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Post by melm on Jan 5, 2014 12:30:21 GMT -5
Have ordered an ERC-3 which should arrive Thursday. I don't see any remote codes for Harmony Universal Remote for the ERC-3.. will ERC-2 or 1 codes work?
Which would be the best choice?
Hooking it up to the UMC-200. Should I use the analog, or digital outs of the ERC-3 for the best result?
Thanks
Mel
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Jan 5, 2014 12:35:27 GMT -5
Have ordered an ERC-3 which should arrive Thursday. I don't see any remote codes for Harmony Universal Remote for the ERC-3.. will ERC-2 or 1 codes work? Which would be the best choice? Hooking it up to the UMC-200. Should I use the analog, or digital outs of the ERC-3 for the best result? Thanks Mel I believe the ERC-2 codes will work. 98% sure. If you want to take advantage of the ERC-3's internal DAC, which is the same as the phenomenal DC-1, then connect it to your UMC-200 via an analog connection. This is honestly what I would do in order to get the most out of your investment. The internal DACs inside the ERC-3 are superior to those found in the UMC-200. |
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Post by melm on Jan 5, 2014 15:36:40 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew... just the info I needed.
I have an Oppo BDP-103 so the CD playback comparison will be interesting.
Mel
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 15:46:02 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew... just the info I needed. I have an Oppo BDP-103 so the CD playback comparison will be interesting. Mel I'm looking forward to hearing (reading) your thoughts on this comparison, I really like the way my oppo sounds when connected via the analog outputs on it's backside. I've been pondering the need for a separate cd player but keep ending up at the conclusion the oppo is good enough. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jan 5, 2014 15:53:38 GMT -5
Congratulations on the new purchase. I've been digitally porting my ERC-2 through my new DC-1 and all I can say is, WOW, are you in for a treat.....  Andrew is absolutely spot on in his recommendation. Just make sure you set your UMC-200 to "Direct" on that analog input or your UMC-200 will re-digitize the incoming analog signal from the ERC-3. Also, for a fair and true "apples to apples" comparison, you might want to set up your Oppo exactly the same way (analog out to the UMC-200) before making any assessments between the two.....  |
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Post by melm on Jan 5, 2014 16:17:30 GMT -5
Yep. Analog all round. I have double copies of some Telarc CDs, so I can sync them up.
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Post by roadrunner on Jan 5, 2014 18:53:56 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew... just the info I needed. I have an Oppo BDP-103 so the CD playback comparison will be interesting. Mel Mel, you are going to love listening to your CDs using the Emotiva ERC-3. You won't even want to play the CDs on your Oppo 103 once you have compared the sound quality delivered by the ERC-3. I have the ERC-2 and have compared it against the Oppo 103 and the Oppo 105 and found that the ERC-2 easily outperformed both of them. Imaging and soundstage with the ERC-2 was significantly better and the music's attack and decay more closely emulated that of real life performances. Well mastered recordings of the piano, drums, cymbals, and triangles sounded far more realistic on the ERC-2. The ERC-3 should sound even better than the ERC-2 since it uses the Stealth DC-1's DAC circuitry. Using the ERC-3 in place of your Oppo 103 will allow you to move up to a higher plateau for your critical listening sessions. Congrats on your purchase of the ERC-3. |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 5, 2014 19:02:01 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew... just the info I needed. I have an Oppo BDP-103 so the CD playback comparison will be interesting. Mel Mel, you are going to love listening to your CDs using the Emotiva ERC-3. You won't even want to play the CDs on your Oppo 103 once you have compared the sound quality delivered by the ERC-3. I have the ERC-2 and have compared it against the Oppo 103 and the Oppo 105 and found that the ERC-2 easily outperformed both of them. Imaging and soundstage with the ERC-2 was significantly better and the music's attack and decay more closely emulated that of real life performances. Well mastered recordings of the piano, drums, cymbals, and triangles sounded far more realistic on the ERC-2. The ERC-3 should sound even better than the ERC-2 since it uses the Stealth DC-1's DAC circuitry. Using the ERC-3 in place of your Oppo 103 will allow you to move up to a higher plateau for your critical listening sessions. ongrats on your purchase of the ERC-3. Question please, why not just get a DC-1 and have all that and can use it for other sources, USB etc? Smaller form and double the DAC chip sets. Nick |
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Post by melm on Jan 5, 2014 20:16:08 GMT -5
That's a valid point.
I made my purchase based on the high quality and good review of the ERC-2. I'm assuming the 3 will be better.. there's no valid reason not to go the way you suggested. I'll see how the 3 sounds, and can always return it for a DC-1 if that seems the wiser move.
