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Post by harri009 on Oct 19, 2013 19:11:20 GMT -5
So I decided about 6 months ago I would sell off the stereo and put some money back. Well after about a month I realized that I can't stand not having a stereo. I purchased a few different pieces of equipment before going back to what I feel are the best speakers currently out there for the money, that being the Magnepan 3.7's. The gear I tried after I sold the Ayre, pass x250, and 3.6's were Dynaudio S1.4's with a modwright KWI-200. Then I tried the Revel F208's with the modwright. Finally before my current system I gave a run at some really pricey speakers, the Sanders Sound 10c's with magtech and innersound amp. While each of these systems had a few things I enjoyed none had the magic of the Magnepans. With all that being said my newest system is consisting of Magnepan 3.7's, Esoteric SA-10, Dodd audio battery powered tube pre, APC S15, Pass Labs x350, PS-audio GCPH, and a new re-bought Marantz TT-15. Part of the reason for this post is for the commentary of all the things we as audio enthusiasts have bought loved, sold, and rebought lol. Also I have noticed there has been quite a bit of conversation lately on tubes and I just received my new Dodd pre yesterday, so far very happy with it. For the new emo guys, no I do not have any emotiva equipment any longer. I have great respect for emotiva and generally suggest their equipment. I still post here and lurk here as I have many friends here and enjoy the lounges environment.
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Post by novisnick on Oct 19, 2013 20:57:51 GMT -5
Looks good and glad you still lurk here. If it sounds good to you, and that's all that really counts here, then that's great. HAPPY EARS CANT READ LABLES! He,,,,,,,,,,He,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Peace, Nick
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Post by GreenKiwi on Oct 19, 2013 21:12:00 GMT -5
Sweet system. I really want to hear some 3.7s. That Dodd pre looks quite interesting.
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Post by audiofile on Oct 19, 2013 21:15:08 GMT -5
Nice upgrade! Even though this is the Emotiva Lounge, I rather treat it much like a music lover lounge. We all have different equipment and, as you say, things come and go. I'm going through a bit of an upgrade myself but I'll be keeping my EMO amps in this instance.
Good luck with your future upgrades!
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Post by harri009 on Oct 19, 2013 22:23:38 GMT -5
Thanks guys! The dodd is an interesting unit, I have only played with it a couple hours so far but I like what I am hearing. As for the 3.7's it is super nice to have some Maggie's back in the house. After you live with Maggie's for a while there's just no going back.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 19, 2013 23:39:00 GMT -5
Very nice system harri, tough to beat Maggies and Pass, it all looks good!
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 11:19:07 GMT -5
After you live with Maggie's for a while there's just no going back. Not necessarily. ...
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Post by harri009 on Oct 20, 2013 12:15:08 GMT -5
After you live with Maggie's for a while there's just no going back. Not necessarily. ... For me there wasn't. I listed the speakers I tried after I sold the 3.6's and I also went to RMAF this year. After hearing what's out there, albeit in non optimal rooms, I won't be selling the 3.7's anytime soon. For me in my room, perfect.
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 13:24:51 GMT -5
After you live with Maggie's for a while there's just no going back. For me there wasn't. I listed the speakers I tried after I sold the 3.6's and I also went to RMAF this year. After hearing what's out there, albeit in non optimal rooms, I won't be selling the 3.7's anytime soon. For me in my room, perfect. And that's awesome! Glad you're happy. But your quote says ' After "you" live with Maggies...' implying the reader. I was a Magnepan owner for over 2 years, I won't be going back. I was at RMAF also. Vandersteen 5's are the only speakers I experienced at the show that I'd trade for today. It's wonderful to be happy with the current gear owned.
