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Post by creimes on Sept 19, 2013 15:32:12 GMT -5
How hot does the UPA get? I need to figure out my shelf situation and shelving above it. You should be fine with minimum an inch or so, they do have a fan inside to cool down the heat shrinks if needed, mine never seemed too get to warm, your best answer would come straight from Emotiva on clearance needed/suggested for the UPA-500. Chad
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Post by Dark Ranger on Sept 19, 2013 16:31:31 GMT -5
How hot does the UPA get? I need to figure out my shelf situation and shelving above it. The UPA-500 is the coolest running amplifier in my collection of 4 different amplifier models from Emotiva. Although it's powering only my four surrounds these days, it ran my 5.1 system last year from June to September 2012. It never got more than comfortably warm to the touch. My listening levels are typically 85 dB average at the MLP (~2 meters back). Creimes mentioned the UPA-500 includes fans. For what it's worth, I have not been able to trigger the fans at reasonable listening levels. The fans will kick on only when you're really thrashing the amp, and at those volume levels, you probably won't be able to hear the fans anyway. Here's a pic of what my system looked like from June to September 2012 (click to enlarge). Take note of the UPA-500 position at the bottom of the stack. The only air space above the UPA-500 vents was the space between the amp and XDA-1. I've since moved to a modular, shelf-based rack since I now have a lot more gear. [ You will be fine with an inch or two of air space around the amplifier.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 19, 2013 18:57:01 GMT -5
Thanks. I talked to tech support and they said 3". I had to make new holes for the shelves and move things around. I now have my Oppo 103, Hopper and surge protector on 3 shelves to the left, the tivo and UPA will share the middle, and the X4000 has the right side. Will look pretty good and the things that need air have it.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 19, 2013 19:38:55 GMT -5
Got a nice cozy spot made. Spent 4 hours on the stand, pulling it out and all the, re-routing the wires and drilling holes for the shelf movement.
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Post by creimes on Sept 19, 2013 20:07:27 GMT -5
Got a nice cozy spot made. Spent 4 hours on the stand, pulling it out and all the, re-routing the wires and drilling holes for the shelf movement. Sweet, yeah that's more than enough room
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 19, 2013 20:10:53 GMT -5
I could lowered the Tivo down a bit, but its doesnt need much and with the back on in the normal room light it doesnt look like such a large hole.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 19, 2013 21:27:00 GMT -5
Just looking, I guess they dont seel black trim for the UPA-500. Might have to pull them off and flat black em
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Post by dally on Sept 19, 2013 21:36:11 GMT -5
I think black trim for any of the 2RU products will work.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 19, 2013 21:37:29 GMT -5
OK. They just dont list it on their site.
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Post by dally on Sept 19, 2013 21:44:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think they've updated that product listing in awhile.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 20, 2013 8:48:04 GMT -5
Out for delivery! Pretty fast getting from TN to lower Alabama over night. Now I have to sit around and wonder when Fedex Ground will show!
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Post by dally on Sept 20, 2013 8:54:37 GMT -5
Wow! That was quick!
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 20, 2013 10:07:13 GMT -5
Fast, left TN last night and arrived at 9:30 this morning. Comes in baggy like Oppo Manual, power cord, spare fuses and 12v trigger cable (I bought a mono one from RS because that is what Denon recommends) 3 6ft interconnects Bottom Front (silver trim will be going) Top (much of the weight is the transformer; four 10,000uf caps) Back
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Post by Dark Ranger on Sept 20, 2013 12:18:36 GMT -5
OK, it's been TWO WHOLE HOURS!! There's nothing like unboxing a new amp. I'm glad to see the OPPO-esque wrapping has filtered down to the Ultra series. I believe Emotiva started doing that with the new XPRs last year. The UPA-500 is a surprisingly beefly little amp, ain't it? Hope things are going well in the setup process.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Sept 20, 2013 12:24:00 GMT -5
Yes, anxiously awaiting your first impressions!
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 20, 2013 12:42:21 GMT -5
Im still at work Will be tonight before I can play!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 14:51:35 GMT -5
For what its worth I had a upa-500 and it was a very real improvement to the amp section of my Denon 3311ci. I think that you will be real happy.
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 20, 2013 21:55:44 GMT -5
Here is my initial impression: Ignore all the wife frilly nilly stuff... Opinion: Since looking at amps, Ive heard a lot of input from both sides of the fence on brands, and the worthiness of separates in general. It's a pretty passionate subject (seems about as bad as Onkyo vs Denon ), and while I don't attempt to be an audiophile (lord knows I'm anal about video), I am still able to note differences. Since buying the Klipsch towers, Ive always loved the horns, but they were harsh to me in the beginning. As I grew accustomed to them I enjoyed the level of detail, and how they could be played loud, but still felt in scenes with a lot going (treble) some of the sounds felt especially squished together. Tonight we watched Jack the Giant Slayer in 3D, and I had her cranked, about as much as I could stand. I noticed a change in general in how my setup usually sounds in the loud scenes. IMO, the center has more presence, and the fronts were more clean in scenes with a lot going on. What I mean is, they were still the Klipsch horn sound, and maybe a tad harsh, but all the detail was there and I didn't feel it was being squished. When those action scenes would take off from 0-100, it was loud, all the minor sounds and details amongst the more loud action seemed to still be there and defined. I can't really find the words to describe it, I'll just say that in loud action scenes, the lighter detail sounds (like armor clanking) seem to be well defined, and not lost in the other sound. Of course this will take a lot more evaluation, but my initial impression is that when pushing the system, this amp is an improvement over the Denon 3312ci. Fact: After the 2 hour movie, the Denon X4000 which was being used as a pre pro, is more hot than the UPA-500
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Post by novisnick on Sept 20, 2013 22:13:06 GMT -5
I own a lesser klipsch, the KF 28s but the thing I think your grasping for is head room, more power, I know you don't need much with the klipsch but I have found the more clean power you have and the less you need to drive them the better the speakers become. No strain on the amp to produce the volume you want. I'm I hitting a on what your trying to say? I've used XPA-1Ls XPA-5 and AVR Yamaha 3020 with 185 watts driving two channels so I do have some experience with these type speakers. By the way, I like the horns on them as we'll. Peace, Nick
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Post by creimes on Sept 21, 2013 1:33:52 GMT -5
Just give yourself time to become accustomed to the way your system may or may not change going to separates, too many set themselves up for an instant extreme difference, not saying you won't notice big improvements but I find the more you listen the more improvements you will find, especially on good recorded music. Good to hear you are liking it so far though, welcome to the world of never ending upgrades....lol. I was actually at a customers doing a copper to fiber optic migrate and asked if I could put some music on, it was a Denon 2112 with some smaller Klipsch reference towers, not sure the model but man did it sound bland, just no life to the music with that receiver, kind of like going from FM to AM Chad
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