I am very happy with the Oppo, and listen to CD's from the analog outs and direct through the UMC-200. I have Maggies 3.6r speakers and I'm hoping this new gear will be even better. It's the nature of this high-end passion we all share.
mel
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 5, 2014 20:36:02 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew... just the info I needed. I have an Oppo BDP-103 so the CD playback comparison will be interesting. Mel Mel, you are going to love listening to your CDs using the Emotiva ERC-3. You won't even want to play the CDs on your Oppo 103 once you have compared the sound quality delivered by the ERC-3. I have the ERC-2 and have compared it against the Oppo 103 and the Oppo 105 and found that the ERC-2 easily outperformed both of them. Imaging and soundstage with the ERC-2 was significantly better and the music's attack and decay more closely emulated that of real life performances. Well mastered recordings of the piano, drums, cymbals, and triangles sounded far more realistic on the ERC-2. The ERC-3 should sound even better than the ERC-2 since it uses the Stealth DC-1's DAC circuitry. Using the ERC-3 in place of your Oppo 103 will allow you to move up to a higher plateau for your critical listening sessions. Congrats on your purchase of the ERC-3. Couldn't agree more, my ERC-3 sounds much better than a 103. In fact I think it sounds better than a 105 for stereo listening. My ears, my room my speakers of course. Also agree, use the DAC in the ERC-3 so it's analogue connection most definitely. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 5, 2014 21:35:02 GMT -5
Smaller form and double the DAC chip sets. Nick Plenty of reasons for me; A DC-1 doesn't match the look of the rest of my Emotive gear. A DC-1 costs $699 (non sale price) and an ERC-3 costs $499 (non sale price). A DC-1 doesn't have the superior transport, disparate power supplies or "a reinforced steel chassis with additional mass loading to minimize interference". Most of all a DC-1 doesn't have a weapons grade remote like an ERC-3. If there was an XDA-3 (DC-1 DAC + XDA-2 packaging) for say $399 then I might have made a difference decision. But even then I think the ERC-3 sound comes not just from the DAC, it's a package deal. Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 5, 2014 21:50:26 GMT -5
Ok, size, ok
Oppo is a nice transport, I was speaking to those that have one
Sale price is on tillidnight
Weapons grade DC-1 has it.
I am absolutely sure that if I didn't own the Oppo 103 I would have purchased an ERC-3 by now on sale.
Nick
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Post by yeeeha17 on Jan 5, 2014 21:51:44 GMT -5
Having an ERC-3 in the chain with XSP-1 and with any of the fully balance amps will keep your system fully differential balanced. Having the DC-1 will cut the chain of a fully balanced system by using the digital ports of the DC-1 IMHO. If you have fully balanced differential amps and preamp I would just get the ERC-3 to keep the chain balanced.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 5, 2014 22:13:22 GMT -5
Having an ERC-3 in the chain with XSP-1 and with any of the fully balance amps will keep your system fully differential balanced. Having the DC-1 will cut the chain of a fully balanced system by using the digital ports of the DC-1 IMHO. If you have fully balanced differential amps and preamp I would just get the ERC-3 to keep the chain balanced. I believe that you have ,,,,,check and Mate! good show! Nick edit: wouldn't analog out of Oppo to analog in on DC-1 keep the chain alive? still learning as well ya'll |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 6, 2014 0:12:37 GMT -5
Balanced/full differential only applies to analogue signals, so the digital connection (even if it is an RCA cable) between the transport and the DC-1 would be irrelevant in the context of comparing RCA versus XLR.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 6, 2014 0:15:36 GMT -5
I am absolutely sure that if I didn't own the Oppo 103 I would have purchased an ERC-3 by now on sale. Nick I could see your point if you had a 105, but not a 103. I have a 103 shortly AND the ERC-3 that I already have, in lieu of getting a 105. Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 6, 2014 0:18:03 GMT -5
Balanced/full differential only applies to analogue signals, so the digital connection (even if it is an RCA cable) between the transport and the DC-1 would be irrelevant in the context of comparing RCA versus XLR. Cheers Gary I guess I'm slow or just thick headed, my Oppo 103 has analog out that goes to DC-1 analog in, then XLR out to XSP-1 to my amps. So I gather this is not full bal. diff.? Is that correct? I'm still learning, let me know please. Nick |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 6, 2014 0:29:33 GMT -5
Balanced/full differential only applies to analogue signals, so the digital connection (even if it is an RCA cable) between the transport and the DC-1 would be irrelevant in the context of comparing RCA versus XLR. I guess I'm slow or just thick headed, my Oppo 103 has analog out that goes to DC-1 analog in, then XLR out to XSP-1 to my amps. So I gather this is not full bal. diff.? Is that correct? I'm still learning, let me know please. Nick Hi Nick with that connection method you are using the DAC in the 103 not the DAC in the DC-1. Which is probably more important sound quality wise than it also not being balanced/differential. Personally I'd use a digital connection (toslink or RCA coax) between the 103 and the DC-1. That'll use the superior DAC in the DC-1 plus make it balanced/differential for all analogue signals. Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 6, 2014 1:06:16 GMT -5
OK, I must have been thinking that way back when I got it and hooked it up. Da! Nick,,,,,after looking at the back of my gear, Which is a task, I see that I do in fact have it Oppo > coax > DC-1 > XSP-1 > XPR-1
My mistake,,,,,again,,,,,Learning at my age,,,,,,PRICELESS!
Thanks so much Gary,
Do I have it set up right now? Or do I need to find some $$$$$ to have an optimal sound from a CD player?
Nick : )
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 6, 2014 5:26:00 GMT -5
OK, I must have been thinking that way back when I got it and hooked it up. Da! Nick,,,,,after looking at the back of my gear, Which is a task, I see that I do in fact have it Oppo > coax > DC-1 > XSP-1 > XPR-1 My mistake,,,,,again,,,,,Learning at my age,,,,,,PRICELESS! Thanks so much Gary, Do I have it set up right now? Or do I need to find some $$$$$ to have an optimal sound from a CD player? Nick : ) I think you have it nailed. Cheers Gary |
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