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Post by 111autowholesalers on Feb 15, 2013 11:30:32 GMT -5
Hello HIFI Word-
I'm new to this stuff so the question is.
Running a windows PC -
Whats the best setting for Jriver.
I have a Emotiva XD1 & Emotiva UPA-2 AMP with Bowers & Wilkins 658
I have lots of HD Files .
Running the DAC with a usb cable from my windows PC ...
I see lots of setting in Jriver , Just looking for some go advice ....
Thank you
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Post by GreenKiwi on Feb 15, 2013 11:34:58 GMT -5
If you have high Rez files you'll probably want to use optical or coax so you can get the high Rez file out.
As for jriver settings, your best bet is to pop over to their forums. They are very active with tons of experienced users.
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Post by ngmitter on Feb 15, 2013 11:54:47 GMT -5
Change the audio output to Wasapi - Event Style and that should do it. If you have any issues with the sample rate, you may need to force it to your DAC's limits in the settings.
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Post by 111autowholesalers on Feb 15, 2013 11:55:47 GMT -5
optical or coax
From the PC ?
Not sure how i would do that , Do need some kind of audio card from my pc for that ... ?
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Post by copperband on Feb 15, 2013 12:41:42 GMT -5
yeah, you need to have a sound card which has either coax or optical output
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Post by drtrey3 on Feb 15, 2013 14:08:12 GMT -5
Great advice all around, I concur with it all! I have used the Maudio cards which are relatively inexpensive and sound quite nice! These careds use a coax out.
Trey
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Post by maximumkahuna on Feb 15, 2013 14:36:51 GMT -5
You can get a usb/spdif converter and just go coax into the xda-1. Sound cards often have lots of jitter and you may be better off bypassing the card and using usb out with the converter. Or for the price of a good converter, like a MF v-link 192 you can get a xda-2. Ooops, just saw v-link 192s are now half price. Makes a nice alternative to a new dac. Lots of good choices for dacs in the $350 - $500 range.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 15:54:18 GMT -5
I use JRiver for music only. My video card has a HDMI plug (most do these days) so I use it to plug into my UMC-1 (using the excellent umc-1 dacs) and my big TV screen as display.
I just did an un-natural act for a guy; I looked at the instructions for J River. I discovered "Theatre Mode" (select "View" -> "Theatre mode"). Wow, am I ever impressed; try it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 2:44:46 GMT -5
I'm a newbie in PC audio. Just getting my XDA-2 hooked up. JRiver will be down the road a bit for me. But my question is, why use the coax in on the DAC? Why not use USB out on the PC to USB in on the DAC (XDA-2)?
Thanks
PS: Is the Wasapi audio out on the JRiver or on the PC somewhere?
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Post by emovac on Feb 16, 2013 3:33:22 GMT -5
I'm a newbie in PC audio. Just getting my XDA-2 hooked up. JRiver will be down the road a bit for me. But my question is, why use the coax in on the DAC? Why not use USB out on the PC to USB in on the DAC (XDA-2)? Thanks PS: Is the Wasapi audio out on the JRiver or on the PC somewhere? It is a setting on JRMC. Tools, Options, Audio, "Audio output" select output mode.
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Post by GreenKiwi on Feb 16, 2013 11:03:36 GMT -5
I'm a newbie in PC audio. Just getting my XDA-2 hooked up. JRiver will be down the road a bit for me. But my question is, why use the coax in on the DAC? Why not use USB out on the PC to USB in on the DAC (XDA-2)? Thanks PS: Is the Wasapi audio out on the JRiver or on the PC somewhere? Only because the OP has an XDA-1 and wants to play high res files. If he just had cd quality 44/48khz music, USB would have been just fine. And certainly is until he gets a different solution. With the XDA-2, I would definitely go USB.
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Post by drtrey3 on Feb 16, 2013 11:07:04 GMT -5
Chuckie, I use the Maudio card and WASAPI. I can run a coax out from the card to the DAC, although I am currently DACless. 8( My understanding is that USB is typically higher in jitter than the coax out, so I try to avoid the usb out.
I think you will really like Jriver!
Trey
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Post by maximumkahuna on Feb 16, 2013 13:49:41 GMT -5
Chuckie, I use the Maudio card and WASAPI. I can run a coax out from the card to the DAC, although I am currently DACless. 8( My understanding is that USB is typically higher in jitter than the coax out, so I try to avoid the usb out. I think you will really like Jriver! Trey This thread could go on forever debating usb vs coax. It often comes down to the implementation in the particular dac. If the dac has both try each and see which one you like better. Reasonably high quality cables are relatively inexpensive so it can't hurt to compare inputs. Agreed that JRiver is really good. It sounded better than itunes on my pc. Just didn't like to play nice with my SB Touch. I am going to go back and make it work. IMHO the sound improvement is worth the trouble.
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Post by audiofile on Feb 16, 2013 15:25:33 GMT -5
I used JRiver out of my server to an optical which fed the XDA-1 DAC. I tried Wasapi-Event style settings but got no sound (maybe a conflict with WHS 2011) so I went back to Wasapi and it all worked fine.
It wasn't a bad way to go but the optical out of the server sound card was not the optimal solution and I was limited to 16 bit/44.1kHz playback. I bypassed the server sound card and the optical out on it by going to an Ethernet based solution. I implemented a Simaudio MiND 180 streamer with an AES/EBU connection direct to the DAC which allowed me to play the FLAC files I have. With the streamer on the network, there are no dropouts and I get full playback up to 24bit /192 kHz.
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 28, 2013 7:36:07 GMT -5
JRiver is about to be available for Mac. I'm interested! How do you Windoze guys like JRiver? Is their database more robust than iTunes?
With the Mac, I'd have the options of running the optical TOSLINK connection to a DAC, using the internal MacBook DAC (NOT a good choice, to my ears), or using the AudioQuest Dragonfly external USB DAC. Preferences (keeping in mind that this is Mac hardware, not Windoze)?
Thanks - Boomzilla
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Post by ribbonking on Feb 28, 2013 8:51:31 GMT -5
JRiver is about to be available for Mac. I'm interested! How do you Windoze guys like JRiver? Is their database more robust than iTunes? With the Mac, I'd have the options of running the optical TOSLINK connection to a DAC, using the internal MacBook DAC (NOT a good choice, to my ears), or using the AudioQuest Dragonfly external USB DAC. Preferences (keeping in mind that this is Mac hardware, not Windoze)? Thanks - Boomzilla I am a big fan of J. River for Windows. They are offering the Apple version now but acknowledge its not yet a finished product. USB versus Optical on a Mac - seems to be a never ending debate, like many in the audio world. I've used both coax out and USB out on my PC and don't notice any significant differences. Both connections went to external DAC's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 8:52:36 GMT -5
You can't get better; and its half-priced right now for Apple! /b
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 28, 2013 11:16:13 GMT -5
Thanks guys - I'll try it! I appreciate the feedback.
Boomzilla
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Post by GreenKiwi on Feb 28, 2013 11:43:44 GMT -5
@boom I have been using it on the Mac, it has a few kinks, but was def usable. I just set it to auto import my music from my iTunes library location. It doesn't move the files, just links to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 12:21:35 GMT -5
I am using a netbook via hdmi (netbook>hdmi out>Sherwood>hdmi in) for music streaming in my system. The DAC's in the Sherwood are pretty good and the over sound is pretty satisfying using MOG (streams at 320kbps). Will Jriver improve the sound any with music streaming? Or, is it for only HD tracks?
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