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Post by copperband on Nov 9, 2013 13:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by sharky on Nov 9, 2013 13:42:21 GMT -5
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Post by sharky on Nov 9, 2013 13:49:54 GMT -5
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Post by copperband on Nov 9, 2013 16:13:31 GMT -5
Sharky, Thank you so much! I thought ripping is easy but I guess nothing venture nothing gain  Question: the few tracks I ripped to Flac(for testing purpose) do not have name of artist and name of song, it shows 02track02 for 2nd song of the cd. Which part did I do wrong? I followed pretty much all your settings. |
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Post by sharky on Nov 9, 2013 16:38:09 GMT -5
That means 1 of 2 things happened:
a) You didn't get the metadata information for the CD from the online database or didn't fill in the song names, CD title, etc. in EAC main screen before ripping the CD, so EAC has no idea of what to name that file or put in the song info for the player.
b1) If you are referring to just the filename then you didn't fill in correctly the "Filename" tab in EAC Options.
b2) If you are referring to just the song info that appears in the player then you didn't fill in correctly the "External Compression" tab in EAC "Compression Options" menu.
Have a quick check at that and compare to the tutorial.
If you still have any problems give me a shout,
Cheers,
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Post by garbulky on Nov 9, 2013 21:01:13 GMT -5
copperband. I use EAC and autoflac. They work great. But the initial configuration of EAC is a HUGE pain. The biggest pain is honestly getting the file name to match what autoflac will take.
In EAC under "compression options->external compression->additional command line."
It says: -T "artist=%artist%" -T "title=%title%" -T "album=%albumtitle%" -T "date=%year%" -T "tracknumber=%tracknr%" -T "genre=%genre%" -5 %source%
On compression options-> ID3 tag it says "%albumartist% - %albumtitle%"
Under EAC options: filename: it says "%artist% - %title%"
On autoflac output options:
Name: %A\%C
Image: %A - %C
Hope that helps.
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Post by copperband on Nov 10, 2013 0:18:21 GMT -5
thanks Sharky. You are right. I did "a" wrong.
I fixed it. Now I get all the information on the EAC main menu. Do I need to rip those same songs again in order to get all songs named?
Does EAC work for language other than English?
After ripping, besides the Flac file for the songs. I see a log file and a M3U file. Can I delete those two files?
Thanks.
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Post by creimes on Nov 10, 2013 0:25:50 GMT -5
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Post by GreenKiwi on Nov 10, 2013 2:06:59 GMT -5
I did the same with jriver. It was well worth the purchase price in terms of the value of my time.
Plus it's an awesome playback program.
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Post by sharky on Nov 10, 2013 8:12:16 GMT -5
copperband. I use EAC and autoflac. I used to as well, but since EAC evolved and incorporated most of autoflac's functionalities I think it's an unnecessary level of complexity since I can do everything I need ripwise with just EAC. Do I need to rip those same songs again in order to get all songs named? Does EAC work for language other than English? After ripping, besides the Flac file for the songs. I see a log file and a M3U file. Can I delete those two files? You can either re-rip them or use a tagging utility like mp3tag for instance that will allow you to write the file tags with the proper information. (note: despite the mp3 in the name the program tags all kind of files including flac) Yes, absolutely. If you are referring to the program interface itself, EAC can be displayed in several languages, just go to EAC Options and in the "general" tab choose the language you're more comfortable with and restart the program. If you mean only the artist/album name/song title then yes, EAC is quite capable of handling foreign characters but... sometimes the on-line databases are not. So, always check the downloaded information for any typos and correct them manually before you start the rip. You can delete both of them, M3U is a tracklist file used by some players like WinAmp, but has gone down in popularity. The log file is just the extraction report with all the ripping information. If you don't want to be bothered with deleting them after each rip you can just configure EAC to not create them. Just go into the EAC Option menu, from there choose the "Tools" tab and untick both "create m3u playlist on extraction" and "automatically write status report after extraction". I purchased dBpoweramp for all my ripping and converting needs. Very good software. But since EAC does the same, and it's free... EAC is a bit of a pain to configure before the first rip, granted. That was the main reason I did the tutorial. But after that it's as simple to use as any other ripper and is the only free software ensuring bit perfect extraction (for windows). I did the same with jriver. It was well worth the purchase price in terms of the value of my time. Plus it's an awesome playback program. I own jriver as well. I think it's the best commercial option in terms of functionalities & play quality for the money you pay. You can also use secure ripping in jriver, even if I keep using EAC because I know how to read EAC's logs and I like checking it all after the rip. I particularly like jriver since I can use a remote with it and it has some nice visuals and library management options. |
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Post by copperband on Nov 10, 2013 22:44:10 GMT -5
Thank you Sharky!
