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Post by karabas on Oct 8, 2013 9:32:55 GMT -5
Hello All
I'm a newbie here and need your advice. I'm trying to choose which Emotiva will be good for me
so I have :
Klipsch F-30 Fronts
Klipsch WC-24 Center
Klipsch S-20 Rear
Klipsch RW12D Sub
Samsung HW-D7000 Receiver
How can I improve the sound?
Thank you in advance
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Oct 8, 2013 9:50:54 GMT -5
Hello All I'm a newbie here and need your advice. I'm trying to choose which Emotiva will be good for me so I have : Klipsch F-30 Fronts Klipsch WC-24 Center Klipsch S-20 Rear Klipsch RW12D Sub Samsung HW-D7000 Receiver How can I improve the sound? Thank you in advance Welcome, While I'm sure other members here will also give you sage advice, allow me to put my two cents in. First, before worrying about what gear you need, ensure that you've done your due diligence in setting your speakers up properly. This means taking the time to make sure they're placed appropriately in your living space. This process can take days to even weeks so don't be in a huge hurry to "solve" any problems straight away. Once you have your speakers set in your room just so then we can worry about equipment. Because you've chosen Klipsch speakers you're not going to need gobs of horsepower in order to make them "sing." An Emotiva UPA-500 multi-channel power amplifier will drive your speakers wonderfully, though if you have a larger room you might consider an XPA-5, but, again, only if your room is a) larger or b) you like a lot of volume. I would steer you towards an UMC-200 AV preamp, for its simplicity and excellent sound quality. Forgive me, but you sound like you may be relatively new to home theater so the UMC-200's auto room equalization hardware/software would/could be of benefit to you. From there get yourself a solid source component, preferably one that handles streaming services too -say the Oppo BDP-103 and you should be good to go. Don't spend money on cables, buy generic or buy from Emotiva (our prices are pennies above generic) and enjoy. Andrew |
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Post by karabas on Oct 8, 2013 12:17:32 GMT -5
Thank you Andrew
My HT room is 13x18 and I was planning to go with XPA-2 for the Fronts and UPA-200 for the Rears and let my receiver drive the Sub and Center or something, but may be I was wrong.
Thank you
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Post by jdskycaster on Oct 8, 2013 12:46:31 GMT -5
Given your room size and speakers the XPA-2 is overkill. Also, the center speaker is the most critical and if anything you want your best amplifier driving it along with the mains. If you are future proofing because you might change up to some less efficient speakers then get an XPA-3 (use the receiver to drive your surrounds) or an XPA-5. I agree with Andrew that an UPA-500 is plenty for your current setup, spend the money saved on a better pre-pro or AVR.
Getting good bass response in your room will probably deliver the single best discernible difference in sound quality for HT. Spend some time on speaker and sub placement and also agree that good room correction (addressing the sub channel specifically) can make a huge improvement.
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 8, 2013 13:01:18 GMT -5
Thank you Andrew My HT room is 13x18 and I was planning to go with XPA-2 for the Fronts and UPA-200 for the Rears and let my receiver drive the Sub and Center or something, but may be I was wrong. Thank you If you were going for two channel as well as home theater, then the XPA-2 would give you a very sophisticated two channel presentation. But if your emphasis is home theater, then Andrews suggestion of the UPA-500 is excellent. The center speaker carries almost all the dialog and a surprising amount of foley sounds. For home theater you need to treat the front three speakers equally. (Drivers and power). |
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Post by karabas on Oct 8, 2013 13:43:15 GMT -5
Thank you jdskycaster.
I like my current AVR because it lets me play Blu-rays, drives my speakers(for now) and streams Netflix, audio/video/pictures I have on my desktop in the second floor office. Plus it's a space saver.
The reason I was going to control my Center speaker by the receiver is that the Klipsch recommended amplifier power for the center speaker is 100 w.
Don't you think XPA-5 will be overkill?
Thank you
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Post by karabas on Oct 8, 2013 14:07:21 GMT -5
Thank you jdskycaster. I like my current AVR because it lets me play Blu-rays, drives my speakers(for now) and streams Netflix, audio/video/pictures I have on my desktop in the second floor office. Plus it's a space saver. The reason I was going to control my Center speaker by the receiver is that the Klipsch recommended amplifier power for the center speaker is 100 w. Don't you think XPA-5 will be overkill? Thank you |
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Post by karabas on Oct 8, 2013 14:31:22 GMT -5
repeetavx
How can I equally drive my center and fronts if they have different RMS?
