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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 12:35:59 GMT -5
When I was 17 I worked at Blockbuster. People loved to come in and look at all the boxes. I always thought that it was magical, I loved the job. You would have never convinced me that a little red box would replace the video stores. As I watch the tech change and see the growth of Nexflix I think Blu ray may only have a few years left. Bust Buy has taken everything but new releases out of the stores in Texas so its beginning to happen.
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 9, 2013 12:40:13 GMT -5
I don't think Redbox would have been as successful as it was if it was renting new releases for $3 a night for DVD and $5 for Blu-Ray like what Blockbuster was doing. When you cut the price by a third (see recent Sherbourn sell-off) you get a lot of takers.
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 12:45:24 GMT -5
I agree. But the way redbox did this was remove all the cost that went into running a video store. I think that's where we lose - the experience and interaction with other movie lovers IMHO.
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Post by geebo on Aug 9, 2013 12:47:05 GMT -5
I don't think Redbox would have been as successful as it was if it was renting new releases for $3 a night for DVD and $5 for Blu-Ray like what Blockbuster was doing. When you cut the price by a third (see recent Sherbourn sell-off) you get a lot of takers. I agree, David. I didn't care about keeping a movie for 5 days. I watched in the evening I rented it. Redbox had the right idea and beat the big stores at their own game. Maybe streaming will make kiosks go away but Redbox sure made some major leaps in making their product not only more affordable buy way more convenient. I can reserve something so no more wasted trips to see if something is in. And I can return it at any Redbox. $1.50 is cheap. |
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 9, 2013 12:47:34 GMT -5
I don't think Redbox would have been as successful as it was if it was renting new releases for $3 a night for DVD and $5 for Blu-Ray like what Blockbuster was doing. When you cut the price by a third (see recent Sherbourn sell-off) you get a lot of takers. Price, but also RedBox's availability -i.e. location, location, location, -also played a HUGE role. The fact that a) they're everywhere and b) you're not tethered to one RedBox was another draw I'm sure. In many ways, depending upon where you live, going to a RedBox is akin to going to your mailbox. Doesn't get much easier than that really. |
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 9, 2013 12:48:51 GMT -5
I agree. But the way redbox did this was remove all the cost that went into running a video store. I think that's where we lose - the experience and interaction with other movie lovers IMHO. I respectfully disagree re: interaction with other movie lovers. I think the interaction is alive and well, it just moved online, to sites not unlike this forum. Now, is it face-to-face? No, not exactly, but I still think the community exists. Just my 2 cents. |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 12:51:15 GMT -5
I don't think Redbox would have been as successful as it was if it was renting new releases for $3 a night for DVD and $5 for Blu-Ray like what Blockbuster was doing. When you cut the price by a third (see recent Sherbourn sell-off) you get a lot of takers. I agree, David. I didn't care about keeping a movie for 5 days. I watched in the evening I rented it. Redbox had the right idea and beat the big stores at their own game. Maybe streaming will make kiosks go away but Redbox sure made some major leaps in making their product not only more affordable buy way more convenient. I can reserve something so no more wasted trips to see if something is in. And I can return it at any Redbox. $1.50 is cheap. I have never used redbox out of principle and never will. For me its about the whole experience that I feel was removed with Redbox. |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 12:53:08 GMT -5
I agree. But the way redbox did this was remove all the cost that went into running a video store. I think that's where we lose - the experience and interaction with other movie lovers IMHO. I respectfully disagree re: interaction with other movie lovers. I think the interaction is alive and well, it just moved online, to sites not unlike this forum. Now, is it face-to-face? No, not exactly, but I still think the community exists. Just my 2 cents. You are correct, maybe its the face-to-face that I miss. |
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 9, 2013 13:00:22 GMT -5
You are correct, maybe its the face-to-face that I miss. The face-to-face is important. It's part of the reason I'm so looking forward to events like Emofest (shameless plug  ) because I feel it's important, at least once a year or so, for people to meet in person and truly get a feel for one another. Too often I feel things are misinterpreted via forums such as these, as even the best of intentions can be seen as "attacks." I feel having some semblance of person to person contact at some level helps to eliminate confusion as well as foster a stronger community. |
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Aug 9, 2013 13:02:27 GMT -5
Okay, time for the dinosaur to 'weigh in',...  I want my actual, physical, Blu-ray disc - and I don't want to be dependent upon my internet provider's fickle connection, or the ever increasing monthly fees necessary to sustain that streaming capacity to watch movies. Just because Blu-ray may eventually go away, doesn't mean its inferior. In fact, in today's world of 'convienance trumps quality' at pretty much every turn (MP3 files, ear buds, and iPod docs anyone?), it may just be a badge of honor(?). Netflix found their niche, and good for them! And Redbox also found their market (and destroyed Blockbuster in the process!). And both fill a need, and satisfy a definate demand. I also think there's enough HT enthusiasts still around who think like I do, that Blu-ray discs will still be around for a long while. ...now to also work on keeping superior Plasma displays around and - into the 4K world that's just around the corner!  |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 13:03:08 GMT -5
