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Post by douglas on Mar 8, 2013 9:45:01 GMT -5
On Tuesday on this week the pair XPR-1 arrived and by 4PM the electricians had left after changing the outlets to the right configuration. I already had the 20 amp circuits. After running for 48 hours things are starting to sound good. Very good. What has surprised me the most has been the top end. I expected a big botton but these amps so open and clear. Has anybody heard them running at 220 volts More later Douglas
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Post by chopin on Mar 8, 2013 23:14:02 GMT -5
I am thinking seriously also to buy the XPR-1 but since the introduction of this amp i am still waiting and waiting for a professionnal review !! For god sake why it is so rare to read a professionnal review for emotiva products it is not that i don't trust or beleive what you are saying about it, but i need to have some audio magazine independant to give us an honnest and objectif review of the XPR-1 or the XPR-2. When i have send an email asking absolute sound magazine about the reason they don't review the new amp of emotiva they said to me that Emotiva never want to send them their products for review !!! so when i need some informations about it all i got is users reviews like you and me !!! Sorry for that but i reach a point of frustration. Thanks
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 8, 2013 23:22:21 GMT -5
I am thinking seriously also to buy the XPR-1 but since the introduction of this amp i am still waiting and waiting for a professionnal review !! For god sake why it is so rare to read a professionnal review for emotiva products it is not that i don't trust or beleive what you are saying about it, but i need to have some audio magazine independant to give us an honnest and objectif review of the XPR-1 or the XPR-2. When i have send an email asking absolute sound magazine about the reason they don't review the new amp of emotiva they said to me that Emotiva never want to send them their products for review !!! so when i need some informations about it all i got is users reviews like you and me !!! Sorry for that but i reach a point of frustration. Thanks Well just because a review appears in an audio magazine doesn't necessarily mean it is independent or credible. Magazines have advertisers... and also there is a wide range of reviewers. It will be difficult for an audio publication to really rave about the XPR-1 because of its relatively low price compared to the competition (who also may be spending advertising dollars with that magazine). Come out with TOO good of a review and then people will wonder why should they spend 5x more for an amp?
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Post by chopin on Mar 8, 2013 23:52:09 GMT -5
Thanks for your opinion, i appreciated very much.
Beleive me if i see a review for an amp that cost 5x or 10 x by any audio magazine i will not even bother to read it, and this is what i mean. Mcintosh never spend a dollar for advertising at absolute sound for exemple, but they review many of their products. Their is for sure many audio magazines in the market who made a rave review that is not very credible or objectifs for the reason of advertizing, but not all of them, and i gived you an exemple about it. For a product that we can not even found in the market beside internet, the professional review became even more important and critical for emotiva futur customers.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Mar 9, 2013 14:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 9, 2013 15:48:37 GMT -5
OK, I have 2 XPR-1 amps. and a XPR-5 and they sound fabulous. Big soundstage, nuanced, tight well controlled bass and shimmering highs. Completely transparent. Likes good media and cables....
I am just as professional as anyone else, 30 years an audiophile and if they sucked I'd say so....
They are a steal for $1500 ea..
My full review is coming soon..
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 9, 2013 15:54:16 GMT -5
I am thinking seriously also to buy the XPR-1 but since the introduction of this amp i am still waiting and waiting for a professionnal review !! For god sake why it is so rare to read a professionnal review for emotiva products it is not that i don't trust or beleive what you are saying about it, but i need to have some audio magazine independant to give us an honnest and objectif review of the XPR-1 or the XPR-2. When i have send an email asking absolute sound magazine about the reason they don't review the new amp of emotiva they said to me that Emotiva never want to send them their products for review !!! so when i need some informations about it all i got is users reviews like you and me !!! Sorry for that but i reach a point of frustration. Thanks Your waiting for an independent review? Thats funny. All those guys with very few exceptions are in the tank.. They are humans just like you and me. They only thing they do better is pull out the thesaurus so they can describe "open and airy" in 19 ways..
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Mar 9, 2013 16:29:15 GMT -5
I guess I'm 'in the tank' too, 'cause I love my XPR-5! Yeah, I know its not an XPR-1 so its not directly comparable, but it is pretty much the same kind of amp, and it has made a very nice/positive difference in my home theater's sound.
