably gonna make the move to XPR, but I'm not expecting any SQ difference at all. I'm just doing it because....... Why am I doing it? :-) |
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Post by danr on Dec 16, 2012 17:34:37 GMT -5
I'm probably gonna make the move to XPR, but I'm not expecting any SQ difference at all. I'm just doing it because....... Why am I doing it? :-) Peer pressure from me and Jim  The good looks of the XPR. And many more reasons... ;D Seriously, I think you actually WILL find them to be a step up in sound quality vs. the XPA-5. I can't speak to how they will sound vs. your XPA-1s. I came from 5 x UPA-1...no comparison. I'll take the speed, clarity, & imaging of the XPR any day over the UPA-1. Not knocking the UPA-1s, as they were very dynamic and amazing quality at their price point. But they ain't the XPR. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 16, 2012 17:38:54 GMT -5
I'm probably gonna make the move to XPR, but I'm not expecting any SQ difference at all. I'm just doing it because....... Why am I doing it? :-) Peer pressure from me and Jim The good looks of the XPR. And many more reasons... ;D Seriously, I think you actually WILL find them to be a step up in sound quality vs. the XPA-5. I can't speak to how they will sound vs. your XPA-1s. I came from 5 x UPA-1...no comparison. I'll take the speed, clarity, & imaging of the XPR any day over the UPA-1. Not knocking the UPA-1s, as they were very dynamic and amazing quality at their price point. But they ain't the XPR. XPA-1's are pretty nice..... But I'm frothing over 1000 wpc :-) |
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Post by katjith on Dec 16, 2012 17:50:33 GMT -5
I just ordered XPR-2. I have 15A circuit and will be using Pangea IEC adapter because I intend to use my high quality(10AWG) 15A power cord with the XPR-2. All I have to do is plug the adapter to the back of XPR-2 and plug my heavy duty cord to the Pangea(part number PG2015ADP) available through Audio Advisor.Nobody has mentioned about what gauge power cord comes with XPR-2. All your experts advice would be appreciated.I have Polk audio RTIA7 speakers and they are fairly higher in sensitivity.So,I don't think I will trip the 15A circuit in my home. I might not have to use more than 50W to play them pretty loud and with the power XPR's have I think it will be enough to get every tiny details out of recordings.What do you guys think?
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Like I said, I am using one of these converters on a 15amp outlet with my XPR-5...and have absolutely released "The Kracken" (thats what I call my XPR-5, cause that's what Big Dan and Lonnie called it in the June podcast)...and have NOT come close to tripping the 12amp breaker on the converter. My ears would implode before that happens.
The good looks of the XPR. And many more reasons... ;D