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Post by audiobill on Dec 1, 2013 5:41:39 GMT -5
A question for the A/V guys-
I want to play Patricia Barber's "Modern Cool" 24/192 Blu-Ray Pure Audio disc from my Sony S-5100 Blu-Ray player through my DC-1 DAC. 2 channel.
My player has HDMI and coax outputs.
What's the best way to connect these components for highest resolution?
Many thanks!
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Post by drtrey3 on Dec 1, 2013 9:19:07 GMT -5
Hey Bill, nice guitar pal! I would try running it from the coax out. Sadly, I would not be surprised if you cannot do that because I remember some copy protection that only allows the full res data to be sent out from the hdmi. I bet more informed folks will get back to you on this soon!
Trey
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Post by audiobill on Dec 1, 2013 9:42:04 GMT -5
Thanks, it's a Gibson ES-137 Custom I had before I went with ES-175's.
Your response was my question, thanks, and that's why I thought some of the A/V guys here might know the best approach.
Later -
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Post by audiogeek on Dec 1, 2013 11:43:06 GMT -5
A question for the A/V guys- I want to play Patricia Barber's "Modern Cool" 24/192 Blu-Ray Pure Audio disc from my Sony S-5100 Blu-Ray player through my DC-1 DAC. 2 channel. My player has HDMI and coax outputs. What's the best way to connect these components for highest resolution? Many thanks! You want to run coax digital out to your XDA-2, and hope there is a hi- res PCM stereo track to select. Some discs have a multi channel & stereo 24/192 or 96 track as well as a Dolby digital track. |
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Post by audiobill on Dec 1, 2013 11:49:40 GMT -5
A question for the A/V guys- I want to play Patricia Barber's "Modern Cool" 24/192 Blu-Ray Pure Audio disc from my Sony S-5100 Blu-Ray player through my DC-1 DAC. 2 channel. My player has HDMI and coax outputs. What's the best way to connect these components for highest resolution? Many thanks! You want to run coax digital out to your XDA-2, and hope there is a hi- res PCM stereo track to select. Some discs have a multi channel & stereo 24/192 or 96 track as well as a Dolby digital track. Thanks much - ! |
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Post by sharky on Dec 1, 2013 12:57:38 GMT -5
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Post by audiobill on Dec 1, 2013 14:30:28 GMT -5
And toslink passes 24/192?
thanks-0
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Post by sharky on Dec 1, 2013 14:48:34 GMT -5
The toslink cable (provided it's a well built one) has more than enough bandwidth.
Your problem will be in the device itself, unfortunately most devices limit the optical output to 24/96.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Dec 1, 2013 16:25:17 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
Of the two connection methods (HDMI or coax) available on the Sony player, only the coax connection is compatible with the DC-1. On top of that, the Sony player does not support beyond 24/96 stereo LPCM over digital coax according to the manual. You'll need HDMI for that.
You can still play back your Blu-ray audio disc over coax, it will just be down-sampled to 24/96.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Dec 1, 2013 16:29:21 GMT -5
And toslink passes 24/192? thanks-0 It depends on the transmitter and hardware. Some TOSLINK devices do not pass more than 24/96 (e.g. most MacBooks). Other high-end sound cards do support 24/192 over TOSLINK. My PCI computer audio card (HT Omega Claro halo) can output 24/192. |
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Dec 1, 2013 17:16:43 GMT -5
I have that same Blu-ray audio disc by PB, and play it w/output via HDMI to my A/V processor. Its sounds magnificent! But admittedly, I haven't checked the audio input stream to verify the resolution being input to my processor - yet. I think you can only get the full resolution via HDMI, but I may be mistaken about that...  |
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Post by audiobill on Dec 1, 2013 19:58:49 GMT -5
So any high quality HDMI to coax toslink or AES convertors?
Crazy to buy new gear for one disc, but if Blu-Ray Pure Audio is a way to enjoy hi res, then there will surely be more.
This one got the 2013 Grammy award for surround sound (which I choose not to have), and a Stereophile disc of the Monyh in October 2012...........
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Post by audiobill on Dec 2, 2013 5:51:04 GMT -5
So, if I connect the Blu-Ray to my Panasonic Plasma TV's HDMI input, then connect the TV to the DC-1 DAC via Toslink, what rate do you suppose would get to the DAC? I don't have the disc yet, or I'd just try it and see!
Thanks again,
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Post by bootman on Dec 2, 2013 8:57:22 GMT -5
Bottom line is that HD audio is HDMI only.
Any output over any other format would result in the downmixing of the signal.
Blurays are designed to be run to a processor with HDMI inputs not a 2ch only DAC with coax/toslink.
Sorry but that is how the powers that be designed it so that you can't make a digital copy of the HD audio original.
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Post by audiobill on Dec 2, 2013 9:02:42 GMT -5
Thanks! Good answer.
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Dec 2, 2013 9:20:09 GMT -5
Bottom line is that HD audio is HDMI only. Any output over any other format would result in the downmixing of the signal. Blurays are designed to be run to a processor with HDMI inputs not a 2ch only DAC with coax/toslink. Sorry but that is how the powers that be designed it so that you can't make a digital copy of the HD audio original. +1 HDMI = AUDIO HD + VIDEO HD without compressed. |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Dec 2, 2013 9:40:14 GMT -5
What I do is rip videos with DVD Audio Extractor to FLAC files if the DVD or Blu-Ray has HD LPCM. I then play them through normal paths to my DAC.
I just did Rick Wakeman's Six Wives of Henry the VIII this weekend.
There's a bit of a learning curve with DVDAE, but it's worth the effort.
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Post by audiobill on Dec 2, 2013 10:30:18 GMT -5
Good to see you back, Chuck!
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Post by bootman on Dec 2, 2013 10:33:41 GMT -5
What I do is rip videos with DVD Audio Extractor to FLAC files if the DVD or Blu-Ray has HD LPCM. I then play them through normal paths to my DAC. I just did Rick Wakeman's Six Wives of Henry the VIII this weekend. There's a bit of a learning curve with DVDAE, but it's worth the effort. Technically this is legal only on unencrypted disks. Just needed to get this disclaimer out before we get ourselves in trouble.  |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Dec 2, 2013 10:34:20 GMT -5
Good to see you back, Chuck! Not back, just haven't gone yet. Tomorrow! PS on my other post: You may need something like AnyDVD in front of DVDAE to take out the copy protection. Note: I only do this for stuff I own! Not a pirate ar...ar.. |
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