Its dead quiet, runs cool, has smooth, silky and detailed highs, and controls my woofers like nobody's business! Yup. Love it. And I figured for the price there was so little down side risk that I'd go for it. I have not been disappointed, its everything I wanted and expected, but also much more.
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 9, 2013 17:10:07 GMT -5
Why someone has to wait for someone else to tell them its OK to buy something is sad. I bought those amps and if they didn't sound good I'd send them back. I don't need any Julian Hirsch type telling me what I will like. I can make up my own mind. :-)
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 9, 2013 17:48:21 GMT -5
Why someone has to wait for someone else to tell them its OK to buy something is sad. I bought those amps and if they didn't sound good I'd send them back. I don't need any Julian Hirsch type telling me what I will like. I can make up my own mind. :-) Agreed, except there's only one "drawback" to sending them back and that's dealing with a hernia from having to lift up the amps again. However, I doubt anyone would be unhappy and return them.
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 9, 2013 18:45:09 GMT -5
Why someone has to wait for someone else to tell them its OK to buy something is sad. I bought those amps and if they didn't sound good I'd send them back. I don't need any Julian Hirsch type telling me what I will like. I can make up my own mind. :-) Agreed, except there's only one "drawback" to sending them back and that's dealing with a hernia from having to lift up the amps again. However, I doubt anyone would be unhappy and return them. Don't worry, you'll be getting your XPR's soon enough.... I feel it in the force.. :-)
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 9, 2013 19:00:18 GMT -5
Agreed, except there's only one "drawback" to sending them back and that's dealing with a hernia from having to lift up the amps again. However, I doubt anyone would be unhappy and return them. Don't worry, you'll be getting your XPR's soon enough.... I feel it in the force.. :-) Actually I think Emo makes those amps really heavy on purpose just to discourage anyone from shipping them back. Open them up and they are probably filled with lead shot. ;D
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Post by garym on Mar 9, 2013 19:10:42 GMT -5
They are humans just like you and me. They only thing they do better is pull out the thesaurus so they can describe "open and airy" in 19 ways..
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 9, 2013 20:04:03 GMT -5
OK, I have 2 XPR-1 amps. and a XPR-5 and they sound fabulous. Big soundstage, nuanced, tight well controlled bass and shimmering highs. Completely transparent. Likes good media and cables.... I am just as professional as anyone else, 30 years an audiophile and if they sucked I'd say so.... They are a steal for $1500 ea.. My full review is coming soon.. I know I've not written a formal review (nor do I expect to in the foreseeable future) on either my XPR-2 or XPR-5, as I'd much rather sit back and enjoy them. I have to admit I expected the controlled tight bass as Ed stated, but what I didn't expect was as Ed stated again, the shimmering highs, both highs and lows seem to me to be more pronounced even at lower volumes than my past power amplifiers (maybe this is mind playing tricks but I don't think so), and at reference levels, as someone I can't remember described it, they just sneek up on you.
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Post by tchaik on Mar 9, 2013 20:31:00 GMT -5
dear chopin......
back in the 80's i loved to read the reviews of equipment in 'the absolute sound'. after a while i saw a pattern emerge. the next moment of audio nirvana had just arrived that is a 'quantum leap' ahead of harry pearson's last favorite amp costing thousands more than the previous amp. how is that with multiple quantum leaps forward and substantial debt, the actual improvement from the first to the last amp is still miniscule at best.
trust your own ears. take the 30 day trial and find out for yourself. after owning audio research, krell, spectral, brb, hafler, adcom, nad and other amps (all which were very good in their own right) i have to say without equivocation that my emotiva amps are the best i have ever owned.
don't wait for a subjective review from an audio rag to make your decision. enjoy the reviews for what they are. informative, entertaining, sometimes enlightening but never definitive.
see what the owners have to say, then give it a try. you can always send it back.
tchaik..............
