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Post by cheglie on Mar 7, 2014 1:11:30 GMT -5
CAMBRIDGE AUDIO AZUR 650R A/V RECEIVER
This receiver had such great reviews. It can be purchased for a very reasonable price. Only thoughts are no room correction features and HDMI is 1.3c. Is the room correction such as Audessey really necessary? And is the lack of HDMI 1.4 a huge drawback?
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Post by novisnick on Mar 7, 2014 1:20:12 GMT -5
CAMBRIDGE AUDIO AZUR 650R A/V RECEIVER This receiver had such great reviews. It can be purchased for a very reasonable price. Only thoughts are no room correction features and HDMI is 1.3c. Is the room correction such as Audessey really necessary? And is the lack of HDMI 1.4 a huge drawback? 100 watts in 7 channels, all channels driven! Hi, and glad to have you here! Welcome to the Zoo. I can't take it,,,,I've heard 5 times tonight that an AVR had XXX PC all driven! Look really hard at the specs,,,,,99% of the time it's 2 ch driven. I promise, I'm not looking for trouble or anything, Lord knows I'm a fun loving guy! BUT they just can not drive all channels,5 or 7 , or whatever for 1 or 2 thousand dollars. Period! ill hate myself in the morning, but I'm sorry or really misled?  ! Nah! I don't think misled Please forgive me and stay around here and learn a lot , as I am doing,,,,,,, Then again,,,,,,I,may be full of. Sh,, Peace my friends, Nick |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 7, 2014 1:28:24 GMT -5
So far I stand corrected,,,,,,I must be full of it,,,, Cambridge does make quality products but I still haven't seen all of there specs or price.
I'm willing to learn,,,, I've been to another forum tonight and it drove me over the edge,,,,,so sorry
Nick
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Post by cheglie on Mar 7, 2014 1:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by deltadube on Mar 7, 2014 1:39:44 GMT -5
So far I stand corrected,,,,,,I must be full of it,,,, Cambridge does make quality products but I still haven't seen all of there specs or price. I'm willing to learn,,,, I've been to another forum tonight and it drove me over the edge,,,,,so sorry Nick !! wow another forum Nick, thats like having a mistress..!!!!!! he he he |
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Post by rogersch on Mar 7, 2014 1:49:02 GMT -5
Hi Cheglie, If the Azur is a good receiver for you depends on your needs. Check de HDMI wiki for the display modes not supported by 1.3c and are supported by newer versions. So in short 1.3c doesn't support UHD (or 4K) and no 3D signals. If you don't need that now or in the near future, than from that perspective it is okay. Regarding Room Correction. First of all, if possible!, you should try to apply physical room corrections, like bass traps etc. And only then apply electronic room correction but, imho, use only a real good room correction otherwise don't use it all. Most of the Audessy room correction systems I heard, sounded better when the Audessy was switched of. So a good AVR without electronic room correction still can sound very good. If you would like to buy AVR with a good room correction system, and also reasonably priced, then I would suggest an Anthem AVR310,510 or 710. Or maybe there is somewhere a clearance sale of the previous model serie (300, 500 or 700). |
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Post by deltadube on Mar 7, 2014 1:55:58 GMT -5
Hi Cheglie, If the Azur is a good receiver for you depends on your needs. Check de HDMI wiki for the display modes not supported by 1.3c and are supported by newer versions. So in short 1.3c doesn't support UHD (or 4K) and no 3D signals. If you don't need that now or in the near future, than from that perspective it is okay. Regarding Room Correction. First of all, if possible!, you should try to apply physical room corrections, like bass traps etc. And only then apply electronic room correction but, imho, use only a real good room correction otherwise don't use it all. Most of the Audessy room correction systems I heard, sounded better when the Audessy was switched of. So a good AVR without electronic room correction still can sound very good. If you would like to buy AVR with a good room correction system, and also reasonably priced, then I would suggest an Anthem AVR310,510 or 710. Or maybe there is somewhere a clearance sale of the previous model serie (300, 500 or 700). how about a new xmc 1 .. good room correction?? |
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 7, 2014 2:11:49 GMT -5
How important is "room correction"?
Well it depends on how good or bad your room is. I have experienced very little improvement from the ones I have used so far, my room is pretty good. I find the best place to start answering the question is to get a description of the room, it's dimensions, floor coverings and what's in it. Then I m sure the gurus on here will have lots of input to share.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by garbulky on Mar 7, 2014 2:41:35 GMT -5
I find the quality of the sound and the DAC to be a pretty important part of the equation. And I like to place things like actual sound quality over rooom correction.
