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Post by novisnick on Nov 15, 2013 18:43:39 GMT -5
UPDATE--XLRs are out to the amp and L unbalanced from the DC-1 runs to the sub in. I just played a couple of CDs from the OPPO. Sub is engaged and it sounded great. So for movies, I'll have to change the sub cable back to the UMC and make 2 changes on the back of the sub but it's worth it. I really do like the DC-1 and want to keep it.  Thanks everyone for your help and comments!!! Or , you can have more sub,,,,,,,, He,,,,,,,,He,,,,,,,,, Nick |
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Post by Emosean on Nov 15, 2013 18:46:01 GMT -5
Has anybody done a side by side comparison between the xsp and dc-1 as a preamp. I have found that I really dont need all the extra functions of my xsp-1, thinking of replacing it with the dc-1. Well, I have. The DC-1 has a better sound to me in my room. A lot more detail, than when connected via the XSP. |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 15, 2013 18:54:51 GMT -5
UPDATE--XLRs are out to the amp and L unbalanced from the DC-1 runs to the sub in. I just played a couple of CDs from the OPPO. Sub is engaged and it sounded great. So for movies, I'll have to change the sub cable back to the UMC and make 2 changes on the back of the sub but it's worth it. I really do like the DC-1 and want to keep it. Thanks everyone for your help and comments!!! Or , you can have more sub,,,,,,,, He,,,,,,,,He,,,,,,,,,Nick
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Post by lsdeep on Nov 15, 2013 20:08:08 GMT -5
the other 'radical' solution would always be to get some good 'full range' speakers for the 2.0 setup, making the sub obsolete for the audio setup all depends on your financial situation for extravagances like that obviously. |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 15, 2013 20:11:17 GMT -5
the other 'radical' solution would always be to get some good 'full range' speakers for the 2.0 setup, making the sub obsolete for the audio setup all depends on your financial situation for extravagances like that obviously. Those axioms he has are full range or nearly full range. They get low and loud Of course a sub is better... |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 15, 2013 20:40:46 GMT -5
the other 'radical' solution would always be to get some good 'full range' speakers for the 2.0 setup, making the sub obsolete for the audio setup all depends on your financial situation for extravagances like that obviously. Those axioms he has are full range or nearly full range. They get low and loud Of course a sub is better... Yep, the 80s get low and loud!!!!! . But a sub adds that extra looooooooow dimension......... |
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Post by lsdeep on Nov 15, 2013 20:47:09 GMT -5
i didn't try to argue that at all, was just a thought (admitted, i was to lazy to read the full thread).
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Post by lsdeep on Nov 15, 2013 20:53:51 GMT -5
in my little room (14x16) an added sub would create a rather full scale of new probs in terms of sound. i am still trying to get it rite for the speakers i have. room is less them ideal, 14x16 and 10 high all concrete and tile floor. an added sub would poss set me back to start trying to make that acoustically acceptable. i miss my old house!!!
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Post by danny01 on Nov 16, 2013 1:20:30 GMT -5
If you have a sub with low pass filter driven by RCA from the DC1, and need to high pass the mains(say you want to free up the woofers in your speakers to focus on midrange clarity, keep your 1L's in Class A, or avoid compounding/cancelling bass) the Marchand Xm46xlr is the perfect solution. Fully balanced too. The $200 savings on the DC1 pays for it and there's your dac/preamp with bass management.