You are correct, maybe its the face-to-face that I miss. The face-to-face is important. It's part of the reason I'm so looking forward to events like Emofest (shameless plug ) because I feel it's important, at least once a year or so, for people to meet in person and truly get a feel for one another. Too often I feel things are misinterpreted via forums such as these, as even the best of intentions can be seen as "attacks." I feel having some semblance of person to person contact at some level helps to eliminate confusion as well as foster a stronger community. I can't make it this year but I will come to the small visit Big Dan talked about for Austin later this year. |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 13:06:43 GMT -5
Okay, time for the dinosaur to 'weigh in',... I want my actual, physical, Blu-ray disc - and I don't want to be dependent upon my internet provider's fickle connection, or the ever increasing monthly fees necessary to sustain that streaming capacity to watch movies. Just because Blu-ray may eventually go away, doesn't mean its inferior. In fact, in today's world of 'convienance trumps quality' at pretty much every turn (MP3 files, ear buds, and iPod docs anyone?), it may just be a badge of honor(?). Netflix found their niche, and good for them! And Redbox also found their market (and destroyed Blockbuster in the process!). And both fill a need, and satisfy a definate demand. I also think there's enough HT enthusiasts still around who think like I do, that Blu-ray discs will still be around for a long while. ...now to also work on keeping superior Plasma displays around and - into the 4K world that's just around the corner! I feel the same, I hope it doesn't turn into SADC! I have a collection of over 600 Blu Ray/DVD Disc and I love them very much |
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Post by geebo on Aug 9, 2013 13:28:13 GMT -5
I agree, David. I didn't care about keeping a movie for 5 days. I watched in the evening I rented it. Redbox had the right idea and beat the big stores at their own game. Maybe streaming will make kiosks go away but Redbox sure made some major leaps in making their product not only more affordable buy way more convenient. I can reserve something so no more wasted trips to see if something is in. And I can return it at any Redbox. $1.50 is cheap. I have never used redbox out of principle and never will. For me its about the whole experience that I feel was removed with Redbox. Apparently it wasn't a big enough factor for enough people to keep them afloat. Otherwise they'd still be there. Nothing at all wrong with your point of view, it's just that there weren't enough others like you. Like Andrew said, location, convenience, price. |
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Post by GTPlus on Aug 9, 2013 13:55:05 GMT -5
I don't think redbox is the only thing that is killing video stores. My lazy butt prefers to sit on my couch and browse the PS3. Certainly doesn't save me any money, but I get instant gratification and a preview of the movie.
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 14:03:01 GMT -5
I have never used redbox out of principle and never will. For me its about the whole experience that I feel was removed with Redbox. Apparently it wasn't a big enough factor for enough people to keep them afloat. Otherwise they'd still be there. Nothing at all wrong with your point of view, it's just that there weren't enough others like you. Like Andrew said, location, convenience, price. I agree, I just don't like it  |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 14:06:08 GMT -5
I don't think redbox is the only thing that is killing video stores. My lazy butt prefers to sit on my couch and browse the PS3. Certainly doesn't save me any money, but I get instant gratification and a preview of the movie. I understand that we all like "instant gratification" in our culture, that's not going to change. People live with low quality music for the same reason. |
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Post by GTPlus on Aug 9, 2013 14:21:36 GMT -5
I don't think redbox is the only thing that is killing video stores. My lazy butt prefers to sit on my couch and browse the PS3. Certainly doesn't save me any money, but I get instant gratification and a preview of the movie. I understand that we all like "instant gratification" in our culture, that's not going to change. People live with low quality music for the same reason. I agree, but I still get both quality and instant gratification. Just saying there are many options that are hurting video stores. Funny thing is even though I rent films on the PS3, I still can’t bring myself to buy it that way. I still would rather get the Blu-Ray for portability sake, especially if my kids like it. |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 14:24:11 GMT -5
I understand that we all like "instant gratification" in our culture, that's not going to change. People live with low quality music for the same reason. I agree, but I still get both quality and instant gratification. Just saying there are many options that are hurting video stores. Funny thing is even though I rent films on the PS3, I still can’t bring myself to buy it that way. I still would rather get the Blu-Ray for portability sake, especially if my kids like it. LOL!! I got a iTunes Copy of Skyfall then picked up the Blu Ray the next day. My wife was not happy.... |
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Post by DYohn on Aug 9, 2013 14:40:11 GMT -5
We had this discussion in another thread, no? My feeling is that broadband Internet penetration is too poor and too slow for streaming to ever completely kill HD physical media. BRD will stay around for a very long time. |
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Post by SuperComplex on Aug 9, 2013 14:44:33 GMT -5
We had this discussion in another thread, no? My feeling is that broadband Internet penetration is too poor and too slow for streaming to ever completely kill HD physical media. BRD will stay around for a very long time. We may have, I'm new and still learning my way around here. Ill search before I post next time. BRD may, but I think it will be harder to get new disc without using something like amazon.com as soon as the next five years. |
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) because I feel it's important, at least once a year or so, for people to meet in person and truly get a feel for one another. Too often I feel things are misinterpreted via forums such as these, as even the best of intentions can be seen as "attacks." I feel having some semblance of person to person contact at some level helps to eliminate confusion as well as foster a stronger community. 