I have little experience with room correction so I won't give my opinion on it. I say that in case you think sound quality comes from room correction and that's the only differentiator. It's not. If the sound qualtiy isn't great to begin with then room correction cannot add more detail to the poor sound it is given if that makes any sense.
I suggest you go for separates now so that you don't continuously spend money on the amp section of the AVR everytime you upgrade. For instance if you got a UMC-200 and a XPA-5, the XPA-5 would easily beat most recievers on the market and the nwhen the reciever (UMC-200) needs an upgrade you can upgrade that without constantly buying much weaker amp sections when you buy an AVr.
Having said that, I really do like Cambridge Audio and Henry Kloss. He made some nice stuff.
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Post by mgbpuff on Mar 7, 2014 6:05:03 GMT -5
garbulky - You are confusing Cambridge Soundworks (Kloss founded) with Cambridge Audio (an English company).
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Post by kse on Mar 7, 2014 7:45:14 GMT -5
Skip that relic and head over to Crutchfield. Grab a Yamaha Aventage 1020 for less money and call it a day. It's 10x the receiver than that CA unit.
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Post by cheglie on Mar 7, 2014 13:06:13 GMT -5
Or.....maybe the new Fusion 8100?
Speculation on how it is going to compare sq to the units we have been listing here? Or Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Cambridge?
Limited space, etc. has been a road-block for me. My shelf gives me 6 1/4 inches of clearance. I love my little Marantz NR1603, but only pre-outs for the mains is really a limiting factor, especially since it is powered by 50watts internally which is not enough for my second zone Infinity IL50's. It is fine for my main room with the UPA-200 helping out.
Looking forward to hear from people who buy the Fusion and give feedback. I'll wait for the first round to end before making a decision.
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Post by bootman on Mar 7, 2014 13:21:53 GMT -5
Well the Fusion (like the UMC-200) has PEQs which if you have the tools (REW and calibrated mike) can do a better job than most room corrections available.
But as said previously, if it meets your current and future needs, go for it.
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Post by cheglie on Mar 7, 2014 14:31:02 GMT -5
Well the Fusion (like the UMC-200) has PEQs which if you have the tools (REW and calibrated mike) can do a better job than most room corrections available. But as said previously, if it meets your current and future needs, go for it. O.K. I guess I don't know what PEQs and REW stand for? My Auddessey is dumbie proof. The only other tool I use besides the calibrated mic is my SPL meter. |
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Post by bootman on Mar 7, 2014 15:35:42 GMT -5
Well the Fusion (like the UMC-200) has PEQs which if you have the tools (REW and calibrated mike) can do a better job than most room corrections available. But as said previously, if it meets your current and future needs, go for it. O.K. I guess I don't know what PEQs and REW stand for? My Auddessey is dumbie proof. The only other tool I use besides the calibrated mic is my SPL meter. well you have some homework to do. Start here: www.minidsp.com/applications/dsp-basics/peq-vs-graphic-eqthen here: www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/68013-emotiva-umc-200-rew.htmlNothing automatic about it so it does involve some sweat equity but the results can be worth it. |
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Post by garbulky on Mar 7, 2014 16:47:12 GMT -5
garbulky - You are confusing Cambridge Soundworks (Kloss founded) with Cambridge Audio (an English company). What is this madness? Arrrgghh!! You're right!   OMG Cambridge soundworks has taken a dive for the worse looking at the website. Only their cheapest stuff is now on display!  |
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Mar 7, 2014 17:45:20 GMT -5
CAMBRIDGE AUDIO AZUR 650R A/V RECEIVER This receiver had such great reviews. It can be purchased for a very reasonable price. Only thoughts are no room correction features and HDMI is 1.3c. Is the room correction such as Audessey really necessary? -No! But is an GREAT IMPROVEMENT in quality and accuracy. And is the lack of HDMI 1.4 a huge drawback? -Just if you need 3D support for BD. ... ifications en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI_1.4#Version_1.4 |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 7, 2014 17:58:44 GMT -5
I say,,,," Bring It, or Stay Home "
Peace,
Nick
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Post by novisnick on Mar 7, 2014 18:02:37 GMT -5
So far I stand corrected,,,,,,I must be full of it,,,, Cambridge does make quality products but I still haven't seen all of there specs or price. I'm willing to learn,,,, I've been to another forum tonight and it drove me over the edge,,,,,so sorry Nick !! wow another forum Nick, thats like having a mistress..!!!!!! he he he Yeh, she's ugly and she sure can't cook! |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 7, 2014 18:02:49 GMT -5
I say,,,," Bring It, or Stay Home "
Peace,
Nick
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! Nah! I don't think misled
