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Post by hemster on May 4, 2013 21:07:44 GMT -5
Dan, Good advice, but keep in mind the Lounge Members are audio nuts, and as such are NOT normal human beings. ;D ;D You give us an inch and we will take a mile.  We are an international forum. You give us an centimeter and we will take a kilometer  ;D |
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Post by phatfos1 on May 5, 2013 1:57:58 GMT -5
I have tried (really tried) to trip the breaker with my XPR 5, 6 LSI 25s (Each with an onboard amp) and two subs and....nothing. Neighbors aren't an issue but at the volume levels I was hitting I truly was concerned for my windows and my hearing. Everything is running on one line except for two rear 25s--Including a 65" plasma and other random business.
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Post by sergeantynot on May 6, 2013 9:07:37 GMT -5
I'm running everything in my sig on one 15 amp circuit. Not even a hint of an issue..... Hey there...just to follow up, how do you have everything powered up? Are the XPRs going to some kind of switch or conditioner at all? Are you using these Furman adapters Big Dan recommended? I mentioned in another thread that I essentially have 3 circuits (6 outlets) for all my devices, and was worried there would be power issues. |
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Post by edoggrc51 on May 6, 2013 19:56:12 GMT -5
Just plug them directly into the wall socket.
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Post by stanlee on May 4, 2015 13:31:54 GMT -5
Hi guys, As I've said several times before, we use the 20 amp style connector because we must pass CE testing and the 15 amp style is not adequate for the currents that can be drawn during compliance testing. The use of the plug adapters is completely safe in a house with normal wiring. But remember, you are not running load banks with continuous sine wave testing at home. You are playing movies and listening to music. The duty cycle is far less demanding. Now, if you want to, and especially if you have several large amplifiers in the system, you should consider running a dedicated 20 amp feed, but the reality is that it is not really necessary for most humans. The XPR's can ask for large power peaks, but the average home power wiring is usually quite adequate and completely safe. The great thing about home circuits is they are designed to allow brief high current spikes, but long term overloads (the type that cause the house wiring to heat up and pose a safety risk) are well protected by your homes circuit breakers. There are a few of you out there that can exceed the capabilities of any power source, but we're talking about normal people at the moment. My rule is this. Try it. If you EVER trip the breaker, upgrade the service. 99+ % of you will never have to do this. Cheers, Big Dan Hi I'm new to emotiva. Will be ordering the XPR-5 soon and was wondering which plug adapter were you referring to for the outlet requirement? Is there a specific adapter or any one would do? Thanks much. |
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Post by novisnick on May 4, 2015 13:35:49 GMT -5
Hi guys, As I've said several times before, we use the 20 amp style connector because we must pass CE testing and the 15 amp style is not adequate for the currents that can be drawn during compliance testing. The use of the plug adapters is completely safe in a house with normal wiring. But remember, you are not running load banks with continuous sine wave testing at home. You are playing movies and listening to music. The duty cycle is far less demanding. Now, if you want to, and especially if you have several large amplifiers in the system, you should consider running a dedicated 20 amp feed, but the reality is that it is not really necessary for most humans. The XPR's can ask for large power peaks, but the average home power wiring is usually quite adequate and completely safe. The great thing about home circuits is they are designed to allow brief high current spikes, but long term overloads (the type that cause the house wiring to heat up and pose a safety risk) are well protected by your homes circuit breakers. There are a few of you out there that can exceed the capabilities of any power source, but we're talking about normal people at the moment. My rule is this. Try it. If you EVER trip the breaker, upgrade the service. 99+ % of you will never have to do this. Cheers, Big Dan Hi I'm new to emotiva. Will be ordering the XPR-5 soon and was wondering which plug adapter were you referring to for the outlet requirement? Is there a specific adapter or any one would do? Thanks much. Easy,,,,,peasy,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, I have a pair of XPR-1s plugged into one. This one!   Go here; emotiva.com/products/accessories/cmx-2 |