Front 150w/600w
Center 90w
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Post by creimes on Oct 8, 2013 14:34:50 GMT -5
Thank you jdskycaster. I like my current AVR because it lets me play Blu-rays, drives my speakers(for now) and streams Netflix, audio/video/pictures I have on my desktop in the second floor office. Plus it's a space saver. The reason I was going to control my Center speaker by the receiver is that the Klipsch recommended amplifier power for the center speaker is 100 w. Don't you think XPA-5 will be overkill? Thank you Don't worry about too much power, worry more about not enough power, Andrew's suggestion to me is a good one in going with the UMC-200 and UPA-500, in my opinion you will notice a big difference in quality. And the Oppo is a good choice in quality but any standard Blu-ray player with streaming functions would do you for now, or you may even be able to use your samsung receiver as the palyer and streamer for now by connecting the HDMI out to one of the HDMI inputs on the UMC-200. Do you have a budget in mind Chad |
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Post by jdskycaster on Oct 8, 2013 15:05:27 GMT -5
Thank you jdskycaster. I like my current AVR because it lets me play Blu-rays, drives my speakers(for now) and streams Netflix, audio/video/pictures I have on my desktop in the second floor office. Plus it's a space saver. The reason I was going to control my Center speaker by the receiver is that the Klipsch recommended amplifier power for the center speaker is 100 w. Don't you think XPA-5 will be overkill? Thank you Yes, which is why I suggested it only if you are thinking of upgrading your speakers down the road then the XPA-5 will allow for a wide range of speakers. For what you have now the UPA-500 is a good choice. Based on your other post you are confusing speaker power handling with amplifier output power ratings. These do not have to "match up." Ideally you want equal power across the fronts and having an amp that can output more power than the speakers are rated to handle is not an issue as long as you use some care in not driving your speakers too hard. |
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Post by dally on Oct 8, 2013 15:52:17 GMT -5
Unfortunately your reciever does not have pre outs,so you cannot connect an amplifier to it, although,it would still make a good blu ray player and streamer. I agree with Andrews' suggestion of the umc-200 and UPA-500. If music is important, or like Andrew said, you like it LOUD, an XPA-5 would work very well.
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Post by dally on Oct 8, 2013 16:33:35 GMT -5
repeetavx How can I equally drive my center and fronts if they have different RMS? Front 150w/600w Center 90w My surrounds are only rated for 150 watts and my amp is rated 550 watts per channel. No problem at all to have more power than what your speakers are rated for.  |
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 8, 2013 18:27:46 GMT -5
repeetavx How can I equally drive my center and fronts if they have different RMS? Front 150w/600w Center 90w My surrounds are only rated for 150 watts and my amp is rated 550 watts per channel. No problem at all to have more power than what your speakers are rated for. Unless you try and use your setup as a weapons system and try to melt the sheet rock off your walls with it. Then the speakers will overheat and burn out first. Odds are your wife will have intervened long before that happens. |
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Post by dally on Oct 8, 2013 20:09:12 GMT -5
Your right about that.  She would intervene LONG before I could burn up my voice coils. I consider her my built in safety mechanism!  |
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Post by karabas on Oct 9, 2013 14:52:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately your reciever does not have pre outs,so you cannot connect an amplifier to it, although,it would still make a good blu ray player and streamer. I agree with Andrews' suggestion of the umc-200 and UPA-500. If music is important, or like Andrew said, you like it LOUD, an XPA-5 would work very well. Thank you dally, So UMC-200 will replace my receiver or I can use it with my receiver?and since I don't have pre-outs I will have to connect UPA-500 or XPA-5 through UMC-200? |
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Post by dally on Oct 9, 2013 15:06:20 GMT -5
Since your reciever is a reciever/blu ray combo,you can still use your reciever as a source. Connect hdmi out on your reciever to the umc-200. Your amps and sub are also connected to the umc-200. Speakers are connected to your amps. Now your Samsung will just be your blu-ray/ content streamer and the umc-200 will perform all the processing duties.
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 9, 2013 17:01:51 GMT -5
Thank you jdskycaster. I like my current AVR because it lets me play Blu-rays, drives my speakers(for now) and streams Netflix, audio/video/pictures I have on my desktop in the second floor office. Plus it's a space saver. The reason I was going to control my Center speaker by the receiver is that the Klipsch recommended amplifier power for the center speaker is 100 w. Don't you think XPA-5 will be overkill? Thank you Don't worry about too much power, worry more about not enough power, Andrew's suggestion to me is a good one in going with the UMC-200 and UPA-500, in my opinion you will notice a big difference in quality. And the Oppo is a good choice in quality but any standard Blu-ray player with streaming functions would do you for now, or you may even be able to use your samsung receiver as the palyer and streamer for now by connecting the HDMI out to one of the HDMI inputs on the UMC-200. Do you have a budget in mind Chad And what is not enough power? |
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Post by creimes on Oct 9, 2013 17:41:51 GMT -5
Don't worry about too much power, worry more about not enough power, Andrew's suggestion to me is a good one in going with the UMC-200 and UPA-500, in my opinion you will notice a big difference in quality. And the Oppo is a good choice in quality but any standard Blu-ray player with streaming functions would do you for now, or you may even be able to use your samsung receiver as the palyer and streamer for now by connecting the HDMI out to one of the HDMI inputs on the UMC-200. Do you have a budget in mind Chad And what is not enough power? I'm guessing the Samsung AVR might be underpowered when wanting to crank up a movie....no, I know my Yamaha RXV-1065 I had before going to separates sounded very thin and bland compared to my Emotiva amps, especially when turning it up as which I regularly like to do. Just saying it could result in speaker damage before a higher powered amp will. |
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Post by karabas on Oct 11, 2013 12:33:33 GMT -5
The only problem that UMC-200 doesn't have video processing capabilities.
Thank you all for help!!!
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She would intervene LONG before I could burn up my voice coils. I consider her my built in safety mechanism! 
