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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:03:28 GMT -5
Could it be that your ripping was bad? IE the DAE process?
I'd get a copy of DBpowerAMP to do your ripping and encoding!!!
Also I'd use FLAC.
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 9, 2014 13:08:46 GMT -5
If the rip was bad to start with, then the conversion couldn't have helped. The distortion would have been inherent in the AIFF data file.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:09:57 GMT -5
Did you rip the music with iTunes? If so that's your problem right there. I would never use a DAE that doesn't do "AccurateRip". GET THIS APPLICATION www.dbpoweramp.com/
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 9, 2014 13:11:25 GMT -5
Yeah, ALL my music was originally ripped via iTunes. With more than 2TB, I DON'T plan to re-rip unless I MUST. How's the JRiver built-in ripper?
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Post by mshump on Feb 9, 2014 13:15:06 GMT -5
Boom, I rip all my music using Jriver to FLAC, I have had no issues. It does do a secure rip. I also converted all my Itunes to FLAC in Jriver with no issues. I use no external ripping or converting programs.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:15:33 GMT -5
You know me bookzilla and how strong my opinions are...
Ripping with anything other than DBpowerAMP is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME.
Do you have a tower PC with more than two 51/4" drive bays?
When I rip with DBpowerAMP I do batch ripping with FOUR DISCS AT ONCE into two codecs at once. FLAC and MP3 alt preset standard.
The big question is, did you rip with NON DESTRUCTIVE replay meta gain on a track and album level?
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:25:01 GMT -5
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 9, 2014 13:26:03 GMT -5
I have no clue. For all the iTunes rips, I took the defaults & specified AIFF format (no options available - iTunes pre-selects all options). I will download & try DBpoweramp & check it out. I have only a laptop PC with its internal drive. If I plan to do extensive ripping, I'll buy an external USB drive to reduce wear on the internal.
I'm browsing on the iMac for now; I'll need to go to the laptop to download/install anything.
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Post by garbulky on Feb 9, 2014 13:27:58 GMT -5
Just because one lossless file is somehow coming out distorted via AIFF playback vs wav doesn't necessarily mean that the entire library is messed up. Maybe it's just that file?
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:29:24 GMT -5
You should build a cheap PC to be used as NAS and to rip/encode and perhaps even a PVR server for an XBMC front end.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 13:32:28 GMT -5
I have no clue. For all the iTunes rips, I took the defaults & specified AIFF format (no options available - iTunes pre-selects all options). I will download & try DBpoweramp & check it out. I have only a laptop PC with its internal drive. If I plan to do extensive ripping, I'll buy an external USB drive to reduce wear on the internal. I'm browsing on the iMac for now; I'll need to go to the laptop to download/install anything. I have a multi seat commercial license. If you let me remote into that PC I'll install a seat so you can try it but more importantly I'll set it up PROPERLY.
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Post by vinylfreak on Feb 9, 2014 13:48:42 GMT -5
You know me bookzilla and how strong my opinions are... Ripping with anything other than DBpowerAMP is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME. Do you have a tower PC with more than two 51/4" drive bays? When I rip with DBpowerAMP I do batch ripping with FOUR DISCS AT ONCE into two codecs at once. FLAC and MP3 alt preset standard. The big question is, did you rip with NON DESTRUCTIVE replay meta gain on a track and album level? I'm just getting back into using DBpowerAMP for my ripping.
Would you mind sharing your settings for CD to Flac ripping??
It would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 14:24:27 GMT -5
There is little to no ripping options for the FLAC encoder and you should just use the defaults. As for the tagging and ripping file naming conventions, there is a plethora of options and way you can set it up most of which is user specific IE preference.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 9, 2014 14:25:00 GMT -5
You should though be using the "multi encoder" and be ripping to more than one file type at a time. I rip my music into FLAC and MP3 and I stuff them in different parent dirs.
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Post by DYohn on Feb 9, 2014 15:05:21 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing wring with using iTunes to rip your CDs, and also no inherent superiority to FLAC over Apple lossless, other than anti-Apple bias.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Feb 9, 2014 15:17:11 GMT -5
I tested 1000 random files ripped with iTunes-Apple Lossless for "bit perfectness" with dbPowerAmp's standalone utility. All were fine except one file which was very old.
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 9, 2014 15:25:15 GMT -5
None of this explains why converting from AIFF to WAV "fixed" the bad (?) file... Since I don't have distortion on the majority of my music, I'm assuming there is no endemic problem with iTunes ripping OR AIFF format. There is, however, a difference between the sound of that file .aif and .wav...
I'm going through battling damned PC bloatware trying to get team viewer & Skype installed. Every time I think I've got the stuff working, some stupid window pops up with irrelevant messages!
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Post by DYohn on Feb 9, 2014 15:27:01 GMT -5
None of this explains why converting from AIFF to WAV "fixed" the bad (?) file... Since I don't have distortion on the majority of my music, I'm assuming there is no endemic problem with iTunes ripping OR AIFF format. There is, however, a difference between the sound of that file .aif and .wav... Could be anything, who knows? But as you know, it would be a mistake to make any sweeping generalizations based on a single sample.
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 9, 2014 15:47:07 GMT -5
...But as you know, it would be a mistake to make any sweeping generalizations based on a single sample. Agreed. I'm just trying to imagine what could have caused the change...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 18:23:52 GMT -5
Ohhhh - that's a biggie, kinda like asking for a Minority Report interface coupled with a Remote Viewing Telekinetic Voice Activating Glossia Enabled discombobulator - quite hard to find IMHO. Have tried yelling at it, threatening it maybe? If google would license out their excellent voice recognition tool used on the google app and youtube app (via cloud) you would have a pretty solid app if you could mix it with something like j-river. I agree 100% - my point of the above was just exactly that; you cannot find an app like that outside of Google's intention as it stands now. Currently I use the Google voice search on my HTC all the time, it's brilliant - will also allow me to compose a text or email from my phone. So yes, the question is, why the hell don't they license it out further?
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