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Post by aussiemark on Mar 30, 2013 23:18:37 GMT -5
Hello everyone I am a first timer on the Emotiva Lounge and wish to venture into the world of separates . Wondering if anyone out there has any experience with coupling the Klipsch RF 7 speakers (102db) with the XPA-5 and if so whether the combo worked well together ? If I get the XPA - 5 what would be the pre/ pro to get best results and what interconnects to get balanced or unbalanced ? Thanks very much. ;D
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Post by robprentiss on Mar 30, 2013 23:27:01 GMT -5
I don't know how big of a room you have, but my guess is that you probably won't ever need that much power with those speakers. I'm currently using the UPA-200 with my RF-82s, and I have more power than I'll ever need with that.
The RF series speakers are quite sensitive, you don't need much power to drive them. The XPA-5 is a wonderful amp, I'm sure, but you could probably save some money and go with the UPA-500.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 23:29:23 GMT -5
Get a few mini x amps.
All Emo amps sound the same.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 30, 2013 23:33:16 GMT -5
Hello mark, welcome to the lounge. I've heard of a few people that used the XPA-5 with it with good results. I believe a1uc was one of them but he doesn't appear to be around. A UMC-200 would work well as a pre-ori, We could help you more with these details: What do you use your speakers for and how large is your room. (Movies/music). Volume level usually listened to. Genre of music. And most importantly - your current equipment and what you are trying to acheive?
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Post by hemster on Mar 30, 2013 23:36:04 GMT -5
G'day Mark and welcome to the madhouse! To avoid regret later, I'd advocate the XPA-5. Amps are for keeps and if you change speakers in the future, you'll be covered for amplification. Also, the UMC-200 pre/pro is the best value out there. Lastly, I'm sure there are other members who've run the Klipsch/XPA combo and hope they chime in. Again, welcome to the lounge.
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Post by vital on Mar 31, 2013 0:10:14 GMT -5
Hello everyone I am a first timer on the Emotiva Lounge and wish to venture into the world of separates . Wondering if anyone out there has any experience with coupling the Klipsch RF 7 speakers (102db) with the XPA-5 and if so whether the combo worked well together ? If I get the XPA - 5 what would be the pre/ pro to get best results and what interconnects to get balanced or unbalanced ? Thanks very much. ;D I am running Klipsch RF-7s as my front three, RS-7s as sides and RB-75s as rears. I use an Emotiva XPA-2 for the front L&R and an XPA-5 for the other five channels. The XPA amps and RF-7s match up very well. I use a UMC-1 in that room and it sounds good.
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Post by aussiemark on Mar 31, 2013 0:20:08 GMT -5
At present I have a Denon AVC -A11 (4802) Klipsch RF7 Klipsch RS 62 rears Velodyne HGS 18 sub PS3, Samsung 55 inch led and a 6 m by 6m with a timber floor I almost exclusively play concert dvds and despite turning 54 next month love hammering Led Zep, Pearl Jam ,Dio at full fury
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Mar 31, 2013 0:47:06 GMT -5
The XPA-5 is nice and if you have the bucks sure.
At less than 1/2 the price, the UPA-500 would be more than enough power for all but the most demanding situation with your speakers.
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Post by tasdom on Mar 31, 2013 2:08:41 GMT -5
Hello everyone I am a first timer on the Emotiva Lounge and wish to venture into the world of separates . Wondering if anyone out there has any experience with coupling the Klipsch RF 7 speakers (102db) with the XPA-5 and if so whether the combo worked well together ? If I get the XPA - 5 what would be the pre/ pro to get best results and what interconnects to get balanced or unbalanced ? Thanks very much. ;D I'm running the RF-7II's with the XPA-5 with balanced XLR's to my Onkyo pre/pro. They work very well together and sound fantastic! I doubt if you'd notice any difference with RCA's
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Post by aussiemark on Mar 31, 2013 2:20:36 GMT -5
What is the difference between balanced and unbalanced inter connects?
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Post by macromicroman on Mar 31, 2013 7:29:57 GMT -5
I have Klipsch RF-7ii speakers for L/R and an RC-64 center and RS-52ii rear all run by an XPA-5. Sounds good to me with both music and movies.
From what I have read whether you use balanced or unbalanced connections won't make much difference unless the distance is long.
I use interconnecting cables that are RCA unbalanced on one end and XLR balanced on the other only because my receiver has RCA outputs only and the XLR connections seemed more solid on the XPA-5 to me.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 31, 2013 9:20:36 GMT -5
Hey Mark and welcome to the Lounge! "Hemster" has already said this but I'll second it in my own words. If you don't plan on changing speakers for a good long while, then a lower powered power amplifier will do, but here is where the regret comes in. If you do change speakers in the foreseeable future and they happen to be way less efficient, in other words power hungry, then you'll also need a power amplifier that is fully capable and then some to drive those new speakers. So I always recommend buying more power amplifier than you need now, thus no regret later that you had that power. I had the XPA-5 in my setup for several years and was quite happy, yes it had more power than I needed, but I'm striving for an all Emotiva Reference level setup, power amplifiers/speakers(when available)/processor(when available). Emotiva power amplifiers are well known for being neutral sounding if you will. Meaning what goes in, comes out only amplified. So no coloring of the input signal, which is what I would think all audio/video enthusiasts would strive for and this goes for the other links in the chain. Don't we want to hear exactly what the director/producer of that blu-ray/dvd intended us to hear? Yes your Klipsch Reference speakers are quite efficient, as are my Klipsch Legend fronts and Reference sides/rears. No I don't hear any difference at lower volumes, but when I turn up the volume to reference levels this is where my KLF-20's shine. Many other Klipsch owners have discovered this as well, so just because they are efficient doesn't mean they won't sing with a bit more power Oh yeah, unless your power amplifier will be a long way from the processor, well shielded unbalanced interconnects will do just fine. Again welcome to the Lounge, so feel free to join in the conversations.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Mar 31, 2013 10:09:22 GMT -5
Although I agree, if within budget, and a higher power amp will future proof your system, as you say, it is not a requirement for a 100dB speaker system.
