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Post by jmilton on May 14, 2013 7:11:27 GMT -5
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Post by Porscheguy on May 14, 2013 9:40:48 GMT -5
It would be nice if someone other than 'holics and Secrets did some reviews... They are Emo insiders in many ways....
Just sayin.... :-)
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Post by monkumonku on May 14, 2013 10:03:21 GMT -5
It would be nice if someone other than 'holics and Secrets did some reviews... They are Emo insiders in many ways.... Just sayin.... :-) Yeah, like maybe the Polk Audio forum.  |
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Post by jmilton on May 14, 2013 11:13:08 GMT -5
^ good one... ;D
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Post by garbulky on May 14, 2013 15:01:34 GMT -5
Yeah I've always seen this as an either/or purchase but only if you really want it for a specific reason over the UPA-200. It's good to see the old UPA-2 getting some love! I also agree 100% with the two ratings differences. )1%THD and 0.1% THD. Make it all at 0.1% THD is my opinion as well. Don't worry about what the customers will think. Just explain clearly the difference - capacitance, XLR outputs, and twin amp blades from the xpa series.
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Post by rob80b on May 14, 2013 16:49:41 GMT -5
Although I’ve yet to own a 1000 watts per channel amp, it seems like only yesterday when my sanity was questioned when adding a 100 watter to my rig.  All in all though as I commented, the XPA-200 did do a commendable job when I did some extensive listening running my Dynaudio Special 25s. And as for the differences between the UPA-200 and XPA-200 I guess the proofs in the pudding as has been acknowledged. UPA-200  XPA-200  |
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Post by garbulky on May 14, 2013 16:56:26 GMT -5
And the old UPA-2 (note the extra capacitance on the xpa-200)  |
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Post by Porscheguy on May 14, 2013 20:24:18 GMT -5
It would be nice if someone other than 'holics and Secrets did some reviews... They are Emo insiders in many ways.... Just sayin.... :-) Yeah, like maybe the Polk Audio forum. Never been in the Polk forum. Please enlighten me.. |
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Post by paradigmE on May 14, 2013 21:52:09 GMT -5
I still really love my evolving USP-1/XPA-200 combo. I like that the review pointed out the 29db vs 32db gain. I REALLY wanted the XPA-2 at the time but thought I had a sound argument going with the XPA-200, as the eventual plan is to be powering really efficient speakers like the Tektons. Bias = I think I'm overly annoyed by hiss so was maybe being overly cautious on the subject.
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Post by arthurz on May 14, 2013 22:06:28 GMT -5
Never been in the Polk forum. Please enlighten me.. Me neither, so I just took a quick look. Seems like a lot of standard audiophool drivel: www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?91833-What-is-wrong-with-Emotiva-productsIt seems the underlying problem is nearly universal in our hobby: a lot of people (who I suspect constitute a minority, but definitely a vocal one) seem downright religious about what can only be described as their beliefs – mostly mental reinforcement that they made perfect choices (e.g. everything cheaper than their equipment is either "crap" or "good for the money, but mid-fi"). Ocezam got it right in a recent thread on XPR amps... Interestingly, most indignation and vitriol is reserved for comments that suggest that more expensive/complicated choices are not warranted (e.g. XPA-5 and XPR-5 being similar-sounding, Emotiva being as good as Parasound or what-have-you, expensive cables being a waste of money, 16/44.1 sounding the same as 32/384, 320 kbps MP3 sounding the same as 16/44.1, CDs being superior to vinyl). |
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Post by arthurz on May 14, 2013 22:24:37 GMT -5
I've been waiting for the next sale to score an XPA-200, but now I'm wondering whether a UPA-200 is a smarter choice. It seems to actually have marginally less distortion at 100 W into 4 Ω than the XPA-200. During the last sale, the prices were $419 and $299 – a 30% difference.
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Post by garbulky on May 14, 2013 23:25:09 GMT -5
The polk forum. I really don't understand the dislike for emo. Most of them acknowledged for the price you can't get anything as good. Some said sure you can and then failed to provide any links.
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Post by broncsrule21 on May 15, 2013 1:24:19 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to find out about Emotiva via the Polk forum. But, i have not visited them for at least four years. Friendlier group here.
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Post by geebo on May 15, 2013 7:20:35 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to find out about Emotiva via the Polk forum. But, i have not visited them for at least four years. Friendlier group here. Same here. |
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Post by ocezam on May 15, 2013 11:14:36 GMT -5
Yeah, like maybe the Polk Audio forum. Never been in the Polk forum. Please enlighten me.. I've always liked Polks as a great value in speakers. I've owned better but usually for a much bigger price. Years after I became an Emotiva customer, I bought my current Polk LSi15's. I cruised on over the the Polk site to see what others thought of the speakers, upgrades, etc. Holy cow! When I mentioned my Emotiva amps I was dog piled like I never have been before on the net. It's absolutely ridiculous over there! And IMHO it makes Polk look bad. Spend 1/2 hour over there by searching Emotiva. ... |
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Post by ocezam on May 15, 2013 11:21:11 GMT -5
The polk forum. I really don't understand the dislike for emo. Most of them acknowledged for the price you can't get anything as good. Some said sure you can and then failed to provide any links. And therein lies the problem. If you mention you have emotiva gear, and you think it's good considering the price, they'll generally leave you alone. In other words, you have to know "your place". You're a beginner, neophyte, mid-fi, etc. If you dare to compare your Emotiva gear with Parasound, Adcom, Rotel etc, you'll be crucified! Well sorry, every piece of emotiva gear I've used compares VERY favorably to those brands and many others, regardless of price. I've been doing this 35 years, I don't need snobs to tell me how to think, thank you!  |
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Post by jmilton on May 15, 2013 12:35:41 GMT -5
..and the Polkies with the most vitriol usually admit that they have never actually listened to any of Emotiva's products. They rant that Emo gear is "MidFi"...like Polk gear isn't??
What's up with that?
(I agree, it does makes their forum look bad...and I used to have Polk speakers at one time, too.)
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Post by subdusted on Sept 8, 2013 14:48:20 GMT -5
I like Polks...but there's nothing spectacular about them. Generally decent speakers for HT but they are not exactly musical. I still have their LSi15s which used to belong to their top series a few years ago( have but no longer listen to ) and Martin Logan Motion 12s I got on Newegg for 460 a pair beat them hands down.
As for Emotiva products in general - great value, decent sound but not perfect...so if you are serious about music reproduction, you have to look elsewehre and it will cost you a lot of money. If you can't afford to spend over 5K on an amp, then Emotiva is the way to go.
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Post by sealman on Feb 22, 2014 2:03:47 GMT -5
Hmm maybe I should head over and give my thoughts on the differences between my XPA-5 and my Rotel RB993.
I should probably wear a flame retardant suit as well!
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Post by Lsc on Feb 22, 2014 7:49:27 GMT -5
It would be nice if someone other than 'holics and Secrets did some reviews... They are Emo insiders in many ways.... Just sayin.... :-) The fact this was not a great review shows Audioholics objectivity. Reviews are a casual read anyway...don't forget your grain of salt. |
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