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Post by copperband on Nov 13, 2013 23:33:19 GMT -5
Hi Sharky, I refer to this: "If you mean only the artist/album name/song title then yes, EAC is quite capable of handling foreign characters but... sometimes the on-line databases are not. So, always check the downloaded information for any typos and correct them manually before you start the rip. I made changes to all information before I rip the cd. A few problems: -the song's cover image shows the image for "HP Connected Music" instead of the album cover image even though it is there under EAC. After the rip I click the song and HP Connected Music pops up to play the song(in flac now), wonder if this is related -If HP connected Music(guess it is a music player/program) plays flac then I don't need to download Foobar anymore? My pc uses Windows 8. -In EAC set up where do I delete the 02 in front of the song, for example it shows "02 My Confession" now. I don't want the 02 -I transfer a few songs to my smartphone Samsung Galaxy S4, same thing happened to the song's cover image, it does not show -I transfer a few Chinese songs to my phone and "  " shows up for names of album & song. Does it relate to the ID3tag under EAC/Compression options since it is all blank per your guide? Thanks. |
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Post by sharky on Nov 14, 2013 20:03:41 GMT -5
So, let me speculate a bit - Probably HP Connected Music is the default player for flac files in your system. It might be the reason you're not seeing cover correctly. - I'd rather prefer using a player whose sound quality I knew to be good (foobar, jriver, etc.) than using HP's player. I seriously doubt HP has invested as much in sound output quality as these other programs, my first guess would be they're just using windows native audio output. - Are you referring to the 02 in the filename, as in 02 - Song Name.flac or in the player where the song title is displayed? If the second, then it's a player option, you'd have to go to the settings of your player. - So, there are 2 ways of showing up the album artwork. It will depend on the players you use. Some players search the folder for an image (usually named folder.jpg or cover.jpg) and use that as the album cover, foobar for instance does this and several other as well. Some other players search for the album artwork inside the flac file itself, as the flac file format has, let's call it, 2 compartments inside its structure, one for the audio data and another one for extra stuff, like an image, for instance. This last option is called embedded cover art. EAC allows you to do that (or you can use other programs such as mp3tag to embed your images into your files in order not to rip them again). I can't remember just now where to activate that option in EAC (I don't use it, since both foobar and jriver search for folder.jpg) and I don't have a PC here with me, but I'll have a look at it tomorrow when I'm home and will let you know. - If foreign characters appear as " ?" it means the player you are using in your phone is not being capable of decoding and displaying them. Have you converted your songs to MP3 before/during transferring them to your phone? If so, with which software? Cheers, |
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Post by copperband on Nov 16, 2013 15:42:42 GMT -5
For you last point I did transfer a MP3 English song which I bought from Amazon to my phone and it works fine. Cover image, name of song all show up perfectly. I will need to keep trying.....
And I will download Foobar.
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Post by copperband on Nov 16, 2013 22:17:50 GMT -5
I used window media player to rip a few Chinese songs to mp3, then transfer to my phone and names of song, singer, and album all show up on my phone without problem. So I guess it is likely that EAC is the reason, may be under somewhere in setup that I need to change?
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Post by sharky on Nov 17, 2013 12:43:16 GMT -5
Ok, so, trying to join all the hints from your posts there are several things that can be happening. Problem 1: Non-english characters. Do you have problems displaying the non-english characters both in the PC (playing a flac file) and in the smartphone (playing the mp3 file)? - If you have a problem in both, then probably your players use a different kind of text encoding than EAC. This is highly unlikely though. Anyway, I'd ask you to play one of your extracted flac files in foobar2000 (which I know can read foreign characters with no problem). If Foobar shows garbled characters or " " or something like that, then we have an encoding problem in EAC or FLAC. If Foobar2000 displays everything correctly then it is an issue with the player you were using before so I'd advise you to change to foobar2000 or jriver. (or musicbee or mediamonkey or any other of the many good players around) - If you have a problem in the smartphone only, then, 1 of 2 things may be happening. Again, your smartphone player might have a different text encoding scheme (again, unlikely), or the non-english character information got lost in the conversion from FLAC to MP3. This is very common because many converters default to english characters only. So my question here would be how did you convert from FLAC to the MP3 you used in your phone? Problem 2: Covers Your smartphone player, contrary to most PC players, will probably need the cover image embedded inside the MP3 file. Most PC players will look for a cover.jpg or folder.jpg image in the same folder as the audio files and thus not needing the cover image embedded in the file itself. When converting from a flac file with embedded images to MP3 you have to be careful to assure the image has been kept in the mp3 file. Either that or re-embed it in the converted file. You can either automatically embed the image in EAC when ripping it, or you can use a program later like mp3tag that will allow you to change tag information and embed images into groups of flac or mp3 files. So, as you can see there are quite a few possible causes In order to simplify your troubleshooting I prepared a few files and I'd like to ask you to try them and give me your results. This way we'll be able to pinpoint the problem a lot faster (I hope). You'll find 8 files inside the archive which link I've sent you in a PM. Try reading the Flac files in your PC and the MP3 files in your smartphone. P1.flac and P1.mp3 should display a song title with a few Portuguese characters, but no cover art. C1.flac and C1.mp3 should display Chinese characters but no cover art. P2.flac and P2.mp3 should display a song title with a few Portuguese characters and cover art. C2.flac and C2.mp3 should display Chinese characters and cover art. The intention is to try the Latin and Chinese alphabets and cover image embedding. These files were extracted with EAC so we'll be testing EAC compatibility as well. Please let me know your results, and if they coincide with the expected ones above. Cheers, |
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" shows up for names of album & song. Does it relate to the ID3tag under EAC/Compression options since it is all blank per your guide?