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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 18:04:13 GMT -5
Did y'all see this? streamingtvguide.blogspot.com/2013/01/cbs-forces-cnet-to-retract-best-of-ces.htmlCBS forced CNET to retract their CES Best of Show award to Dish Network for their Hopper box. Apparently the Hopper allows users to skip commercials at will. And CBS was absolutely in a froth over it. So, because they also own CNET, they forced CNET to withdraw their Best Of Show award for the Hopper. My one hope is that Dish Network is able to chip-ify and license that technology so that other companies can incorporate it into their devices. If I never see another "Discount Double-Check" (or Progressive Ins., or Chevy trucks, and on and on) commercial it'll be a-okay with me... Shame on CBS!!! -RW- |
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Post by traider79 on Jan 17, 2013 18:18:00 GMT -5
Man this look to be awesome technology but lets hope it goes everywhere.
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Post by audiofile on Jan 17, 2013 19:34:52 GMT -5
So what's CBS gonna do to Netflix then? You get no commercials between segments of shows there.
What a bunch of short sighted, money grubbing network execs. All they had to do was work out a deal with DISH.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jan 18, 2013 2:30:23 GMT -5
With Netflix you are subscribing to the service that in turn pays for the programming, the CBS network uses advertising to pay for this. However this certainly hurts CNETS credibility.
Obviously it only works on recorded programming, and I personally don't mind hitting the skip button to go through commercials recorded on my current Dish DVR. That said I'd like a Hopper and Joey to add a couple recorders and eliminate the HDMI cable running to my bedroom.
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Post by jdskycaster on Jan 18, 2013 8:59:11 GMT -5
I have had two Hoppers for almost a year now. Excellent technology, thanks Dish. I do have to pay a monthly fee in order to receive my free OTA channels via satellite.
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 18, 2013 9:09:31 GMT -5
Dish, Directv, and cable companies must pay CBS and others for their programming and in turn the customers' rates go up and they STILL are subjected to advertisements. Advertisement was originally just a way for free broadcasters to make money on their service. Free information is rapidly disappearing these days thanks to a business favoring FCC. Replay was put out of business for the skipping ability of their video recorders, much to the chagrin of many owners of their equipment. Third party software can add this feature to media center recorders, but but it is probably illegal (as a result of court rulings overturning personal recording rights in the last decade due to pressure by the entertainment content giants). Sure, we can hit the skip button, but we can't save the vast storage space that advertisements take up on our hard discs.
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Post by bootman on Jan 18, 2013 10:57:02 GMT -5
I will be shocked if the commercial skip feature makes it out alive in 2013.
CBS will win this suit.
Dish should have just had a 30 sec skip button just like everyone else and saved themselves $$$ that will in turn just cause rates to go up even more.
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Post by jdskycaster on Jan 18, 2013 11:57:29 GMT -5
Dish does have a 30 sec skip button. I use it everyday even on programming that I decide to activate autohop on. If autohop goes away it is really no big deal as it is only good several hours after the program airs and is then also only available on the free networks that I pay for. Every user has to manually activate this feature for each and every program you want to use it on. Either way we are pushing buttons - multiple 30 second skips or a couple of presses to use autohop.
The networks may ultimately win but I really hope not. If they do win they will most likely go after the 30 sec skip button next.
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Post by bootman on Jan 18, 2013 13:38:19 GMT -5
Dish does have a 30 sec skip button. I use it everyday even on programming that I decide to activate autohop on. If autohop goes away it is really no big deal as it is only good several hours after the program airs and is then also only available on the free networks that I pay for. Every user has to manually activate this feature for each and every program you want to use it on. Either way we are pushing buttons - multiple 30 second skips or a couple of presses to use autohop. The networks may ultimately win but I really hope not. If they do win they will most likely go after the 30 sec skip button next. They won't go after that. Virtually every DVR has that now. |
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Jan 18, 2013 13:45:38 GMT -5
I will be shocked if the commercial skip feature makes it out alive in 2013. CBS will win this suit. Dish should have just had a 30 sec skip button just like everyone else and saved themselves $$$ that will in turn just cause rates to go up even more. bootman's right. And those who are all objecting are wrong. After all - if all commercials could be entirely skipped, then who's going to finance the networks who in turn produce the shows we all like to watch? Only the very short-sighted can't understand this very basic tenant of economics... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 14:08:20 GMT -5
>> Only the very short-sighted can't understand this very basic tenant of economics... <<
First of all it's "tenet" not "tenant". Secondly, why should we be subjected to commercials if we do not wish to view them? It is just another portion of the overall broadcast and we should have the freedom to view or not view what we choose. No one forces us to watch the entire broadcast now, why should we not have the capability to view only the portions of the show that we find interesting?
And, finally, I don't give a toss how the network obtains its income. But I damn sure have a problem with them telling me that I MUST watch the commercials whether I wish to or not...Screw CBS.
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Post by monkumonku on Jan 18, 2013 15:18:00 GMT -5
>> Only the very short-sighted can't understand this very basic tenant of economics... << First of all it's "tenet" not "tenant". Secondly, why should we be subjected to commercials if we do not wish to view them? It is just another portion of the overall broadcast and we should have the freedom to view or not view what we choose. No one forces us to watch the entire broadcast now, why should we not have the capability to view only the portions of the show that we find interesting? And, finally, I don't give a toss how the network obtains its income. But I damn sure have a problem with them telling me that I MUST watch the commercials whether I wish to or not...Screw CBS. -RW- But you don't have to watch the commercials. You can close your eyes... and put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la" when they are running. ;D I imagine we could wind up with a Supreme Court case in which the argument would be that since the sponsors are paying money to fund the broadcasting of the program that the commercials must be available for viewing, regardless of whether people pay attention to them or not. And if they decide they do not want to have that availability, then the program would be deemed not sponsored in which case the viewer would have to pay a fee to watch it.  |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 18, 2013 15:23:41 GMT -5
My point is, that unless you have an over the air antenna setup, you are indeed paying a fee to watch it. All networks charge cable companies for use of their programming and that cost is passed along to 'you know who'!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 16:23:15 GMT -5
Monku wrote:
>> I imagine we could wind up with a Supreme Court case in which the argument would be that since the sponsors are paying money to fund the broadcasting of the program that the commercials must be available for viewing <<
But they ARE available for viewing. This device simply allows the consumer the option of not watching them if they choose. It does not strip the commercials out of the program.
Secondly, as MgbPuff wrote:
"My point is, that unless you have an over the air antenna setup, you are indeed paying a fee to watch it. All networks charge cable companies for use of their programming and that cost is passed along to 'you know who'! "
Exactly, we are already paying a fee. And since we are paying that fee, we have the right to view the program as we deem fit. CBS's quashing of CNET's award of the Best In Show is yet another heavy-handed example of big business trying to control our lives. Eff 'em!!
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