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Post by Jim on Sept 11, 2013 8:05:16 GMT -5
I read reviews that it was and I quote "like the office in space" so I assume the story line is quite pathetic...but no doubt we will buy it if reniting on iTunes makes it worthwhile...otherwise a rental is going to be it for me. Ouuuuchhh! "The Office" in space! That's harsh! (kinda funny though) |
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Post by solarrdadd on Sept 11, 2013 10:05:49 GMT -5
if your a star trek fan, if you like top quality demo worthy video & audio (7.1) and if your a fan of JJ and his style of trek story telling, if you like what he did with the first movie, you will be buying this.
i'm all of the above so, yeah, i own a copy.
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Post by stiehl11 on Sept 11, 2013 10:14:07 GMT -5
I read reviews that it was and I quote "like the office in space" so I assume the story line is quite pathetic...but no doubt we will buy it if reniting on iTunes makes it worthwhile...otherwise a rental is going to be it for me. It was "lazy" sci-fi writing. If big explosions, fast paced action, and loud, overwrought soundtrack is your idea of good sci-fi then this is your type of movie. This was like The Fast and the Furious... in space. At least a relative of "Cloverfield" didn't make an appearance in this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 22:13:18 GMT -5
It was "lazy" sci-fi writing. If big explosions, fast paced action, and loud, overwrought soundtrack is your idea of good sci-fi then this is your type of movie. This was like The Fast and the Furious... in space. At least a relative of "Cloverfield" didn't make an appearance in this one. I would have to agree with this assessment. I just wathced my Redbox rental and found this movie to be a bit of a mess. The sound track is livley but bombastic the whole way through. I like Michale Giacchino's scores generally but whoever mixed this soundtrack just over did it. Sometimes you just don't need the music blaring with load action, it can make it seem farcical. There is very little character development and just pretty much non stop mindless action on steroids. The emsemble acting was just not utilized effectively in this one. I liked the 2009 Star Trek immediately, It was a fast paced dun action movie there primarily but there was much better character development and periods of intimate dramatic scenes (not loud the whole way through) and there were some spots that were thought provoking. Spoil alert. Do not read beyond this if you do not want the plot to be spoiled. It was interesting the way Dr. Marcus was introduced. For a moment I though the Torpedos were going to be the Genesis project. I did not figure out it was Khan util the reveal on body in the first torpedo. It was interesting to have Kirk die in the engine compartment vs. Spock. These were interesting but not enough to equate to a good movie. |
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Post by bootman on Sept 12, 2013 9:13:26 GMT -5
Anyone upset that Paramount spread the extras across different exclusive versions of the bluray release here in the US?
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- The Voyage Begins... Again (2:29)
- Mr. Spock and Mr. Spock (4:15)
- Rebuilding the Enterprise (5:30)
- Vengeance is Coming (4:27)
- Kirk and Spock (5:34)
- Visual Affection (9:02)
Best Buy (via CinemaNow):
- Down With the Ship (6:09)
- NIF: Home of the Core (4:32)
- Safety First (2:26)
- Unlocking the Cut (5:10)
- The Sound of Music and FX (5:27)
- Aliens Encountered (6:50)
These are not available if you buy the general release copy (ex: Amazon)
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Post by Bridger on Sept 12, 2013 9:35:32 GMT -5
Anyone upset that Paramount spread the extras across different exclusive versions of the bluray release here in the US? Target - The Voyage Begins... Again (2:29) - Mr. Spock and Mr. Spock (4:15) - Rebuilding the Enterprise (5:30) - Vengeance is Coming (4:27) - Kirk and Spock (5:34) - Visual Affection (9:02) Best Buy (via CinemaNow): - Down With the Ship (6:09) - NIF: Home of the Core (4:32) - Safety First (2:26) - Unlocking the Cut (5:10) - The Sound of Music and FX (5:27) - Aliens Encountered (6:50) These are not available if you buy the general release copy (ex: Amazon) Yep, it's BS. Not only that, the Commentary has to come from iTunes and in no version, digital or otherwise are there ANY deleted scenes! |
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Post by red5ive on Sept 12, 2013 10:36:45 GMT -5
Saw it in the theater, and while I didn't think it was better than the first, I picked it up yesterday for the spectacle factor. However, I won't get to watch it until this weekend.