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Post by danny01 on Nov 16, 2013 1:23:52 GMT -5
B money wouldn't the minidsp2x4 fit your needs? Two in four out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 7:45:56 GMT -5
B money wouldn't the minidsp2x4 fit your needs? Two in four out. Sent from my HTC6500LVW using proboards Would it be ok to connect only the L or R rca out from dc1 to the minidsp? Would i still get the correct ammount of bass management from only one half of the stereo signal? |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 16, 2013 10:18:49 GMT -5
B money wouldn't the minidsp2x4 fit your needs? Two in four out. Sent from my HTC6500LVW using proboards Would it be ok to connect only the L or R rca out from dc1 to the minidsp? Would i still get the correct ammount of bass management from only one half of the stereo signal? |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 16, 2013 11:08:54 GMT -5
If I were you, I'd set the sub crossover to about 40-50 Hz. & crank it up a bit. Below that frequency, almost ALL bass is mono anyway, so if you're using only one channel to drive the sub, it doesn't matter. Keep in mind that very, Very few pop recordings have bass below 50 Hz, so you should be OK. Want to test the sub for sure? Que up Lady Gaga's "Dance in the Dark."
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Post by danny01 on Nov 16, 2013 11:22:45 GMT -5
B money wouldn't the minidsp2x4 fit your needs? Two in four out. Sent from my HTC6500LVW using proboards Would it be ok to connect only the L or R rca out from dc1 to the minidsp? Would i still get the correct ammount of bass management from only one half of the stereo signal? Yes. You can raise the output with the PEQ if it is not enough. |
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Post by danny01 on Nov 16, 2013 11:25:51 GMT -5
Or a Y cable from L and R of each preamp summed to each of the inputs.
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Post by cgolf on Nov 17, 2013 20:34:59 GMT -5
Quick update and review. I have everything hooked up now and have some bass coming from the sub. I've got the sub hooked up to the left analog from the DC-1 and it actually sounds pretty good. The balanced XLRs go to the amps. This review isn't long and complex like some. It's short and sweet. I like the sound of the DC-1. Very crisp, detailed and precise. With the addition of some bass, my 2 channel is the best it has ever been and because of that, I will keep the DC-1. I could go on and on but there really isn't anything else to say. It is a pain to go back to movies because I have to make about 4 changes on the sub. We played a movie the other night and I forgot to switch to unbalanced. Watched the entire movie without the front speakers. I knew it sounded thin but never even realized what I had done....  |
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Post by andyadler on Aug 13, 2014 11:41:54 GMT -5
Excuse me picking up this somewhat aged thread, but I'm also considering using a DC-1 as a preamp and want to confirm the wisdom of my proposed subwoofer arrangement. My sub is a Hsu TN1220 (one of the cylinder-type) that uses a beefy 500-watt external amplifier with its own selectable low-pass crossover points, RCA line-level inputs, etc. Since both this amp and my main amp are unbalanced, I'd run the RCAs out of the DC-1 to the input of my main amp, and using an XLR-to-RCA converter cable, connect the balanced output(s) of the DC-1 to my subwoofer amp. The main speakers would have to be run full-range, which I'm not crazy about, but will do for now. Still will likely pony up for an XSP-1 as I want its input flexibility, phono stage, and so on.
Does this sound workable?
Thanks ongoing...A.
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Post by KeithL on Aug 13, 2014 13:16:56 GMT -5
That sounds fine. Also note that you can buy simple little passive inline high-pass filters, and whole passive crossovers, which you could use for your fronts. (The passive filters go for about $30 a pair; they're fixed-frequency, so you pick the frequency you want.) One company that makes them is these guys www.hlabs.com/(and Parts Express sells some of their models as well). Excuse me picking up this somewhat aged thread, but I'm also considering using a DC-1 as a preamp and want to confirm the wisdom of my proposed subwoofer arrangement. My sub is a Hsu TN1220 (one of the cylinder-type) that uses a beefy 500-watt external amplifier with its own selectable low-pass crossover points, RCA line-level inputs, etc. Since both this amp and my main amp are unbalanced, I'd run the RCAs out of the DC-1 to the input of my main amp, and using an XLR-to-RCA converter cable, connect the balanced output(s) of the DC-1 to my subwoofer amp. The main speakers would have to be run full-range, which I'm not crazy about, but will do for now. Still will likely pony up for an XSP-1 as I want its input flexibility, phono stage, and so on. Does this sound workable? Thanks ongoing...A. |
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