The higher power is sometimes almost spoken of as a necessity on the board.
It's not!
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Post by aussiemark on Mar 31, 2013 10:27:09 GMT -5
;D Thanks so much for the info . I intend to keep my Klipsch RF 7's for some time and as such bearing in mind todays discount is tomorrows dissatisfaction I have just ordered the XPA -5 a few moments ago. A few other questions if I may . It appears that the objective would be to pair the XMC-1 with the XPA-5 . Being very new to Emotiva (only learnt of the company 2 weeks ago) is the XMC-1 a case of the never ending story ? Patience is a virtue but will they release this unit for purchase this year ? At least their attention to detail and commitment to customer satisfaction is beyond reproach. I have Kimber Kable 4ts for speaker cable at present . Can anyone recommend the Emotva speaker cable ? It appears so much thicker than my Kimber and a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Thanks everyone for assisting. I have never purchased any audio component without first auditioning it but I feel I just cant lose here and I cant wait to become a proud Emotiva owner My only regret is not knowing about this great company many years ago. ;D
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 31, 2013 10:47:40 GMT -5
Although I agree, if within budget, and a higher power amp will future proof your system, as you say, it is not a requirement for a 100dB speaker system. The higher power is sometimes almost spoken of as a necessity on the board. It's not! I can't speak for any other member here, but I've never said "higher power" is a necessity. As you already noted, a higher powered amplifier is indeed future proofing, and the "within budget" should go without saying, as the buyer should already know what they are comfortable spending.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 31, 2013 10:56:26 GMT -5
;D Thanks so much for the info . I intend to keep my Klipsch RF 7's for some time and as such bearing in mind todays discount is tomorrows dissatisfaction I have just ordered the XPA -5 a few moments ago. A few other questions if I may . It appears that the objective would be to pair the XMC-1 with the XPA-5 . Being very new to Emotiva (only learnt of the company 2 weeks ago) is the XMC-1 a case of the never ending story ? Patience is a virtue but will they release this unit for purchase this year ? At least their attention to detail and commitment to customer satisfaction is beyond reproach. I have Kimber Kable 4ts for speaker cable at present . Can anyone recommend the Emotva speaker cable ? It appears so much thicker than my Kimber and a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Thanks everyone for assisting. I have never purchased any audio component without first auditioning it but I feel I just cant lose here and I cant wait to become a proud Emotiva owner My only regret is not knowing about this great company many years ago. ;D I am not familiar with your Kimber speaker wire, but if it is of the proper gauge for the length you are running to your speakers then all should be good. The table in the link below should give you a good idea of what gauge is necessary for your speaker wire runs. www.audioholics.com/education/cables/speaker-cable-gaugeAs for the XMC-1, I'll just say listen to the latest Emotiva PodCast link below. emotiva.com/podcasts/02-27-13/podcast.mp3
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Mar 31, 2013 11:19:35 GMT -5
Although I agree, if within budget, and a higher power amp will future proof your system, as you say, it is not a requirement for a 100dB speaker system. The higher power is sometimes almost spoken of as a necessity on the board. It's not! I can't speak for any other member here, but I've never said "higher power" is a necessity. As you already noted, a higher powered amplifier is indeed future proofing, and the "within budget" should go without saying, as the buyer should already know what they are comfortable spending. Please understand, that wasn't directed at you. It was just a general statement. I am sure you and I are more or less on the same page. I have seen threads that argue the power level needed and say you won't have the SQ without the power. If you listen at reasonable volume levels, don't have a room the size of a hotel lobby and have high efficiency speakers this is nonsense.
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Post by robprentiss on Mar 31, 2013 11:32:02 GMT -5
I have seen threads that argue the power level needed and say you won't have the SQ without the power. If you listen at reasonable volume levels, don't have a room the size of a hotel lobby and have high efficiency speakers this is nonsense. My thoughts exactly. The XPR-5 is a fine purchase indeed, but those speakers will never need that much power. That being said, its still a good purchase. Balanced interconnects are nice, and as was previously stated, if the OP ever wants to try any other speakers that might need the power, it will come in handy.
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Post by Spiky on Mar 31, 2013 11:33:22 GMT -5
;D Thanks so much for the info . I intend to keep my Klipsch RF 7's for some time and as such bearing in mind todays discount is tomorrows dissatisfaction I have just ordered the XPA -5 a few moments ago. A few other questions if I may . It appears that the objective would be to pair the XMC-1 with the XPA-5 . Being very new to Emotiva (only learnt of the company 2 weeks ago) is the XMC-1 a case of the never ending story ? Patience is a virtue but will they release this unit for purchase this year ? At least their attention to detail and commitment to customer satisfaction is beyond reproach. I have Kimber Kable 4ts for speaker cable at present . Can anyone recommend the Emotva speaker cable ? It appears so much thicker than my Kimber and a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. So far the XMC has been vaporware for 5 years. But it really seems like it is for real this year. Name brand speaker wire is all overkill. Unless you have runs that are hundreds of feet long, the 13AWG Kimber should be fine. The weakest link in a HT system is the motor that moves the laser in your disc player.
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Post by aussiemark on Mar 31, 2013 14:20:09 GMT -5
Well that being the case ,the motor moving the laser in the disc player, the PS3 is going very soon as a Blu ray player. Does anyone recommend a place to purchase an Oppo bdp 103 multi zoned player ?
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