Spoiler Warning
Apart from the overdone action and the addition of Carol Marcus who seemed pointless in this storyline other than eye-candy and to pay homage to the character, one thing bothers me about this film and perhaps I may have missed a detail. I thought it was established that Khan's crew were also genetically enhanced? If so, what was the point of chasing after a madman who EASILY took out what looked like 2 or 3 battalions of Klingons when they had already removed one of Khan's crew from the cryo pod in order to freeze Kirk? They had the blood right there. If they needed time to synthesize, well isn't that the point of cryo?
I'm not a trekker/trekkie or anything nor am I trying to start a debate, that just came to mind when I was sitting in the theater, and I'm not positive if they said the crew were also enhanced.
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Post by Bridger on Sept 12, 2013 11:20:00 GMT -5
Saw it in the theater, and while I didn't think it was better than the first, I picked it up yesterday for the spectacle factor. However, I won't get to watch it until this weekend. Spoiler WarningApart from the overdone action and the addition of Carol Marcus who seemed pointless in this storyline other than eye-candy and to pay homage to the character, one thing bothers me about this film and perhaps I may have missed a detail. I thought it was established that Khan's crew were also genetically enhanced? If so, what was the point of chasing after a madman who EASILY took out what looked like 2 or 3 battalions of Klingons when they had already removed one of Khan's crew from the cryo pod in order to freeze Kirk? They had the blood right there. If they needed time to synthesize, well isn't that the point of cryo? I'm not a trekker/trekkie or anything nor am I trying to start a debate, that just came to mind when I was sitting in the theater, and I'm not positive if they said the crew were also enhanced. This is a common complaint of the movie and a valid one. About the only explanation that makes sense is that Bones knew Khan's blood would work but didn't know if the others would. |
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Post by tme110 on Sept 12, 2013 12:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by jmilton on Sept 12, 2013 17:00:12 GMT -5
And if one can teleport to Kronos...why have starships?
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 12, 2013 17:38:14 GMT -5
And if one can teleport to Kronos...why have starships? Same reason people still listen to vinyl. Or use tubes.  |
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Post by brubacca on Sept 12, 2013 17:40:21 GMT -5
And if one can teleport to Kronos...why have starships? Same reason people still listen to vinyl. Or use tubes. Because it is about better sound and style.  . Got this movie today and can't wait to watch it. Wish I had avoided the spoilers above. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Sept 12, 2013 17:57:42 GMT -5
And if one can teleport to Kronos...why have starships? Because then the movie would be over in the 1st Act!?! It's one thing to deal with the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Principle by using a "Hiesenberg Compensator" (the Star Trek "tech" that allows for Transporters to work) but then all of a sudden not being able to use it for no other reason (and for no explanation) other than to drive a (weak) plot point (i.e. plot hole) is lazy at best and ignorant at worst of the genre. Abrams makes "good" sci-fi the way a monkey jumping up and down on a set of bag pipes makes "good" music. |
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2013 18:31:29 GMT -5
And if one can teleport to Kronos...why have starships? Because then the movie would be over in the 1st Act!?! It's one thing to deal with the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Principle by using a "Hiesenberg Compensator" (the Star Trek "tech" that allows for Transporters to work) but then all of a sudden not being able to use it for no other reason (and for no explanation) other than to drive a (weak) plot point (i.e. plot hole) is lazy at best and ignorant at worst of the genre. Abrams makes "good" sci-fi the way a monkey jumping up and down on a set of bag pipes makes "good" music. So you're saying that JJ Abrahms is the Jerry Bruckheimer of Sci-Fi?  Explosions and blasts...... who needs a story line?? |
