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Post by evanspurlock on Nov 1, 2013 14:29:16 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I am about to purchase the Denon x4000 and I was thinking about adding the Emotiva Xpa-200 to drive my fronts but Ive head the x4000 sounds pretty good so is there any need in getting the Emotiva?
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Post by creimes on Nov 2, 2013 0:08:20 GMT -5
Hey guys, I am about to purchase the Denon x4000 and I was thinking about adding the Emotiva Xpa-200 to drive my fronts but Ive head the x4000 sounds pretty good so is there any need in getting the Emotiva? Are you in the U.S, if so why not take the 30 day trial and find out, I moved from a Yamaha RXV-1065 to a pair of Emotiva UPA-1's and will never go back to powering my setup with a receiver, just my 2 cents. What speakers do you run, depending on your budget I would go XPA-3 to power your front 3 and let the receiver take care of the surrounds. Chad |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 2, 2013 0:17:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't do what you are doing. I would do go separates right off the bat.
UMC-200 is a good option. The Sherbourn PT 7030 will give you XLR outputs if you are interested. Purchase an XPA-5 Gen 1 used amp for around $600. You will spend less on a UMC-200 and XPA-5 gen 1 used combo (warranty transfers!) and get significantly more power and sound quality.
Another caveat.... HDMI 2 is about to come out. So the current 4 K support tends to be a little meaningless when that happens. When HDMI 2 comes out nearly every single reciever on the market will be obsolete. So you may want to wait.
Either way you do this, if you get an XPA-5...... everytime your reciever becomes obsolete - you will not be paying to replace your powerful five channel amp. It will be there to stay. Then you can be free to upgrade whatever component you want without paying for a perfectly good amp section that you already own. That way when you buy a future standalone processor, your money will be going towards the pre-pro sound quality rather than also going to pay for 7 channels of amplification which will be outclassed by the XPA-5 you already have. Especially with the price of the Denon I would definitely go separates if at all possible.
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Post by Lsc on Nov 2, 2013 4:29:11 GMT -5
I would consider just getting the XPA-5 gen 2 for 900 and the UMC-200 for 500.
I agree not using a receiver is a good idea. My Onkyo 708 was replaced with the UMC-200 and the improvement is staggering.
And the XPA-5 gen 2 is probably a thousand times better than the amp in that receiver. But if you favor ease of use and features I can see why you would go with the receiver.
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Post by creimes on Nov 2, 2013 9:37:18 GMT -5
Oops didn't notice he hadn't purchased the Denon yet, I'm with moving to separates and do away with the receiver purchase, and if you are needing features like Airplay just buy an apple tv, separates are the way to go.
Chad
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Post by evanspurlock on Nov 2, 2013 11:37:25 GMT -5
Well the reason I like the Denon is because im a fan of audyssey and ive read great reviews on the xt32. I have a pair of B&W 683's with the htm62 center and i had considered the xpa-3 but i thought 200 watts with be too much for the center. But i appreciate the input and i will definitely consider all of your options!
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2013 11:39:14 GMT -5
Well the reason I like the Denon is because im a fan of audyssey and ive read great reviews on the xt32. I have a pair of B&W 683's with the htm62 center and i had considered the xpa-3 but i thought 200 watts with be too much for the center. But i appreciate the input and i will definitely consider all of your options! There is no thing as " Too much clean power " Peace, Nick |
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Post by evanspurlock on Nov 2, 2013 11:47:46 GMT -5
Well the reason I like the Denon is because im a fan of audyssey and ive read great reviews on the xt32. I have a pair of B&W 683's with the htm62 center and i had considered the xpa-3 but i thought 200 watts with be too much for the center. But i appreciate the input and i will definitely consider all of your options! There is no thing as " Too much clean power " Peace, Nick Haha yeah i guess your right! |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 2, 2013 12:07:43 GMT -5
Well the reason I like the Denon is because im a fan of audyssey and ive read great reviews on the xt32. I have a pair of B&W 683's with the htm62 center and i had considered the xpa-3 but i thought 200 watts with be too much for the center. But i appreciate the input and i will definitely consider all of your options! I've never heard audyssey RC or how the two compare. But I think that the actual source signal to be more important. The upcoming XMC-1 (still quite a ways away - February?) will have a pretty robust room correction system called DIRAC. |
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Post by evanspurlock on Nov 2, 2013 14:17:25 GMT -5
Well the reason I like the Denon is because im a fan of audyssey and ive read great reviews on the xt32. I have a pair of B&W 683's with the htm62 center and i had considered the xpa-3 but i thought 200 watts with be too much for the center. But i appreciate the input and i will definitely consider all of your options! I've never heard audyssey RC or how the two compare. But I think that the actual source signal to be more important. The upcoming XMC-1 (still quite a ways away - February?) will have a pretty robust room correction system called DIRAC. Well that xmc-1 sounds nice but its a bit on the expensive side lol |
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Post by evanspurlock on Nov 2, 2013 15:06:04 GMT -5
So you guys are saying separates will sound better than an avr paired with either the xpa-200 or xpa-3?
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Post by creimes on Nov 2, 2013 15:23:46 GMT -5
So you guys are saying separates will sound better than an avr paired with either the xpa-200 or xpa-3? Some may notice and some may not depending on the rest of their system, personally I would pick up a PT-7030 before the Denon as why would I buy a receiver with a amplifier section and have external amps, if you already owned a receiver that would be fine but coming from someone who has moved from a receiver to separates I will never be going back to a receiver, especially for the cost to SQ ratio. PT-7030 and XPA-5 is a killer setup for $1800, no receiver in that price range if any will compete, their might be some but I'm betting they would cost several times the price of the 7030 and XPA-5. Chad |
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