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 9, 2013 21:47:13 GMT -5
OK, I have 2 XPR-1 amps. and a XPR-5 and they sound fabulous. Big soundstage, nuanced, tight well controlled bass and shimmering highs. Completely transparent. Likes good media and cables.... I am just as professional as anyone else, 30 years an audiophile and if they sucked I'd say so.... They are a steal for $1500 ea.. My full review is coming soon.. I know I've not written a formal review (nor do I expect to in the foreseeable future) on either my XPR-2 or XPR-5, as I'd much rather sit back and enjoy them. I have to admit I expected the controlled tight bass as Ed stated, but what I didn't expect was as Ed stated again, the shimmering highs, both highs and lows seem to me to be more pronounced even at lower volumes than my past power amplifiers (maybe this is mind playing tricks but I don't think so), and at reference levels, as someone I can't remember described it, they just sneek up on you. LC, do you remember the Lounge discussions about how Emotiva's RPA-2 power amps sounded versus the XPA Series power amps? It was almost exactly the comparison that Ed, and others, have been writing on the new XPR Series power amps. I know that when I compared the RPA-2 versus the XPA amps I heard the same differences that Ed just detailed in his review. It looks like Lonnie was able to recapture the "magic" that made the RPA amps so popular.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 9, 2013 21:49:41 GMT -5
I am thinking seriously also to buy the XPR-1 but since the introduction of this amp i am still waiting and waiting for a professionnal review !! For god sake why it is so rare to read a professionnal review for emotiva products it is not that i don't trust or beleive what you are saying about it, but i need to have some audio magazine independant to give us an honnest and objectif review of the XPR-1 or the XPR-2. When i have send an email asking absolute sound magazine about the reason they don't review the new amp of emotiva they said to me that Emotiva never want to send them their products for review !!! so when i need some informations about it all i got is users reviews like you and me !!! Sorry for that but i reach a point of frustration. Thanks Thought I'd chime in regarding reviews and how they work. The XPR-1 and XPR-2 are new amps for us. We have a few XPR amps out for review but it takes a few weeks or even months to see something published. If we send a product to a magazine for example, because of the print schedule, you may not see it published for a few months. The online publications do have a quicker turnaround. As for magazines being told "no", that just simply isn't the case with us. We'll get a lot of requests for a new model or a popular model, and we can't send 20 review units out at the same time. So, we may have a waiting list for some things. Or in some cases, we'll get review requests for products that are close to retirement. We've been selling them for a few years, and by the time the review goes to print, we won't even be selling that specific model anymore. of course on occasion I also get requests for products that are still in the development phase, and or course there is a waiting list for those as well. We are very reviewer friendly. Look for a ton of new reviews in 2013. Just this past month I've sent out a lot of gear.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 9, 2013 21:54:53 GMT -5
I know I've not written a formal review (nor do I expect to in the foreseeable future) on either my XPR-2 or XPR-5, as I'd much rather sit back and enjoy them. I have to admit I expected the controlled tight bass as Ed stated, but what I didn't expect was as Ed stated again, the shimmering highs, both highs and lows seem to me to be more pronounced even at lower volumes than my past power amplifiers (maybe this is mind playing tricks but I don't think so), and at reference levels, as someone I can't remember described it, they just sneek up on you. LC, do you remember the Lounge discussions about how Emotiva's RPA-2 power amps sounded versus the XPA Series power amps? It was almost exactly the comparison that Ed, and others, have been writing on the new XPR Series power amps. I know that when I compared the RPA-2 versus the XPA amps I heard the same differences that Ed just detailed in his review. It looks like Lonnie was able to recapture the "magic" that made the RPA amps so popular. I could've kicked myself when I missed out on the MPS/IPS/RPA power amplifiers, so I wasn't about to miss out on Dan & Lonnie's magic this time around.
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Post by stiehl11 on Mar 9, 2013 22:04:44 GMT -5
So, am I to understand that the XPA amps were considered not as good as the RPA amp(s)?
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2013 22:16:46 GMT -5
So, am I to understand that the XPA amps were considered not as good as the RPA amp(s)? The RPA amps were good, but I've never read anything to imply that the RPA is better than anything currently in production. The RPA amps are older now, relatively speaking. I believe if you're comparing raw numbers, the XPA-1 outperforms the RPA in most respects. I think the XPA amps are still a no brainer, if you're looking for a good amp. Same for XPR, if you need the power.
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