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Post by ske on Jan 6, 2013 13:34:25 GMT -5
We have a M&K V-75 from 1995 which does a pretty good job with our 1.7's.
Just for kicks, I placed a Klipsch RW-8 at the opposite corner of the front wall to see how the bass response in the room was affected. There was enough of an improvement to make me want to either add a new sub to the M&K, or replace the M&K with a matched pair. The trick is that I need to keep to a budget of $1200.
We enjoy movies and music with a Yamaha RX-A820, and Emotiva XPA-2/XPA-3. Magnepan 1.7, Klipsch RC-35 Center, and SS-.5 surrounds augmented with the Klipsch RW-8 (until yesterday). I have GIK Tri-Traps at the front wall corners, floor to ceiling, and various other panels around the room.
I would sure appreciate any suggestions. I was considering old M&K's used, but there is alot of newer technology out there. I just cannot bring myself to pay the current Kreisel prices. I have been looking at the Emotiva Xref-12's, but I'm not sure I like all the built in electronics. I don't have the gear to do a room analysis, so I'm not sure I would even take advantage of the PEQ...
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 14:01:14 GMT -5
How big is your room, and how loud do you listen?
The Emo subs seem to be well liked, especially for music.
I'd also look at the HSU Research offerings. It would be a little over 1,200 for two subs, but they provide excellent performance for the money.
Also look into Outlaw Audio. I've used their subs for about five years now, and they are very good for the money. They are actually based on the HSU subs (VTF-2 and VTF-3) and use most of the same parts.
You could get one big sub, but I think you'd be better off with two good subs and the more even response throughout the room.
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Post by ske on Jan 6, 2013 14:12:52 GMT -5
The room is about 15w x 20dp, and alot open to the rest of the house on one side. Average music listening anywhere from 60-80dB, and we like action movies.
I could keep the M&K and add a new one to it. Perhaps a vented, or dual driver?
Have you heard much about Power Sound Audio?
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 14:24:37 GMT -5
The room is about 15w x 20dp, and alot open to the rest of the house on one side. Average music listening anywhere from 60-80dB, and we like action movies. I could keep the M&K and add a new one to it. Perhaps a vented, or dual driver? Have you heard much about Power Sound Audio? I have a little bit bigger room than you, and my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus performs very nicely. You could just add another sub and keep using the M&K, but I would recommend using two identical subs. Powersound is a new company that was founded by one of the guys who started SVS, and they are supposed to be very good. I've been considering the XV30, which looks to be one hell of a performer. They also have the sealed XS30 that would probably be very good for both movies and music. Plus, they have Emotiva like customer service and they're made in America. |
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 14:31:48 GMT -5
Maybe Matt (kraemer designs) will respond. He has a Powersound and he loves it. In fact, he's going to buy a second one here soon.
I think if you could increase your budget a little and buy two Powersound XS15's, you would be very happy.
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Post by ske on Jan 6, 2013 16:14:49 GMT -5
I am seriously considering that. My only concern is if they are as fine for music as they are for bass heavy movies.
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 16:19:55 GMT -5
I am seriously considering that. My only concern is if they are as fine for music as they are for bass heavy movies. I wouldn't worry about that. Especially with the sealed versions. Matt loves the XS15 in his two channel system. |
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Post by ske on Jan 6, 2013 16:45:44 GMT -5
I am seriously considering that. My only concern is if they are as fine for music as they are for bass heavy movies. I wouldn't worry about that. Especially with the sealed versions. Matt loves the XS15 in his two channel system. Oops, I misread your last post. I thought you were referring to the ported model. My room is not enclosed, and basically opens up to the rest of the house (2000 sf ranch, 8 foot ceilings. The sealed M&K has a real nice sound, but any punch just gets lost. Add the ported Klipsch, and the overall quality goes down, but it adds some punch. So I am considering the ported model... |
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 16:53:50 GMT -5
Well, you could go with one XV30. Ported with dual 15" drivers. I'm sure it would provide all the output and punch that you need. But I'm sure the sealed model would too. They say that the sealed XS30 has a wicked mid-bass punch to it. It's a tough decision.
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 16:56:37 GMT -5
I would email or call them. They love to talk to people and give great advice, and they won't try to upsell you at all.
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Post by ske on Jan 6, 2013 17:19:11 GMT -5
I've just sent an email with photos of the room.
That XS30 looks pretty amazing, and would save some cash. I interested to hear what they have to say...
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Post by Pauly on Jan 6, 2013 17:22:23 GMT -5
I've just sent an email with photos of the room. That XS30 looks pretty amazing, and would save some cash. I interested to hear what they have to say... There ya go, good idea. I'm sure they'll give you a good recommendation. If you end up with the XS30, I can't wait to hear what you think. Be sure to report back with a review. Good luck. |
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Post by ske on Jan 10, 2013 17:59:02 GMT -5
XS30 is on order. My wife insisted (isn't she great)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 18:15:36 GMT -5
Just got my second XS-15 today.
HAHAHAHA stupid crazy.
Just wait till the girl gets home from the gym ;D
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 10, 2013 18:32:46 GMT -5
That's excellent Matt! Can't wait to hear that your jaw drops at having dual subs. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 22:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 10, 2013 22:14:43 GMT -5
Those are some really nice looking amp stands you got there Matt! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 22:17:40 GMT -5
Those are some really nice looking amp stands you got there Matt! ;D It's a perfect match!! But for some reason the amp stands rumble ;D |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 10, 2013 22:26:33 GMT -5
Those are some really nice looking amp stands you got there Matt! ;D It's a perfect match!! But for some reason the amp stands rumble ;D Very Cool!!! Bass Shaker amp stands! On a serious note, I bet they sound every bit as good as my dual SVS PB12-Plus'.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 22:29:23 GMT -5
To get back on topic. I'm very interested in the OP's thoughts on the XS-30. I asked Tom over at PSA about speaks. Oh yeah baby!! In the works |
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