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Post by guitarsteve on Mar 6, 2013 21:14:21 GMT -5
Can someone advise is this comparable to a USP-1 or an XSP-1?
I can't find any reviews or comments online.
I had a USP-1 but didn't like the volume control which had too large a step.
I realise it doesn't have the bass management but more interested in the volume and the sound.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 6, 2013 21:24:35 GMT -5
It's likely comparable. The 10 year warranty comes with the pre-1 though. It does have xlr inputs and outputs.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 6, 2013 21:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by geebo on Mar 6, 2013 21:41:21 GMT -5
Can someone advise is this comparable to a USP-1 or an XSP-1? I can't find any reviews or comments online. I had a USP-1 but didn't like the volume control which had too large a step. I realise it doesn't have the bass management but more interested in the volume and the sound. I have one that I'm very pleased with. I've never had a USP-1 to compare it to, though. But I think it's pretty much a USP-1 sans bass management but with balanced connections and bypassable tone controls. |
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Post by edoggrc51 on Mar 6, 2013 22:06:10 GMT -5
Can someone advise is this comparable to a USP-1 or an XSP-1? I can't find any reviews or comments online. I had a USP-1 but didn't like the volume control which had too large a step. I realise it doesn't have the bass management but more interested in the volume and the sound. I have one that I'm very pleased with. I've never had a USP-1 to compare it to, though. But I think it's pretty much a USP-1 sans bass management but with balanced connections and bypassable tone controls. How's the HT bypass on it?? Im assuming it does 2ch FULL RANGE (unlike the USP-1) since there's a lack of bass management correct? |
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Post by Whrlwndz on Mar 7, 2013 3:54:07 GMT -5
The sale price of the Pre 1 got me intrigued, but I suppose its not fully balanced like the XSP, although it does take balanced inputs. And no Sub out either.
so I'm still lusting for the XSP, even if I don't need it!
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Post by geebo on Mar 7, 2013 8:12:52 GMT -5
I have one that I'm very pleased with. I've never had a USP-1 to compare it to, though. But I think it's pretty much a USP-1 sans bass management but with balanced connections and bypassable tone controls. How's the HT bypass on it?? Im assuming it does 2ch FULL RANGE (unlike the USP-1) since there's a lack of bass management correct? HT bypass is indeed full range only. And it can accept XLR inputs for HT. |
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Post by jackfish on Mar 7, 2013 9:58:38 GMT -5
I find the Sherbourn PRE-1 to be deficient in many ways that have already been expressed. I'm also disappointed that the webpage description of the unit is in error.
Doesn't exist. Poor attention to detail.
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Post by geebo on Mar 7, 2013 10:33:23 GMT -5
I find the Sherbourn PRE-1 to be deficient in many ways that have already been expressed. I'm also disappointed that the webpage description of the unit is in error. Doesn't exist. Poor attention to detail. So if I don't need BM in my pre, where is it deficient? |
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Post by jackfish on Mar 7, 2013 10:41:27 GMT -5
The Sherbourn PRE-1 is now advertised with a 5 year warranty.
If one doesn't need bass management they are free to pay $476 for the PRE-1 which doesn't. For $100 less there is the Emotiva USP-1 which has some features the PRE-1 does not, and lacks some features the PRE-1 has. Pick your poison based on your requirements.
Easily corrected with a pair of Rothwell -10dB attenuators and still costs less than the PRE-1.
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Post by geebo on Mar 7, 2013 10:48:19 GMT -5
The Sherbourn PRE-1 is now advertised with a 5 year warranty. If one doesn't need bass management they are free to pay $476 for the PRE-1 which doesn't. For $100 less there is the Emotiva USP-1 which has some features the PRE-1 does not, and lacks some features the PRE-1 has. Pick your poison based on your requirements. Easily corrected with a pair of Rothwell -10dB attenuators and still costs less than the PRE-1. Exactly. For some the USP may be deficient if you want XLR and tone controls. The only feature the PRE-1 is missing as compared to the USP-1 is BM. That's it. And it adds XLR inputs for an analog source and HT bypass as well as XLR outputs. Bypassable tone controls are also present on the PRE-1. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 7, 2013 12:19:43 GMT -5
If you want a subwoofer in a 2.1 system, couldn't you just use the balanced or un-balanced outputs on the PRE-1 and connect those to a subwoofer?