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Post by john57 on Oct 20, 2013 13:32:58 GMT -5
I also was a Maggie owner I won't be going back. I am more into near-field monitors and headphones. I do enjoy my Airmotiv 6
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Post by harri009 on Oct 20, 2013 13:38:26 GMT -5
It is always funny to me how differently we all hear things. I have heard Polk speakers on many occasions and while I know you love yours (I read your customer service experience which was amazing) I have never enjoyed their sound myself. Same can be said for Maggie's, I have read many posts that they weren't to the liking of some and then there are people like me who love them. I had a friend at RMAF with me this year. One room which made me laugh was one of the YG rooms. We walked out of the room together with him saying how great they sounded and me saying the reviews are wrong these things suck. He and I own the same speakers at our homes lol.
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 13:38:28 GMT -5
I also was a Maggie owner I won't be going back. I am more into near-field monitors and headphones. I do enjoy my Airmotiv 6 Guess that's why there is such a diversity of gear out there. One man's treasure is another man's Audiogon sale... ...
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 13:47:13 GMT -5
It is always funny to me how differently we all hear things. I have heard Polk speakers on many occasions and while I know you love yours (I read your customer service experience which was amazing) I have never enjoyed their sound myself. Same can be said for Maggie's, I have read many posts that they weren't to the liking of some and then there are people like me who love them. I had a friend at RMAF with me this year. One room which made me laugh was one of the YG rooms. We walked out of the room together with him saying how great they sounded and me saying the reviews are wrong these things suck. He and I own the same speakers at our homes lol. I'd take exception to you having heard Polks on many occasions. There is no Polk house sound. I've owned MANY sets over the decades. The only lines that IMHO deserve to be in a two channel system in the 21st century are the LSi and LSiM series, and even those two lines do not sound very similar. Of course there are rabid Polk fans that would absolutely kill me for leaving out the SDA speaker line. Oh well, to each his own...
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Post by luvtubes on Oct 20, 2013 14:02:44 GMT -5
It is always funny to me how differently we all hear things. I have heard Polk speakers on many occasions and while I know you love yours (I read your customer service experience which was amazing) I have never enjoyed their sound myself. Same can be said for Maggie's, I have read many posts that they weren't to the liking of some and then there are people like me who love them. I had a friend at RMAF with me this year. One room which made me laugh was one of the YG rooms. We walked out of the room together with him saying how great they sounded and me saying the reviews are wrong these things suck. He and I own the same speakers at our homes lol. I'd take exception to you having heard Polks on many occasions. There is no Polk house sound. I've owned MANY sets over the decades. The only lines that IMHO deserve to be in a two channel system in the 21st century are the LSi and LSiM series, and even those two lines do not sound very similar. Of course there are rabid Polk fans that would absolutely kill me for leaving out the SDA speaker line. Oh well, to each his own... My fully upgraded and restored SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's. I have also run Magnepan MG-20's... the only reason I don't have them still is because the big Maggie's need o be at least 5 feet off the walls to deliver their best sound, and I just don't have that kind of space. The big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other, and the upgrades brought pinpoint imaging within the larger acoustic space. For my dual purpose (HT/2CH) needs, they fit the bill perfectly.
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 14:19:32 GMT -5
I'd take exception to you having heard Polks on many occasions. There is no Polk house sound. I've owned MANY sets over the decades. The only lines that IMHO deserve to be in a two channel system in the 21st century are the LSi and LSiM series, and even those two lines do not sound very similar. Of course there are rabid Polk fans that would absolutely kill me for leaving out the SDA speaker line. Oh well, to each his own... My fully upgraded and restored SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's. I have also run Magnepan MG-20's... the only reason I don't have them still is because the big Maggie's need o be at least 5 feet off the walls to deliver their best sound, and I just don't have that kind of space. The big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other, and the upgrades brought pinpoint imaging within the larger acoustic space. For my dual purpose (HT/2CH) needs, they fit the bill perfectly. You are one of the ones I was thinking about when I mentioned rabid Polk fans. I agree "the big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other". I don't agree "SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's". It's your opinion John, not mine.