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Post by dally on Sept 12, 2013 18:48:42 GMT -5
Because then the movie would be over in the 1st Act!?! It's one thing to deal with the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Principle by using a "Hiesenberg Compensator" (the Star Trek "tech" that allows for Transporters to work) but then all of a sudden not being able to use it for no other reason (and for no explanation) other than to drive a (weak) plot point (i.e. plot hole) is lazy at best and ignorant at worst of the genre. Abrams makes "good" sci-fi the way a monkey jumping up and down on a set of bag pipes makes "good" music. So you're saying that JJ Abrahms is the Jerry Bruckheimer of Sci-Fi? Explosions and blasts...... who needs a story line?? C'mon Jerry's the man! Con air, Pearl Harbor, crimson tide, national treasure, top gun! I love most of his stuff |
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2013 18:51:15 GMT -5
So you're saying that JJ Abrahms is the Jerry Bruckheimer of Sci-Fi? Explosions and blasts...... who needs a story line?? C'mon Jerry's the man! Con air, Pearl Harbor, crimson tide, national treasure, top gun! I love most of his stuff The Lone Ranger, Coyote Ugly, Armageddon?  ? I have to admit, he does have some classics though.. |
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Post by restless on Sept 12, 2013 18:52:38 GMT -5
Found that on the Amazon release, the extras were only on the Blu-Ray, and that disk was hidden behind the ULTRA flyer. Started watching, and wondered why I was only getting Dolby Digital 5.1... possible problems with the 7030(??!!). Then noticed the Blu-Ray disk behind the paper for Ultra, and I was watching the DVD version. Started again, and the Blu-Ray had the correct TRUE HD soundtrack. Liked the home system VERY much!! Actually got beyond 6-8 blue lights on the XPA-1's!! Very Nice!!
Also, the Extra's are different on this Blu-Ray as well.
Creating the Red Planet
Attack on Starfleet
The Klingon Home World
The Enemy of my Enemy
Ship to Ship
Brawl by the Bay
Continuing the Mission
The DVD and Blu-Ray had a Audio Book type of narration channel, without any Director comments.
Seems like they expect you to buy every version. Movie was not THAT interesting.
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Post by dally on Sept 12, 2013 18:57:09 GMT -5
C'mon Jerry's the man! Con air, Pearl Harbor, crimson tide, national treasure, top gun! I love most of his stuff The Lone Ranger, Coyote Ugly, Armageddon? ? I have to admit, he does have some classics though.. I'll give you the first two, but I really like Armageddon. Sure the science is way out in left field, but the story and characters are pretty good. To each there own I guess! |
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2013 19:22:06 GMT -5
The Lone Ranger, Coyote Ugly, Armageddon? ? I have to admit, he does have some classics though.. I'll give you the first two, but I really like Armageddon. Sure the science is way out in left field, but the story and characters are pretty good. To each there own I guess! I'm crabby and tired, don't expect me to be rational!!  |
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Post by stiehl11 on Sept 12, 2013 20:35:50 GMT -5
Because then the movie would be over in the 1st Act!?! It's one thing to deal with the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Principle by using a "Hiesenberg Compensator" (the Star Trek "tech" that allows for Transporters to work) but then all of a sudden not being able to use it for no other reason (and for no explanation) other than to drive a (weak) plot point (i.e. plot hole) is lazy at best and ignorant at worst of the genre. Abrams makes "good" sci-fi the way a monkey jumping up and down on a set of bag pipes makes "good" music. So you're saying that JJ Abrahms is the Jerry Bruckheimer of Sci-Fi? Explosions and blasts...... who needs a story line?? Uwe Boll or Michael Bay or... Abrahms makes B-movie grade sci-fi films with great special effects. |
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