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Post by geebo on Mar 7, 2013 12:29:48 GMT -5
If you want a subwoofer in a 2.1 system, couldn't you just use the balanced or un-balanced outputs on the PRE-1 and connect those to a subwoofer? Yes. Both the XLR and RCA outputs are active at all times. I have my amp connected via XLR so the L/R RCAs are free. You would just have to set a crossover on the sub and the fronts would still get the full range signal. |
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Post by paradigmE on Mar 7, 2013 16:31:04 GMT -5
I find the Sherbourn PRE-1 to be deficient in many ways that have already been expressed. I'm also disappointed that the webpage description of the unit is in error. Doesn't exist. Poor attention to detail. Also was just confused by this after reading that section then looking through the manual. The only feature the PRE-1 is missing as compared to the USP-1 is BM. That's it. And Also people should note the HT bypass is 2.0 only unlike the USP-1 2.1 HT |
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Post by geebo on Mar 7, 2013 16:36:38 GMT -5
I find the Sherbourn PRE-1 to be deficient in many ways that have already been expressed. I'm also disappointed that the webpage description of the unit is in error. Doesn't exist. Poor attention to detail. Also was just confused by this after reading that section then looking through the manual. The only feature the PRE-1 is missing as compared to the USP-1 is BM. That's it. And Also people should note the HT bypass is 2.0 only unlike the USP-1 2.1 HT Well...yes, but the .1 is bass management (BM) which we agree the PRE-1 doesn't have. |
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Post by edoggrc51 on Mar 7, 2013 17:34:54 GMT -5
Its good to have choices fellas. ;D
Using a sub music, then go for the USP-1 and its bass management.
Using FULL RANGE speakers (no sub) for music, then go for the PRE-1 and its FULL RANGE HT-Byass feature.
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Post by audiosanity on Jun 15, 2013 3:58:58 GMT -5
If one doesn't need bass management they are free to pay $476 for the PRE-1 which doesn't. For $100 less there is the Emotiva USP-1 which has some features the PRE-1 does not, and lacks some features the PRE-1 has. Pick your poison based on your requirements. With current sales prices, the PRE-1 is actually $20 cheaper than the USP-1  The specs look identical. I'll take tone controls over HT 2.1 any day. |
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Post by gentlejax on Oct 9, 2019 19:23:21 GMT -5
If you want a subwoofer in a 2.1 system, couldn't you just use the balanced or un-balanced outputs on the PRE-1 and connect those to a subwoofer? Yes. Both the XLR and RCA outputs are active at all times. I have my amp connected via XLR so the L/R RCAs are free. You would just have to set a crossover on the sub and the fronts would still get the full range signal. I Know this is old and probably irrelevant BUT if both the XLR and RCA are active what is the switch on the PRE-1 doing that says Balanced or Unbalanced ? |
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Post by geebo on Oct 9, 2019 19:31:30 GMT -5
Yes. Both the XLR and RCA outputs are active at all times. I have my amp connected via XLR so the L/R RCAs are free. You would just have to set a crossover on the sub and the fronts would still get the full range signal. I Know this is old and probably irrelevant BUT if both the XLR and RCA are active what is the switch on the PRE-1 doing that says Balanced or Unbalanced ? That switch is to select the CD INPUT. Depending whether you use the unbalanced outputs of your CD player or, if equipped, the balanced outputs. It sets which pair is used when the CD input is selected and has no effect on the outputs of the PRE-1 |
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Post by gentlejax on Oct 11, 2019 15:08:48 GMT -5
I Know this is old and probably irrelevant BUT if both the XLR and RCA are active what is the switch on the PRE-1 doing that says Balanced or Unbalanced ? That switch is to select the CD INPUT. Depending whether you use the unbalanced outputs of your CD player or, if equipped, the balanced outputs. It sets which pair is used when the CD input is selected and has no effect on the outputs of the PRE-1 Actually there is a switch for "CD input" and I think another for "HT" so I was mis-remembering.
But right after I wrote that post I went in and hooked up the rca cables to the output and left the Balanced plugged in and got NOTHING out of the RCA side. then I split the XLR outs and everything worked fine.
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The specs look identical.