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Post by stanlee on May 4, 2015 15:23:43 GMT -5
Hi I'm new to emotiva. Will be ordering the XPR-5 soon and was wondering which plug adapter were you referring to for the outlet requirement? Is there a specific adapter or any one would do? Thanks much. Easy,,,,,peasy,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, I have a pair of XPR-1s plugged into one. This one! View Attachment Go here; emotiva.com/products/accessories/cmx-2Thanks Novi but that device is only rated at 15amps with a 14 gauge cord. Will it suffice? I do have 20 amp breaker at the box which is wired to regular 15 amp multiple outlets. I would like to plug it in directly into the wall. |
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Post by novisnick on May 4, 2015 17:15:57 GMT -5
Easy,,,,,peasy,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, I have a pair of XPR-1s plugged into one. This one! Go here; emotiva.com/products/accessories/cmx-2Thanks Novi but that device is only rated at 15amps with a 14 gauge cord. Will it suffice? I do have 20 amp breaker at the box which is wired to regular 15 amp multiple outlets. I would like to plug it in directly into the wall. It was made for them (R series) my XPR-1s will supply 1740 watts at 4 ohms , and I have a pair of them running on the devise. |
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Post by badronald on May 4, 2015 18:50:29 GMT -5
Easy,,,,,peasy,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, I have a pair of XPR-1s plugged into one. This one! View Attachment Go here; emotiva.com/products/accessories/cmx-2Thanks Novi but that device is only rated at 15amps with a 14 gauge cord. Will it suffice? I do have 20 amp breaker at the box which is wired to regular 15 amp multiple outlets. I would like to plug it in directly into the wall. Simply shut the breaker off, get a 20 amp outlet at home depot, etc, and replace the 15 amp outlet. Turn breaker back on. Done. |
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Post by novisnick on May 4, 2015 18:59:17 GMT -5
Thanks Novi but that device is only rated at 15amps with a 14 gauge cord. Will it suffice? I do have 20 amp breaker at the box which is wired to regular 15 amp multiple outlets. I would like to plug it in directly into the wall. Simply shut the breaker off, get a 20 amp outlet at home depot, etc, and replace the 15 amp outlet. Turn breaker back on. Done. This will work too! |
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Post by stanlee on May 4, 2015 20:24:09 GMT -5
Simply shut the breaker off, get a 20 amp outlet at home depot, etc, and replace the 15 amp outlet. Turn breaker back on. Done. This will work too! Sounds good. But will it be a problem if multiple outlets are connected to the single 20 amp breaker at the box? And does it have to be a 12 AWG wire or greater? Thanks for the answers. |
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Post by novisnick on May 4, 2015 20:41:29 GMT -5
This will work too! Sounds good. But will it be a problem if multiple outlets are connected to the single 20 amp breaker at the box? And does it have to be a 12 AWG wire or greater? Thanks for the answers. Should not be any problems, keep adding gear to the circuit until the breaker starts to trip, that's it's job,,,,,to tell you that there's too much load on a single circuit. Driven extremely hard my two XPR-1s don't draw more then 300 watts 99.99% of the time. That's both, not a single amp. Single XPR-1 has a huge 2.5kVA toroidal transformer, two of them equals 5.0kVA a single XPR-5 has a huge 3.3kVA toroidal transformer Im NOT seeing your problem,,,,,,,,,  |
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Post by stanlee on May 5, 2015 1:09:10 GMT -5
Thanks buddy
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Post by badronald on May 8, 2015 17:31:39 GMT -5
This will work too! Sounds good. But will it be a problem if multiple outlets are connected to the single 20 amp breaker at the box? And does it have to be a 12 AWG wire or greater? Thanks for the answers. As long as the breaker remains 15 amp there is no danger installing a 20A outlet. Change the breaker to 20a, now you have problems. If the wiring is rated for 15a service, it can burn up and start a fire. |
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Post by ttocs on May 8, 2015 18:43:33 GMT -5
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Post by stanlee on May 10, 2015 22:50:00 GMT -5
Well I just had a brand new 12 awg 20 amp outlet installed from the box. Total cost about $400 bucks including labor and parts :-)
Also rewired surround speaker wires to 10 awg.
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