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Post by Dark Ranger on Sept 21, 2013 1:42:50 GMT -5
gadgtfreek, Thanks for the update! It's great to read your first impressions. There are many variables involved and while one person might hear a "night and day difference," another person may not because of differences in room acoustics, speakers, hearing sensitivity, and internal processing in the brain. I also recommend playing some of your favorite music. I've found it's generally easier to pick out differences with music than with movies. Point is, don't get too stressed out if you don't experience a giant grizzly bear jumping out of the amp and chasing you around the room.  I'm not surprised the UPA-500 is running cooler than the AVR. Great pics of the entertainment center, too, thanks for sharing. |
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 21, 2013 8:48:59 GMT -5
I own a lesser klipsch, the KF 28s but the thing I think your grasping for is head room, more power, I know you don't need much with the klipsch but I have found the more clean power you have and the less you need to drive them the better the speakers become. No strain on the amp to produce the volume you want. I'm I hitting a on what your trying to say? I've used XPA-1Ls XPA-5 and AVR Yamaha 3020 with 185 watts driving two channels so I do have some experience with these type speakers. By the way, I like the horns on them as we'll. Peace, Nick Maybe thats it. I mean I have loved the horns, and I play this stupid loud on movies because of the room Im dealing with. I think I get the more "open" comments, and I look forward to pushing it on more stuff. I wouldn't say it was a huge difference, but I felt it was more clean in high activity, loud scenes. |
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Post by gadgtfreek on Sept 21, 2013 8:52:23 GMT -5
Just give yourself time to become accustomed to the way your system may or may not change going to separates, too many set themselves up for an instant extreme difference, not saying you won't notice big improvements but I find the more you listen the more improvements you will find, especially on good recorded music. Good to hear you are liking it so far though, welcome to the world of never ending upgrades....lol. I was actually at a customers doing a copper to fiber optic migrate and asked if I could put some music on, it was a Denon 2112 with some smaller Klipsch reference towers, not sure the model but man did it sound bland, just no life to the music with that receiver, kind of like going from FM to AM  Chad I find this so with tv's, Ive been a video guy for awhile and own my own calibration gear. Video reviews in mags are too hard for me to take that seriously, because IMO they never have the time required to fully vet a display with mixed content. Im a newbie to the audio side of it, maybe only 2-3 serious years so far, I have only had the Klipsch for 1.5 and the VTF for 1, and Im already planning a second VTF15 in January. I try and be as impartial as I can, because too many people like things just because they bought them and thats not fair to others. I probably spent more time listening to the movie last night than I did watching it LOL. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 9:37:12 GMT -5
sounds to me like you need to rewatch some movies your familiar with to really be able to judge the difference in sound I know when I went from my pioneer receiver to the upa-700 it was like a whole new system that I was hearing. The authority and control of the details that a separate amp allows is is just audio bliss...... Happy listening/watching
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Post by flamingeye on Sept 21, 2013 16:34:53 GMT -5
Thanks. Just an FYI, I regularly listen to blu-rays at 0.0db on the Denon volume setting. Many times a 7.1 lossless track requires me to go to +2.0 db. It's not making me deaf or anything, sounds about right for a blu-ray movie, I think part of it is the room size and ceiling height. I wonder at that volume load, how is the Denon amp going to act vs the Emotiva. And what would a "low noise floor" be? Emotiva's class H amps have the lowest noise floor I've ever heard from a amp, but of course I haven't heard all amps but Emotiva prices are hard to beat |
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Post by flamingeye on Sept 21, 2013 16:46:37 GMT -5
if you put room treatments in I bet some of if not all that harsh sound will go away , Klipsch speakers really improve with room treatments more so then most speakers IMHO
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Post by bhatch on Jul 22, 2014 22:05:11 GMT -5
I have Klipsch RF 82 ll speakers and rf 62 center.powered by onkyo nr818 avr. I also have a emotiva xpa3 power amp. And two rb81 surround speaker, an two Rs 62 side surround. Is it worth bi amping the rf 82 and losing the back surround speakers. Will I notice any difference In sound quality.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 22, 2014 22:57:07 GMT -5
I have Klipsch RF 82 ll speakers and rf 62 center.powered by onkyo nr818 avr. I also have a emotiva xpa3 power amp. And two rb81 surround speaker, an two Rs 62 side surround. Is it worth bi amping the rf 82 and losing the back surround speakers. Will I notice any difference In sound quality. I think you'd notice a larger difference losing your rears than you'd gain by bi-amping. To qualify however, you might gain a very slight bit with two channel music but lose more with 7.1. |
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Post by flyimages on Sept 2, 2014 15:05:03 GMT -5
Do you still have the same setup goin? So far would you say it's enough a difference to keep the UPA?
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Post by ctconger on Sept 4, 2014 8:35:28 GMT -5
Mine runs very cool.
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