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Post by villock on Oct 20, 2013 14:30:00 GMT -5
My fully upgraded and restored SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's. I have also run Magnepan MG-20's... the only reason I don't have them still is because the big Maggie's need o be at least 5 feet off the walls to deliver their best sound, and I just don't have that kind of space. The big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other, and the upgrades brought pinpoint imaging within the larger acoustic space. For my dual purpose (HT/2CH) needs, they fit the bill perfectly. You are one of the ones I was thinking about when I mentioned rabid Polk fans. I agree "the big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other". I don't agree "SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's". It's your opinion John, not mine. I'm with John on this one ocezam.....I know shocker. Haven't heard the LSi/M's yet but have heard the LSi's and to my ears they have nothing on my SDA's. The LSi/M's must really be something but like you said, these are only opinions, there is no right and wrong
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Post by luvtubes on Oct 20, 2013 14:32:28 GMT -5
My fully upgraded and restored SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's. I have also run Magnepan MG-20's... the only reason I don't have them still is because the big Maggie's need o be at least 5 feet off the walls to deliver their best sound, and I just don't have that kind of space. The big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other, and the upgrades brought pinpoint imaging within the larger acoustic space. For my dual purpose (HT/2CH) needs, they fit the bill perfectly. You are one of the ones I was thinking about when I mentioned rabid Polk fans. I agree "the big Polks deliver a soundstage like no other". I don't agree "SRS 1.2TL's would easily handle the LSi/M's". It's your opinion John, not mine. I agree on opinions. I was privileged to be a part of the home demo that Polk put together and had the 707's and the 1.2TL's head to head in my own home. I also ran a few demo sessions for others... the end result was the 707's seemed a bit more center focused and imaged as well as the TL's, but that they lacked the ability to "attack" the music that the older speakers have. By that, I mean this... the old Polks are able to reproduce the initial contact of a cymbal tap or a rim hit on a snare drum, the drawing of a breath into a tenor sax... even the finger contact of a string on a guitar... before the string is even played. All of these micro-details tended to be lost on the 707's, and my results were shared by every single person that heard them side by side. The 707's are a great speaker, and I would be proud to own them... really I would, but the upgraded crossovers and all the other updates combined with the replacement tweeters produced by Polk, makes the TL's a very hard act to beat IMHO... I am at this time working out the details for building new cabinets that share the same basic concepts as the LSi/M cabinets, but using the exact same front baffle as the SRS. It should be a fun project. One other point... The SRS 1.2TL's cost a bit over 3000.00 new in 1989. At today's rate, that would be near 10K. The 707's retail at 4000.00 for the pair. Yes, engineering has improved and all, but the point is that the SRS 1.2TL was intended to be a cost no object statement piece, as was the SRT that followed. The 707's were very well engineered, but cost most certainly was a factor.
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 14:51:24 GMT -5
I'm with John on this one ocezam.....I know shocker. Haven't heard the LSi/M's yet but have heard the LSi's and to my ears they have nothing on my SDA's. The LSi/M's must really be something but like you said, these are only opinions, there is no right and wrong. I'd guess that you'll still feel that way after you hear the LSiM's. Like Magnepans, those that fall in love with SDA's usually stay in love. They're simply not my cup of tea. Peace. ...
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Post by villock on Oct 20, 2013 14:52:07 GMT -5
I'm curious ocezam, have you heard a modded set of SDA's or just stock sets?
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Post by ocezam on Oct 20, 2013 14:58:59 GMT -5
The 707's are a great speaker, and I would be proud to own them... really I would, but the upgraded crossovers and all the other updates combined with the replacement tweeters produced by Polk, makes the TL's a very hard act to beat IMHO. Well, maybe not so humble. I am at this time working out the details for building new cabinets that share the same basic concepts as the LSi/M cabinets, but using the exact same front baffle as the SRS. It should be a fun project. Yeah I've heard (read) you mention this before. I'm not sure how you'll pull it off, but it's definitely an interesting idea. One other point... The SRS 1.2TL's cost a bit over 3000.00 new in 1989. At today's rate, that would be near 10K. The 707's retail at 4000.00 for the pair. Yes, engineering has improved and all, but the point is that the SRS 1.2TL was intended to be a cost no object statement piece, as was the SRT that followed. The 707's were very well engineered, but cost most certainly was a factor. Irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
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